Would you vote Labour if you earned over £80,000?

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When doing more research on labours tax policies DH and I noticed that this starts from salaries of £80,000. This would effect our household as that is DHs salary. We both agree with their campaign for 'no more billionaires'.. but we aren't billionaires. We are a normal family who live a comfortable but far from luxury lifestyle. We're both torn how to vote, as it would usually be labour.

I live in Scotland. I pay more tax than I would in England. My children are benefiting from free university education and our NHS is slightly less on its knees than it seems to be in England. Our government tried to protect it citizens from the worst excesses of austerity, mitigating against the bedroom tax for example. Believe me, it is worth a wee bit more tax from a salary that still enables me to live fairly comfortable in a stable society.

I wouldn't vote for them even if I was unemployed. Their policies are bat shit and will bankrupt us as a nation.

I would in theory as I have always been left wing and have no problem at all paying tax in return for the incredible free at point of service things we take for granted, from healthcare to education, well maintained roads, world class galleries and museums. But I happen to mistrust the current Labour set up. Under fresh leadership with clearly defined values I would. Happily. Until then, Lib Dems seems the best of a ropey old bunch.

I will pay an extra 1000 a month in tax under labour - and I would do it if it went to pay for a functional NHS, schools that are fully staffed, enough police to create a safe community to live in and public services t protect our vulnerable in a heartbeat.. we all work hard, just some of us are (possibly unfairly) rewarded more for what we do .. we should be helping create a fairer society before we make individuals richer

Friends of ours who's DH earns well over that threshold have said of Labour get in they will 100% have to move country. Not even being dramatic about it, just such a matter of fact statement- they would leave the UK. A lot of similar people in that bracket so we would all loose out in the long run.

I won't vote for them now (have done for 30 years except last 2 elections) for lots of reasons other than policy on tax eg they are incompetent, extreme and racist. Household income is above 6 figures but if I still liked the Labour party (say if they had a sane leader and policies) the tax policy would not stop me voting for them.

I would happily vote Labour when earning that much if it meant the Tories didn't get in again.

Would you vote Labour if you earned over 80k?

I suppose it depends on whether you view those earnings as predominantly a function of your "hard work" or predominantly a function of your privilege.

I'm in the latter camp. Growing up in a warm, dry home; being sent to school with a clean uniform and food in my belly; parents supporting school and higher education; not having to give over my childhood to care for siblings or relatives. All dumb luck. Hard work is important, but most of the battle was raged on my behalf and without my effort.

Agree that labours policies just seem so idealistic. For the first time in my life I have no idea how to vote.

It is very hard to know just who to vote for, thinking perhaps Green. My local Labour MP is a reasonable MP and not a Corbynite at all but I hate risking a Labour govt with Corbyn "in charge"

I find these sorts of threads bewildering. Presumably you are interested in voting Labour because you generally believe in redistribution and a fairer society? Well who exactly should be paying more tax, if not someone earning 80K?

Someone earning 80k is in about the top 4% of earners in the UK!

You can’t fund good public services based just on tax increases for the top one percent. Sure, the top one percent earn a huge amount. But by definition there are very few of them!

Yes yes yes I would. I have had a child in intensive care in the NHS for a long time. I have had two complicated pregnancies one involving long term hospitalisation. I have had a second child with repeated hospital admissions. (We are all fine now!) I don’t think what I pay in taxes will ever cover what the NHS has spent on me. And that’s not including all the other services I access- education being one of them. So yes, I will happily pay more.
I lived in the US for a bit. A 4 hour ER visit for a wheezing child led to a 4000 dollar bill. Insurance paid part of it after six months of chasing them up.

I've given up voting on policies/party politics now. I look at the selection of local candidates and decide who I would most like to be my MP and vote for them.

So yes, I would vote Labour as the Labour candidate in my area is fantastic.

Half the articles I see are calling Corbyn everything under the sun, and the other half are saying it's all a tory led smear campaign.
I see articles saying Corbyn is anti Semitic, extremist then articles saying he's been a supporter of all minorities his entire career. The information available online is all so extreme one way or the other I'm at a loss of what to believe. Has politics always been like this or is this year just a complete joke?

Yes, that is the problem with ‘tax the rich’. The real rich are too difficult to tax, assets are in trusts and companies, often in tax havens (Luxembourg for example). They instead go after ordinary people who have reasonable jobs. I would start with taxing footballers on £300k PER WEEK!

Yes I will be voting labour - tactically and in all honesty because they’re not going to win I’m not really that concerned about their policies

@leckford I don’t think that would help much, there are only about 50 of them

I earn over that and used to vote Labour. I cannot vote for Jeremy Corben regime though so will be voting Lib dems or Greens. I have no issue.with my tax rising to find a better society.

I earn more than 80k and yes I am planning on voting labour. I am well aware I earn more than the vast majority of people and have no issue with paying more tax

I earn over £80k and will be delighted t tv

It’s a few pounds different, I’m under the threshold currently myself but expect to get there in a few years and would still vote that way. DP is at that threshold and is happy to pay the extra. We live in London.

The parties have polarised over the last few years (appears to follow the trend in the population, give the ref result), but I suppose a couple of parties are offering a more clear-cut choice ie Lib Dem - Remain, Tory - Brexit. Labour want to be all things to all camps and that is not possible. However as a Remainer and ex-Labour voter I can't vote Tory (never!) but I don't support Lib Dem just revoking - totally undemocratic. I despise Corbyn and think the "lets get a brilliant deal from EU (who are you kidding) then decide not to go with the brilliant deal" is totally ridiculous, so can't vote Labour. Very tricky.

No. It’s poor value for money. Services in this country are pretty shit (not that we use the avoidable NHS/state schools etc but it matters to an extent that the population in general is well supported). A Corbyn government would likely make them worse as stupid amounts of money are thrown away on nationalisations and hoards of people loose their jobs or are unable to support themselves independently as a result of higher taxes etc. We could pay less tax to live in countries with a better supported population and therefore more pleasant environment elsewhere. There’s also a feeling that I don’t want to be where I’m not welcome. Labour paints people like us as evil scrounges who cheat workers. We’re not. We provide employment both directly and indirectly (through our spending and through the service based nature of our professions). We pay more in tax than your average person earns already and we don’t use services unless we have to (roads for instance). And yet we are demonised. If enough people in this country agree with Corbyn then I just don’t think we should be here.

From what I understand someone earning £80k will be paying an extra £20pm in tax.

That's nothing. I earn £8.75 an hour. If I was on £80k I would be ecstatic and more than happy to contribute £20 extra for the good of the country.

I earn over that. But that's not why I'm not voting labour.