Madeleine McCann- new suspect thread 2

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@PurplePansy05.. sorry to hear this. You were so lucky and wise to get away. Someone on the 1st thread said the only good thing to come out of this is that it has taught parents to NEVER leave their kids alone. I know you can't keep them locked away forever and it's my own fear that i need to get a handle on as i don't want to make mine too terrified to go anywhere. But they also need to understand the dangers out there

@BooseysMom Thank you. It's a difficult balancing act. I am not sure what I'll be like with my children, I'll definitely tell them what happened and talk to them very openly about their feelings so they can tune into them. Unfortunately it's one of those things that are outside our control, we can't always fully protect our children or ourselves.

Purple, you need a decent police force to report the information too.

I've certainly lost all faith in Portuguese police years ago and I'd never ever go there.

I agree at suitable ages and in child appropriate way children absolutely need to be aware the world isn't all good kind sweet people..
Isn't this what hansel and gretal teaches them... Snow White, trust trust trust...

Oprah Winfrey had amazing show on the trust your instinct.
Some linked to it on here years ago, sorry if its been mentioned again?
Can't remember the name of the actual book but I'm sure someone will know it.

I think a big crux was.... I've said no, and this person isn't taking no for an answer.

Swift, I reported every single detail of what happened to me and drew a good portrait of the man who attacked me and they still never found him. Never felt our local police were truly invested in trying to resolve it anyway. Case closed.

There are no perfect police forces anywhere. But we can only look after our iwn security as much as we can and hope they do their job if needed.

Thank you MN for amending the title. It's important that we spell her name correctly.

I read the beginning of the first thread but had to stop as I was finding it upsetting and infuriating in equal measures. Fortunately blaming the parents seems to have died down a bit. We were in Luz that week (arrived the following morning) for our first family holiday with 9m old DS so we have very mixed memories of that holiday. I dug out my holiday photos today on the remote chance that one of the vehicles could be in the background (they weren’t).

We spent the week hoping that she’d wandered off herself and would be found or that someone desperate for a child had taken her but would come to their senses and give themselves up. By the time we left it was obvious that was not the case and it was heartbreaking leaving as a family knowing that the McCanns would be leaving without MM.

Despite the tragic circumstances, Luz itself was actually a lovely place and had we been there any other time, it’s somewhere I could have gone back to.

Tattie that's a really small good deed you did. I hope other people do the same.

@Henlie

You all seem very clued up with regards to interviews etc in the case of Madeleine. What are the best sources to read to avoid outright conspiracy theories?

I’d suggest taking a look at the Peter Hyatt Statement Analysis...... It’s very interesting and may change how you look at the case.

That's certainly not an unbiased site, is it?

@ Swiftsseason is the book you mentioned The Gift of Fear by Gavin de Becker? Everyone should read it.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8395321/Witness-saw-Madeline-McCann-German-owned-VW-van-unidentified-man-weeks-vanished.html

This reported sighting is interesting, though I'm not sure how credible it is. A witness thought they saw Madeleine getting into a Volkswagon van with a man outside a restaurant. On the other hand, missing child cases do usually result in dozens or hundreds of mistaken sightings. I'm also not convinced that the perpetrator would have been taking Madeleine out in public with the case now widely known (the sighting was on 28th May 2007).

On the other hand, missing child cases do usually result in dozens or hundreds of mistaken sightings.
Especially when there is a reward involved people tend to come crawling out of the woodwork to “claim” they’d seen this or that.

And tbh an alleged sighting of a child getting into a car three weeks later sounds like a chancer to me.

Besides which, it sounds as if the police are looking for people to come forward who may have actually known something. Sightings and public witnesses have already been appealed for on multiple occasions. It’s unlikely a member of the public would remember something now if they haven’t done on the past x amount of occasions they’ve been given the opportunity to do so.

Also I imagine many of the reports are probably from people who came forward with sightings on the numerous previous occasions these were asked for so duplicates and not relevant.

If you read the report the sighting was reported at the time. It's just the newspaper have 'unearthed' it now.

I usually wouldn’t believe a witness sighting like that for such a high profile case. However, it’s from 2007 and the witness mentions a VW camper van, which wouldn’t have been public knowledge at the time.

It seems that the British police asked the Spanish police to check the cctv of the restaurant, but they didn’t and nothing more came of this. The police incompetence in this case is heart breaking.

It doesn't say the Spanish authorities didn't check it, it's unknown. The Daily Mail has dug out something from years ago to keep the story going most likely.

However, the rest of the article is very unsettling... CB visiting a nearby house full of children from Germany on a "rehabilitation programme"? I'm sorry, but wtf?

I really hope it’s not true. I
Would far rather she hasn’t gone through days and weeks without her parents

I find it hard to believe that Christian B would abduct a child, travel to Spain in his camper van and take her out for dinner to an exclusive restaurant. What did he do, sit there reading the kids menu to her? I am finding the press coverage quite distasteful, the constant what if scenarios and missing children that must be linked just because they look like Madeleine. If this investigation comes to nothing due to lack of evidence, then he will be forever known as the culprit (he might well be guilty, we don't know) and as far as the public are concerned, case closed.

My heart aches for Inga the little girl in Germany, and Rene Hasse - both of whom I had never heard of before, but it seems as if the whole world has heard of Madeleine.

The rest of that article is unnerving, the part where the neighbours thought he was a private investigator as he tracked down a young teenage runaway who then just so happened to be pregnant when she returned!? I hope it's not his, but sounds bizarre coincidence.

That's not Madeleine's fault tho tbf. It is interesting to consider why that was though, it was on every news broadcast that whole summer and into the autumn.. certainly here in Ireland. I feel there's a small window now, I hope the next week or so shows up something definite for her poor family.

The teenagers rehabilitation programme sounds dodgy as fuck. Hiding in plain sight.

Clement Freud thing isn’t that weird. I’m a similar age to mcCann’s and he was a known public figure to those of my generation, ex-MP who still turned up on the TV and radio. Son was also big in PR. So they probably thought it was worth it for the possible connections. Sex abuse thing has only come out in the last 5 years.

Purple it wasn't only that there was a '' home '' set up for vulnerable and troubled girls, apparently after it was stopped funding, needles, syringes, spoons and drugs were found!!

He was a drug dealer.

Looking at Britons care homes targeted by paedophiles, and charities abroad also targeted.. What can be done to protect these children!!

Re the vw sighting I don't think he would have taken her to dinner but he knew people in restaurants and bars, he may have knew someone or he may have even used her to steal something.

Tbh I think this thread is becoming as distasteful as the press speculation.

We’ve moved from people talking about the parents and their perceived involvement, to lurid speculation on what he might have been involved in and done, when none of this has actually been suggested by the authorities.

Regardless of whatever else this man is guilty of, he hasn’t been charged with this crime, or any others with regard to missing children.

But somehow we’ve gone from his being a suspect in one case to trying to link him to numerous abductions over the past twenty years or so,.

Regardless of what we may think of him (and there is no disputing that he’s a vile criminal anyway,) he is still innocent until proven guilty. And if he’s guilty, this level of speculation could well mean he will never have a fair trial and may get off anyway.

The infuriating bit from that Mail article:

He was eligible for release in August 2018, but the German authorities were desperate for him to remain behind bars for drug trafficking. Under extradition law, Portugal had to give its consent and it is claimed the Portuguese authorities did not do so in time – meaning Brueckner was released.

If true that's another fail for the Portugese authorities.