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Madeleine McCann- new suspect thread 2

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Smallsteps88 · 05/06/2020 23:37

New thread

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covetingthepreciousthings · 05/06/2020 23:41

Thanks for the new thread OP

BeyondDreamsOfBeyondFourWalls · 05/06/2020 23:41

Re the car possibly having another owner - imagine owning a car for 13 years and then the police claiming it as evidence in something like this, out of the blue.

Smallsteps88 · 05/06/2020 23:45

@covetingthepreciousthings

Thanks for the new thread OP
No problem.
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BoreOfWhabylon · 05/06/2020 23:46

Thanks Smallsteps

Smallsteps88 · 05/06/2020 23:50

WRT car reg plates. My dad is a car enthusiast and has owned possibly over a hundred cars over the years. He tries to get as much of the history on his cars as possible and his recall is amazing. If he had owned the jag in question at any point he’d be able to tell you where he bought it, when, what the seller told him about it, who the seller was, any previous owners he knew of, anything he found in the glove box, any marks in the paintwork etc. He’d definitely remember the number plate.

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Jourdain11 · 06/06/2020 00:00

I don't want to derail the thread again, but I was thinking a little more about what some posters have been saying about leaving the children by themselves, and it occurred to me that it is really hard to judge without actually knowing the environment, the distances, etc. involved.

I can't comment on British customs then, but in the 90s, my parents and my siblings and I would go to a holiday cottage in Brittany for a few weeks - it was in a block of similar cottages with a communal outside area and every evening we would gather there to have our evening meal and the kids would then play in the surroundings until it got dark or so. At that point we'd be packed off to bed and the adults would stay outside socialising.

It seems a similar situation - maybe slightly older children in general, maybe different because we did know exactly where our parents were if we needed them and only had to come downstairs to the courtyard area. But it's hard to say that the Ocean Club wasn't maybe similar without having been there.

There were also British families who stayed at the cottages but I don't remember if they did the same. I only remember that we used to play with the English kids a lot and it involved a lot of sign language! I used to ask them questions in French and then say "yes? no?" And they would say "yes" and we would carry on 😂

I would like to go back there with my own kids now and see if it is still the same. But I do think there's a big difference between the freedom I had growing up (in the 90s/early 00s) and the freedom my kids have today. It may be partly location (London) though. At my DCs primary they are not allowed to walk themselves to school until Y5 but I'm sure that I walked myself to school far younger than that, albeit usually in a group with other children.

I just think it is tricky, because things do/have change/d, but it is hard to know how much and whether your memory is playing games with you.

Smallsteps88 · 06/06/2020 00:10

I think we just need to leave the “would you have left them” question alone. It’s never going to be an answer we all agree on and it’s not what the last or this thread is about.

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Jourdain11 · 06/06/2020 00:13

That's fair enough, yeah - I was just thinking that I don't think anyone really can know, without being familiar with the surroundings.

I'm still really confused by the police releasing that number. It seems such an odd thing to do. And obviously people were going to ring it Hmm

CheerfuIPotato · 06/06/2020 00:15

Oh just give it a rest with the “would you have left them” tedium 🙄

TracyBeakerSoYeah · 06/06/2020 00:21

Thanks Small & your Dad sounds amazing with his recall. Though my DH is the same with his cars all the way back to his first one in 1988.

Smallsteps88 · 06/06/2020 00:22

your Dad sounds amazing with his recall.

It’s handy at times but tiresome at others. Have you ever seen Derry girls? He’s like uncle Colm Grin

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Jourdain11 · 06/06/2020 00:28

I wasn't actually saying "would you have left them" tedium. I was saying that none of us can know!

TracyBeakerSoYeah · 06/06/2020 00:32

No I haven't seen Derry Girls yet but it's on my list to watch Small
I can imagine that however much you love your Dad there must be times you want to shove his recall up where the sun don't shine Smile bit like my lovely but annoying but wonderful Dad.

Smallsteps88 · 06/06/2020 00:34

@TracyBeakerSoYeah

No I haven't seen Derry Girls yet but it's on my list to watch Small I can imagine that however much you love your Dad there must be times you want to shove his recall up where the sun don't shine Smile bit like my lovely but annoying but wonderful Dad.
Yep!
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Happymum12345 · 06/06/2020 00:36

Of course they should never have left their children, but no one knows that more than Madeleine’s parents. Be kind. I can’t Imagine how they must feel.

TracyBeakerSoYeah · 06/06/2020 00:38

Jourdain I get what you were on about. It's just that there were were some pedantic braying posters on the last thread who kept banging on about how stupid & reckless they thought the McCanns had been.
All I can reiterate is what's done is done & the past is what it is.
Let's just hope & pray that Kate & Gerry find some answers ;how ever awful they maybe) & yes I damn well know it's stupid & ain't gonna happen but I still pray for a miracle.

SisterAgatha · 06/06/2020 00:41

We haven’t seen the number plate of the jag because the photo in the paper is just a stock photo of a jag. It says in the source at the bottom of the photo.

BeatrixPottersAlterEgo · 06/06/2020 00:53

Shocked to read about the disappearance of Joana, only 11km away and a few years bed. How was that not picked up on when MM went missing? The next town to me is about that distance and if two little girls went missing within five years it would certainly be noted

Patsnpons · 06/06/2020 01:25

I find it shocking that I have not heard of these poor other children going missing, tragic.

IdblowJonSnow · 06/06/2020 01:45

Desperate for at least some of these families to get some answers after all this time. Surely surely this time they will find some evidence.

MiniMum97 · 06/06/2020 02:35

Just read the sun article linked to on the other thread. Given me chills. How many times has your child run ahead to disappear out of sight for a few seconds...,

He ran ahead during a family walk on the beach to go in the sea. After losing sight of him they never saw him again and were left with just his clothes lying on the beach.

Just been reading the recent articles and it's amazing what is coming it if the woodwork that the police forces involved have obviously been working on for some time. They are potentially looking to solve a number of unsolved child abductions. Hopefully many families will gain closure from this.

I can't quite believe it's looking so positive that they might actually be able to solve the MM case. I didn't think it would ever happen.

So awful though to think that it's looking like this predator has been travelling around stealing and abusing and murdering children. For years.

Plus he has raped adults as well as harmed children, and the devastation his actions have led to; The McCanns, the family whose daughter was abducted a few miles away where the mum and brother went through the trauma of being wrongly accused and convicted of the crime, she was beaten by the police and spent a long time in prison. Many many others. So much heartache and trauma and pain.

Frownette · 06/06/2020 02:45

Hello to @TracyBeakerSoYeah haven't seen you in a while Smile

I was told there were some new developments with MM I'll have a read

TracyBeakerSoYeah · 06/06/2020 03:25

Hi @Frownette you guys still putting the world to rights in your moated chateau & excuse for me meandering off.

Anyway back to the thread. Do you know what might be the most shocking thing to come out of all this? It's the possibility that this man or whoever it is involved in these crimes could have been apprehended before, maybe even before Madeleine disappeared.
Bit like how Peter Sutcliffe was stopped by the police several times during the hunt for the Yorkshire Ripper.

IHateCoronavirus · 06/06/2020 07:04

Just catching up with the new thread. So am I right on thinking there may be 5 missing children linked to this man?

IHateCoronavirus · 06/06/2020 07:06

The worrying thing is he might be out of jail again quite soon. Why would a defence team work with someone like this? I can’t get my head around that.

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