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Would you vote Labour if you earned over £80,000?

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NoMansGE · 15/11/2019 10:52

When doing more research on labours tax policies DH and I noticed that this starts from salaries of £80,000. This would effect our household as that is DHs salary. We both agree with their campaign for 'no more billionaires'.. but we aren't billionaires. We are a normal family who live a comfortable but far from luxury lifestyle. We're both torn how to vote, as it would usually be labour.

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FaFoutis · 15/11/2019 11:44

I do and yes I would.

sunglasses123 · 15/11/2019 11:48

Don’t people realise that the higher wage earners will just leave... they have the money to and wherewithal to do it.

Who will then pay for these stupid ideas? Broadband is already being paid for, its not a luxury. All that will happen is that people will grab it especially if it is free) but ultimately those people will end up paying for it. There won’t be the Amazon, Google etc. There won’t be the high earners.

Jellybott · 15/11/2019 11:54

You only pay additional tax on what you earn over £80k, so if you earn exactly £80k then you won't be affected by it.

museumum · 15/11/2019 11:54

I don't usually earn that much (I'm self employed so it depends how much I work) but I don't begrudge paying tax. In fact I think we need to be paying more local taxes here, the councils are in absolute dire straits and unable to support the most vulnerable children and families, it makes me so sad. £80k salary is not 'rich' like a billionaire but it is far more than what the majority of people earn. I cannot think of any excuse to not be living comfortably on that salary.

luckygreeneyes · 15/11/2019 11:55

I’d be tempted to, if not for Corbyn and chums

museumum · 15/11/2019 11:56

"Don’t people realise that the higher wage earners will just leave... they have the money to and wherewithal to do it."

I know loads of people earning that and absolutely NONE of them will emigrate, uprooting their families to another country and culture, leaving extended family and older parents behind just due to being asked for a little more money in tax.

SpiderHunter · 15/11/2019 11:56

There won’t be the high earners.

I don't understand this. A lot of European countries have higher tax rates than we do and their high earners haven't all quit and moved abroad.

YouJustDoYou · 15/11/2019 11:56

I don't vote for antisemites.

luckygreeneyes · 15/11/2019 11:57

And I’d pay c£8k more tax

TheNavigator · 15/11/2019 11:57

Friends of ours who's DH earns well over that threshold have said of Labour get in they will 100% have to move country.

That's what Cilla Black & Jim Davidson always threatened. Then Blair got in on a landslide and they didn't go anywhere - indeed we're stuck with 'comedian' Jim Davidson to this day. So I take such comments with a massive wheelbarrow of salt.

Velveteenfruitbowl · 15/11/2019 11:58

@nowlook but what about all the people who are high earners despite not having that privilege. Do you think it’s fair to them to penalise them just because you have had an easy life? If anything surely you are compounding your privilege but pushing down those who have achieved what you have through hard work?

MarieG10 · 15/11/2019 11:59

@NoMansGE

^Half the articles I see are calling Corbyn everything under the sun, and the other half are saying it's all a tory led smear campaign.
I see articles saying Corbyn is anti Semitic, extremist then articles saying he's been a supporter of all minorities his entire career. The information available online is all so extreme one way or the other I'm at a loss of what to believe. Has politics always been like this or is this year just a complete joke?
^

Don't just read the articles, read what the Jewish Labour MPs said, both those who were forced out of the party and those that I incredibly remain such as Margaret Hodge.

I am genuinely frightened at the chilling anti semitic leadership and support within Labour. It has the hallmarks of how naziism started in Germany and is incredible in a modern day country that the official opposition party is being investigated by the EHRC.

So you don't need to read articles and fear it is a smear. Read from the people and human rights commission themselves..

An SNP supporter also had it correct when he asked Corbyn this week who would be the first terrorist to Number 10. You don't need to worry about articles smearing Corbyn and McDonnel. They don't deny their links to terrorist and openly justify it

Velveteenfruitbowl · 15/11/2019 11:59

@TheNavigator we are currently looking for positions overseas. So are most of our family members. Blair is nothing like Corbyn.

Velveteenfruitbowl · 15/11/2019 12:00

@SpiderHunter have you just not been following European politics? Don’t you remember what happened in France and indeed what happened in Britain in the 60s/70s.

Answerthequestion · 15/11/2019 12:01

We have bigger things to worry about than a bit more tax of Corbyn gets to form a government.

FOJeremy · 15/11/2019 12:02

No one should vote labour right now. Their policies will bankrupt the country then the tories will have to come in and sort it and they will be ‘the bad guys’. That’s the way it always goes.

DuchessMustard · 15/11/2019 12:03

@NoMansGE I have been aware of, and talking to people about, Corbyn's antisemitism for many years, even before he was Labour leader (an awful day for me & many other Jews in Labour).

You could read the resignation letters of the many many good Labour MPs, both Jewish and not jewish, who have been hounded out of the party and abused. that will give you some idea of what they are lik.

The thing that really gets me though is not that there are anti-semites - that has always been the case - but that so few people in the UK population really care either way

Squiff70 · 15/11/2019 12:05

Yes I would. I don't earn over £80k but would happily pay extra tax if I did. I spent 4 months in hospital two years go - a month of that on life support in critical care. I can never repay the NHS for what they did for me, and how much it cost, but I am voting Labour as I want to save the NHS. Just as importantly, I don't want to see working people having to rely on food banks (or anyone else, for that matter), I don't want to see people living on the street, I want better childcare arrangments, especially as I am expecting twins and want to go back to work when they are old enough, and I want better pay for everyone. I want a fairer benefits system and lastly, I want people to have a final say on Brexit once we know what kind of deal we're aiming for.

Vote for policies, not leaders.

That said, Lib Dem leader Jo Swinson is a vile piece of work in my opinion and she no longer represents my views of what I would want from the LD's. I urge anyone considering voting Liberal Democrats to do a little bit of reseach into the things Jo Swinson has voted for in Parliament as it's pretty damning regardless of how much - or how little - you earn.

SalrycLuxx · 15/11/2019 12:08

Yes. Would be happy to Pay more tax if it would avoid the societal breakdown that I’m seeing.

There are many other reasons to object to labour, but to be frank the idea that people who earn a shit load more should pay more isn’t one of them. And I care significantly about the anti-Semitism, but I also care about the Tories anti-Islam attitude, and frankly they’re all as bad as each other.

Doggyfeet · 15/11/2019 12:10

DH earns 100k, neither of us would have a problem with him paying an extra 1k per year in tax if it helps make a better system.

tabulahrasa · 15/11/2019 12:10

I vote for the party that had the policies I think will benefit the country most... not me at that present moment, my circumstances could change...

Answerthequestion · 15/11/2019 12:10

The thing that really gets me though is not that there are anti-semites - that has always been the case - but that so few people in the UK population really care either way

This x100. If it was happening in other minority communities there would be outrage but because it’s the Jewish community it’s immediately dismissed as those pesky keeps making a fuss about nothing again

ArthurtheCatsHumanSlave · 15/11/2019 12:11

SAHM with single high earner - we (DH) would pay thousands more in tax. A dual earning household with the same total household income would however pay nothing extra. So, no, not voting labour.

weymouthswanderingmermaid · 15/11/2019 12:13

@Velveteenfruitbowl what proportion of the population do you think can avoid using public services like you can? (Although I suspect it's not just "the roads" that you use Hmm). I want to live in a society where those that are able to, support those that are less able. Taxation is a valid way of doing this.

Bluetac19 · 15/11/2019 12:14

I care about other people and not just myself so yes I would vote labour.

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