Would you vote Labour if you earned over £80,000?

[NoMansGE]

When doing more research on labours tax policies DH and I noticed that this starts from salaries of £80,000. This would effect our household as that is DHs salary. We both agree with their campaign for 'no more billionaires'.. but we aren't billionaires. We are a normal family who live a comfortable but far from luxury lifestyle. We're both torn how to vote, as it would usually be labour.

So you're not bothered by their institutional antisemitism, massive corruption, support of Venezuelan, Syrian and Bolivian dictators, and denial of Russia's involvement in the Salisbury poisoning, but you are worried that you might have to pay a bit more tax?

I'm not a Labour voter, nor an 80k earner, but I have never at any point had any problem with my taxes increasing with my wage.

I earn £52k, DH on similar, so pay a fair whack of our salaries in tax. But guess what - we get services in return! Society functions! And every single time my salary has increased - the amount of money in my take home pay has increased too. I don't really trouble myself about the amount.

I'd love education to be better funded, so there were fewer ignorant idiots in the world. Doesn't that sound better?

I care about how my money is spent, and if I can trust the people spending it.

We read all the policies and make our decision based on that. I'm no expert in any party. Labours policies sound good, slightly too good to be true and I wonder how much of it is actually true, and likely to happen without being detrimental. I won't ever vote conservative, as I disagree with a lot of what they appear to be about. So by default, I usually vote labour unless I drastically disagree with something. I don't want to vote for a party that could have a detrimental affect to my family under claims that we are earning too much, when we aren't. Maybe I'm clueless and shouldn't vote at all. It's hard to find non biased info, everyone is so extreme either way.

Thank you Cats. That's a good point of view

I do earn more than that and I do vote Labour. Taxes are the price you pay for living in a civilised society, and those who can afford to pay more should. I don’t agree with all Labour’s policies and I don’t agree with everything they propose taxes are spent on. I believe the NHS is in dire need of an overhaul and I believe that welfare reform, including some cuts, was necessary. I don’t agree, however, with how the Conservatives have gone about doing those things and many others, not least because they’ll end up costing us more overall in the long run.

What you might save in tax under a Conservative government will likely just hit you further along the line in losses and cuts to services.

No, could not vote Labour. To increase tax at £80K is wrong. He is targeting the wrong people. The threshold should be much higher.

You are not a normal family on a normal wage if your husband earns £80K.

problem is very few people think they are "well off".
You may likely consider 1/2 holidays a year, 2 cars and terraced house in London surviving but there are families out there resorting to food banks who cannot afford a home. Someone needs to cough up, the true millionaires/ billionaires will wriggle their way out of additional tax.

fyi- i would never vote Labour with JC at the helm- Im Jewish

Individuals earning over £80k aren't "normal" though as much as you may feel you are. Your husband earns more on his own than a large majority of UK households.

I personally believe that leaving the EU will have a far more negative impact on high earners (via the general economy) than paying higher tax. So I would vote Labour rather than Tory on that basis.

Wish for snow I do agree the threshold needs to be higher. Of course people have it worse than us, but we are a normal family with a normal life, we are comfortable but far from rich. Every social media post screams "no more billionaires".. we aren't tax dodging billionaires. We are a family with a house, kids and boys to pay for. DH works hard and pay a lot in taxes as it is, rightly so, but even more?

Bills, not boys.

The additional amount you'll pay in tax if you earn around £80,000 under a Labour government isn't that much anyway.

twitter.com/CorbynistaTeen/status/1194287694316216328?s=19

Yes, I will vote labour and will probably earn over £80,000 this year. Tax is how you support a society and those with more should do more of the support in my opinion.

And here's their tax calculator so you can check yourself.

calculate.forlabour.com/

Nope. But then I wouldn't vote Labour at the moment anyway.

I wouldn't vote for Jeremy Corbyn and his appalling anti Semitic cronies under any circumstances. Their spending commitments are just hilarious. Billions for everything all paid for by Taxing the most mobile talent pool in the world who can easily move anywhere they like leaving even currently levels of spending unsustainable. It's the political equivalent of a very optimistic 6 year olds list to Santa.

I earn more than that and I'll be voting labour - only chance to unseat our incumbent Tory cunt (he is a proper active cunt, not just saying that as if "Tory cunt" was one word).

On less important elections I usually vote green or indie in an attempt to have them not lose their deposit. This time round I'm being entirely tactical, I'm a one-topic Remain voter, anything is less important to me than trying to avoid fucking up the next fifty years of the UK's future.

@onlyfoolsnmothers

I'm also Jewish (and an ex-member of the Labour party) and it makes me very sad and scared how very few non-jewish people actually give a damn about us.

I would never for one second consider voting for a party that is on a hate campaign against another ethnic/religious minority. But clearly very few people feel that way about antisemitism. It's justnot a problem for them.

I've never felt less welcome in my own country than I do now, thanks to Corbyn and his associates. And no one is bothered

I can see where you’re coming from. No one wants to shoot themselves in the foot for supposed greater good. High earners already pay 45% in tax, don’t get a personal allowance, have low caps on pension contributions, don’t get 30h for 3yo and so on. To want to fleece them even more is plain greedy.

Yes, I would. There's a calculator around somewhere that shows the actual increase you'd pay under labour's tax plans - it might be less than you think.

Regardless, I want to live in a country with well funded public services and support for the vulnerable, and tax is the main way to achieve that. I'm on way less than £80k but would be happy to see a small increase in my own taxes if it meant that people could access mental health support, adequate social housing, libraries, an NHS without crippling wait times, Sure Start centres, etc.

We earn over £100k and voting Lib Dem - I believe we are very fortunate and should pay more than our 'fair share' to help others

@Marylou2 I cross posted with you, thanks for being an exception.

At 80k you are in the top 5% of the country. Think for a second how millions of people are trying to survive on way less than that (half the country earn under 25k) and then see if you think high earners like your DH paying a bit more tax might benefit the country as a whole.

everyone thinks the threshold should be higher so it doesnt touch them.....plus it's just wrong to say "my husband works hard for 80k"....plenty of people work hard for 20k...to say what an in justice poverty is but not be prepared to pay more tax is wrong.
In real terms what would you have to tighten your belts on to pay more tax?