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I'm a virgin and celibate by choice - ask me anything

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Vampirette · 16/10/2024 13:36

As the title says, I'm a (very much adult) virgin who has chosen celibacy as a way of life for various reasons. If that's something anyone might be curious about, feel free to ask questions.

Some info about me that might be relevant to keep in mind (because I know there are a lot of negative stigma and stereotypes about adult virgins):

  • I'm heterosexual (woman attracted to only men)
  • Yes, I'm religious - but no, my religion is not the reason why I have chosen celibacy (as it actually very much discourages it!)
  • I live in a European country I'm not native to. I originate from a Slavic country
  • I'm not asexual, or lack sexual drive in any way. On the contrary, I have an extremely high sex drive
  • I don't suffer from any mental or physical illnesses or disabilities that prevent me from physical intimacy. I'm in fact a very tactile person who loves to be close to people
  • I'm not neurodivergent, shy, autistic, or anything else similar
  • I don't have low self-esteem. Quite the opposite...
  • I lead a very normal life. I have a family, friends, I went to Uni, have a great job, get on great with everyone I come across, I have lots of hobbies, and I spend a lot of my time travelling
  • I don't have any issue with attracting men. Men do show a lot of interest in me, so my celibacy also does not come down to not having options
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lovenotwar149 · 16/10/2024 15:47

Why did you post this info about yourself?

AtomicPumpkin · 16/10/2024 15:47

What are 'comfounds'?

Vampirette · 16/10/2024 15:47

RevelryMum · 16/10/2024 14:55

Do you not worry if you were to marry without having sex with your husband that you might actually it be sexually compatible?

No, I don't see sex as something static that can't change. If the sex you experience the first time was truly the quality of sex you could expect for the rest of your life, then there wouldn't be so many people complaining that their sex life has changed for the worse. It's more important to be with someone who is willing and open to try new things, and who doesn't take offence to guidance. Compatibility is more than that, of course, but I also don't believe compatability is completely static. It can change for the better or worse, depending on the effort put in.

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PumpingIrnBru · 16/10/2024 15:47

G00dG1rl · 16/10/2024 15:43

Hey @Vampirette , just here to offer some solidarity. I was a virgin by choice until 24–not waiting for marriage, but waiting until I found the ideal guy (it ended up being the man I married after we dated for 6 years). I did have previous kissing and make out sessions with other guys, but I never wanted sex or oral sex with them—I wanted sex to be special and to mean something. In fact, it turned out to be a good way to weed out the dickheads, once they found out that sex would not be likely.
Having girl talk with my friends at the time, I could see that many of them would get upset after they were intimate with a guy and he let them down in one way or another. I also felt like there was pressure to over-sexualise teens before they were ready, eg, ‘If you’re still a virgin by x age, you’re a loser.’ Like virginity was something to get rid of quickly out of embarrassment, not something special between two people who care about each other.
When I decided I was ready, DH and I had been dating for about 4 months. We’d only made out when we slept over at each others’ flats, and I told him that I wanted to have sex, and that it would be my first time (he’d had previous sexual partners). We didn’t do it that night, and he made plans to go to a really nice restaurant the following weekend, and afterward he stayed the night at my flat and we DTD. I was glad I waited for someone special, and I wish you all the best in finding ‘your person.’

See, this I just think is lovely. You didn't wait for an arbitrary life goal, just a person you felt comfortable with. You didn't legally tie yourself to someone before you knew if you were compatible. This feels healthy. Personally, I love it.

But it's very different from the OP, and she judges you for your position. I believe upthread she calls it 'low value'.

Demonhunter · 16/10/2024 15:49

Vampirette · 16/10/2024 15:47

No, I don't see sex as something static that can't change. If the sex you experience the first time was truly the quality of sex you could expect for the rest of your life, then there wouldn't be so many people complaining that their sex life has changed for the worse. It's more important to be with someone who is willing and open to try new things, and who doesn't take offence to guidance. Compatibility is more than that, of course, but I also don't believe compatability is completely static. It can change for the better or worse, depending on the effort put in.

Said like someone who hasn't had a sexual relationship.

Sorry but your ideas about sex are a bit delusional. Sexual compatability is about a lot more than how much effort someone puts in.

BunnyLake · 16/10/2024 15:52

Having known two people who treated their virginity as a prize for someone I can say that neither benefitted from it. One is now long past anyone seeing it as a prize and the other had her heart broken so badly she never got over it, even over forty years after the break up of her one and only relationship (which lasted less than four years).

I’m not saying that’s going to be you but the two examples I have known were certainly not very inspiring.

HazelPlayer · 16/10/2024 15:52

Again, nonsense. How can you get an urge for something you've never experienced.

I find this totally bizarre.

We (and all animals) have the urge and drive to have sex, whether we ever have it or not.

Generally starting properly from puberty.

Vampirette · 16/10/2024 15:53

BustingBaoBun · 16/10/2024 15:00

I don't understand all this. You sound very knowledgeable and (sorry) even a little patronising about sex, others' sex lives, intimacy etc all whilst not having experienced it. And I don't know how you can be knowledgeable. You say you have a high sex drive but for me that is intertwined and being with an understanding and sexy partner, and you just haven't had that.

I am trying not to be rude, honest!
Physical attraction and wonderful lovemaking/sex is just hugely enjoyable and why would you not partake of a pleasurable experience in your life? If you don't meet this wonderful man who fits your criteria, you might never ever experience it before you die. All for some sort of principle that I can't fathom.

Well, a lot of you seem to be very patronising about virgins, adults who live with their parents, etc. too. I guess it's easy to feel people are being patronising when they live and believe differently to how YOU would, right? I genuinely don't care what other people do. I'm just trying to share MY insights, because, as this thread illustrates: people just don't get it. Which is fine, you don't have to get it! But yeah, some of you are being a bit rude when you don't need to be.

Again, I have answered the question of having urges as a virgin many times now. You are welcome to check out my previous posts about the topic.

Well, I AM getting pleasure,a nd I DO enjoy it! I take care of my own needs. But no, I don't share your opinion that sex with men is hugely enjoyable. As I mentioned earlier, so far men have only given me the ick...would you think it's enjoyable to have sex with men you have the ick for?

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TheOpalReader · 16/10/2024 15:54

The reading comprehension is absolutely amazing on this thread 🤣.

Do you date people? How would you get to know someone with the potential to marry them, hobbies? Family friends etc? I do think your life seems very nice, I wish you all the best.

ballstomonty · 16/10/2024 15:54

Vampirette · 16/10/2024 15:31

As I have already explained, people don't have sex and THEN get an urge. You get an urge and THEN you have sex. People usually develop an urge for sex around the age of 15, when they hit puberty. Isn't this just basic biology? I don't quite understand all of y'all's confusion about the whole "virgin urges" thing. I ahve urges like everybody else, the only difference is that I don't active do something about them aside from taking care of my own pleasure.

Exactly, why don't you see why people are questioning how you can state you enjoy sex if you've never had sex? Of course you can experience sexual desire and enjoy masturbation, no one is questioning that, but that isn't the same. You cannot say you like sex or what kind of sex you enjoy as a virgin.

CoffeeGood · 16/10/2024 15:54

Vampirette · 16/10/2024 15:37

I have answered this question in many other posts.

No you haven't you keep saying that people get sexual urges before having sex. Which is correct. But that doesn't explain how you can know you enjoy sex even though you haven't had it. You can imagine that you would enjoy it and you can say you like the idea of it, and you can say for sure you enjoy masturbation, you CANNOT say you enjoy sex.

Vampirette · 16/10/2024 15:55

Grepes · 16/10/2024 14:56

But, you don’t want children and are now 38 so possibly unlikely to have children as you haven’t met a partner and got married. So, these reasons don’t really apply to you. What are your reasons now children are highly unlikely?

I actually mentioned other reasons in the same post. They still apply.

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Vampirette · 16/10/2024 15:56

Uricon2 · 16/10/2024 15:02

"assuming I'm with the perfect guy".

There are no perfect guys. There are no perfect women either but that's immaterial as not what you're looking for. Even if you find a man who appears perfect for you at the time, even good marriages are hard, hard work involving compromise and tolerance. While having high standards for yourself is estimable, realism about other human beings and their failings (and our own failings) is needed in an equal partnership.

Also, if you want a virgin man of around the same age as you, the pool will be extremely small, like only visible under an electron microscope small.

Of course not. I suppose the better word would have been a suitable guy.

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Mrsttcno1 · 16/10/2024 15:56

Vampirette · 16/10/2024 15:47

No, I don't see sex as something static that can't change. If the sex you experience the first time was truly the quality of sex you could expect for the rest of your life, then there wouldn't be so many people complaining that their sex life has changed for the worse. It's more important to be with someone who is willing and open to try new things, and who doesn't take offence to guidance. Compatibility is more than that, of course, but I also don't believe compatability is completely static. It can change for the better or worse, depending on the effort put in.

To play a bit of devil’s advocate with this though, I think there is a limit to how open anyone can be to trying to new things when they haven’t tried anything.

Take anal as an example, as a virgin you may think yes I’d be open to that, but it may be that once you’ve had vaginal sex for the first time you decide based on that anal isn’t something you’d be willing to try.

I also think your willingness to try new things totally depends on your sexual relationship with your partner. For example with my husband I would be open to trying almost anything once if he expressed an interest or if I was interested in something, but that’s based on a long time together, the fact he is a very kind and gentle partner in bed, the fact he prides himself on ensuring I am “satisfied”. Does that mean if I was single and met someone else I could truthfully say I’m open? No. Because actually I could find that person to be a selfish lover, too aggressive in bed or too rough in bed for me for example. I wouldn’t know those things until after I’d slept with them for the first time though.

BunnyLake · 16/10/2024 15:57

Candaceowens · 16/10/2024 15:35

Again, nonsense. How can you get an urge for something you've never experienced.

I get urges to be a billionaire by that logic.

Of course you can. I had sexual urges long before I ever embarked on a relationship. David Cassidy could have verified that, the amount of snogging his posters I used to do back in the day.

laveritable · 16/10/2024 15:58

Best decision ever! So many Celebrities are going celibate too! It's so empowering!

Spreadtheluv · 16/10/2024 15:58

Sadly a lot of women miss out on a potentially loving relationship due to the proverbial huge tick list.

When the least little thing gives someone the ick it's not surprising they miss out. Everyone would love to have the perfect partner who never annoys us, never disagrees with us, treats us with respect at all times and puts us on a pedestal. Apart from this being an absolute fantasy,it also sounds extremely boring. Give me my beautiful and wonderfully flawed DH any day. He doesn't always get it right, he can irritate the socks off me but I love him for all his positive and wonderful attributes and wouldn't change him for the world. Above all I he loves me unconditionally.

Vampirette · 16/10/2024 15:59

Candaceowens · 16/10/2024 14:58

What nonsense. All this stuff about a "celibate lifestyle".

You're just single and waiting for marriage, if it happens. You're not living some kind of extreme lifestyle as you seem to think.

You are entitled to your opinion, it doesn't really concern me.

I already said I'm not waiting for anybody. Waiting for someone implies that I'm putting myself "out there" tob e found. I'm not. And I never said my lifestyle is extreme, I said it's uncommon. Please learn how to read and comprehend what you read. Thank you.

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PattiSmithsPattis · 16/10/2024 16:00

Are your parents involved in your life much?
Have they asked you about getting married?
How is your being single seen in your community?
Is there any pressure?
(I hope I am not offending you with these questions, it is not my intention)

Spreadtheluv · 16/10/2024 16:00

BunnyLake · 16/10/2024 15:57

Of course you can. I had sexual urges long before I ever embarked on a relationship. David Cassidy could have verified that, the amount of snogging his posters I used to do back in the day.

😅👍

Startinganew32 · 16/10/2024 16:00

God this has rubbed people up the wrong way hasn’t it? There seem to be quite a few people who have a real problem with the OP’s perfectly valid choices.
Yes she might be missing out on Prince Charming. However, I bet that at least half the people being outraged on here are with someone who is okay, not great and who doesn’t necessarily enrich their life. There really aren’t that many good looking, attentive, clever funny men out there (or women). The women I know who gush about their other halves on social media leave out the bits where their guys have cheated, leave them to do all the housework and generally disrespect them. I think people feel a need to say they are blissfully happy because otherwise they have to admit that long term relationships aren’t all they are cracked up to be. And just read all the he’s on only fans/ he pushed me/ he stayed out all night/ he sent nudes to his ex posts on the Mumsnet relationships board. I don’t think it’s a huge loss to anyone to not be in a romantic relationship.

Penguinfeet24 · 16/10/2024 16:00

Interesting thread. Hypothetical situation for you - you're 90 years old and winding your life down, you never did meet the man who you considered worthy of giving your virginity to - is there any possibility that you might feel like you should have, at least once, had sex anyway, just for the experience? Do you think that you will be glad you held to your personal values or do you think you might feel like you perhaps missed out?

Vampirette · 16/10/2024 16:02

Cozylozy · 16/10/2024 15:04

What happens to you if something happens to your parents, are you financially stable at the age of 38 one has usually carved an independent life.
As a Muslim woman of this age won’t most suitors be looking for someone younger as the need to have family is important to most.
Being in love is truly wonderful

Yeah, I'm not financially reliant on my parents. I have a great job and I earn a great salary. Most of which get put away in savings, because I don't have living expenses to pay for aside from my personal ones. And my parents are not the only family I have, I actually have a pretty big family. And we are all very close.

Sure, and that's their right. As I said, I'm not looking or waiting for suitors, so I'm not concerned with what they want. I'm just living my life.

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Cantbelievethatimafoolagain · 16/10/2024 16:03

I thought masturbation is not allowed in your religion or have I got that wrong?

I'm also a virgin, south Asian and living with parents. However, I'm not of the same religion. Truthfully I am virgin because I'm ugly!

Vampirette · 16/10/2024 16:04

WallaceinAnderland · 16/10/2024 15:06

Finding your perfect man is just half of the relationship. The friendship half. This is massively important. You want a relationship where your values align, you have the same or compatible interests, the same sense of humour, the same views on politics, faith, family, etc. All of this is very important. But it is just a friendship.

You have to experience romantic and/or sexual intimacy as well. This should progress alongside the 'getting to know you' and should be natural and wanted. It should be something that is intertwined with your friendship so that it is personal and special. It should grow at the same rate and it should not be something that you feel is dirty, bad or wrong.

You speak as if the whole thing is a contractual agreement. We will have physical intimacy on x date with no going back. I think these standards will probably only lead to disappointment.

Where do you stand on divorce?

Well written, thank you.

As for divorce, I think it can be a very necessary part of life. Not at all against it. But it's obviously not a first resort to marital problems, in most cases. Exceptions being things like abuse, rape, infidelity, and so on.

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