I smoke weed everyday AMA

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Hey! Bored and thought this could be fun. As I've said above I smoke cannabis daily, Have done for years. Only in the evening. I'm a mum and my DH does too. If anyone has any questions ask away :-)

Yes, but the point is its has to take anyone who has as little experience of drugs like you seriously on your stance because the opinions you have formed aren’t based on either facts or real life. Drugs are not simply bad, and neither are the people who take them.

Prohibition and ‘just say no’ fails miserably every single time. If you look at the existing data every UK drug awareness campaign has resulted in increased drug use. The Leah Bhetts death saw an increase in ecstasy use in the UK to the point pills called ‘Leahs’ were available (yeah its sick). The war on drugs has been a complete failure - just look at the US opioid epidemic, more people have now died in opiate overdoses in the US than were killed in the entire vietnam war.

Its OK to no be pro drugs, I don’t think I am. However it indisputable that an uniformed view on drugs is bad, don’t do them - for whatever reason (for you I’m guessing to stop people getting hurt) actually causes the very problems you are concerned about.

Since the dawn of time humans have chosen to take drugs, every possible deterrent including death has failed, people continue to find ways to take them.

Again its not right, I see the harm hard drugs do - but we have to find a better way of dealing with the problem one that saves lives.

You say you'd never drive after smoking cannabis. Do you realise that the saliva based drug tests that the police use will detect cannabis after up to 72 hours so you could still be found over the prescribed limit? Here whenever the police breathalyse someone, they are now also routinely drug wiping too.

Have you heard about a keto/atkins/low carb diet with regard to seizures? Worked with a girl about 20 years ago who was heavily drugged to control them and the drug was causing deaths in children so her parents put her on a modified atkins diet which meant she could come off all her meds and attend a mainstream school. On the drugs, she'd been unable to function - massive transformation.
Might be worth looking into?

@Thesharkradar

You can buy it on the link the poster put up.

I don’t know what criteria you need to get it and I dread to think of the cost but it has less of the negative things associated with normal cannabis like high levels of THC etc.

that poster was me,
the medical clinics sell the same cannabis as is available on the black market, with the same range of THC levels and similar prices.
Underground growers use the same techniques as legal growers, plus some of what's available in the black market has been imported from legal growers in the US.
You're talking out of your arse, as are most posters on here who know nothing about cannabis except that they personally hate it

Interesting thread - didn't learn anything from the OP herself but found out a lot I didn't know about British public opinion on this issue :)

@BSB30 I just want to say that I really admire how you've taken on board what @ItsCalledAConversation has said to you. It's nice to see an actual conversation on MN rather than people just attacking each other.

And lastly, to the many posters saying that you can definitely always smell it on people. How do you know? Have you asked everyone who doesn't smell of it if they smoke it? Because otherwise there is no way of knowing.

And lastly, to the many posters saying that you can definitely always smell it on people. How do you know? Have you asked everyone who doesn't smell of it if they smoke it? Because otherwise there is no way of knowing.

Yes I thought that. You know when you are smelling it, you cannot possibly know if there are times you haven't smelt it.

Mmmm. It's one of those things that sounds good on paper but in practice I don't see how the Government (or more likely, private companies) could wrest control of the supply chains especially those coming in from countries where it's still illegal (ie most of them) and also why the big criminal gangs would want to give those supply chains up. They'd be more likely to want to keep the chains and promote Class As and Bs more heavily if cannabis was no longer a profitable line for them. And that would have a big knock on effect. So in conclusion my view is that it would lead to a hell of a lot of bloodshed and bother and expense before it got better (maybe in 20/30 years?) and tbh if I was in Government I'd look at the size and scale of the task and think sod it, there's other more immediate things to worry about.

In practice I can see a continuation of the current approach of quietly decriminalising.

Use is becoming more widespread and the two big things that the NHS / Police needs to get their hands around is a) stone driving. There was some recent stats on this and it's becoming more and more of an issue as stoned drivers do crash but tend to behave in different ways to drunk drivers (e.g. slower decision making leading to pile ups etc) whereas drunk drivers tend to cause accidents from overshooting or being overconfident.

Second one is mental health. Too much smoking makes you paranoid if you have a pre-existing mental health issue. This was the problem I had. See the role that cannibis played in the recent tragic abuse and death of little Finley Boden.

@Strugglingtodomybest @BSB30 me too! Nice to actually have a conversation (my username is not for nothing!)

Just with regards to your first paragraph - have you been to any of the the US states where weed is legal? The example there is a great one, one of the single only sole things the US has got right politically in the last couple of decades!

All drug use is fuelling the illegal trade in drugs. So by smoking it every day you are putting money into organised crime.

This “organised crime” is growing it in a back garden. Some of the replies on here are hilarious, you’re really showing your lack of knowledge on this issue if you think cannabis is being smuggled into the U.K. from South America. This isn’t cocaine. It’s very easily grown and most dealers grow it themselves.

And I’m saying this as someone who hates cannabis and would never smoke it.

Yes I travel to NY and SF quite regularly for work and have family in NY so fairly familiar with that city. Tbh I think neither city is a great advertisement for legalised/decrim weed as they both have major crime and drug problems. SF in particular is very sad with so many vulnerable people on the streets.

I do know from my fam and colleagues that part of the huge uptick in gang violence in NY is thought to be due to the fact that legal supply lines are now competing with illegal ones and the latter aren’t very happy about it. The NYT has had some really good in depth reporting on this recently.

Having said that those are two big cities with severe wealth inequality so it’s probably not right to regard either of them as a benchmark example of the unintended consequences of legal/decrim weed. I’d be interested to hear of other places where it’s worked better to get a fairer comparison.

Sorry that was meant to be a reply to @ItsCalledAConversation 😀

This isn’t cocaine. It’s very easily grown and most dealers grow it themselves
Yes, off the top of my head I know nothing about the growing requirements of the cocoa plant but I don't think it grows well in the UK, as far as I know also requires a significant amount of processing before you get the final product- cocaine.
Cannabis on the other hand, very easy to grow in the UK and requires very little processing before you get a usable product.

Obviously, any stats about supply side need to be taken with a huge handful of salt (as dealers don't tend to respond to trade surveys lol), but yes it is thought that since about 2020 the UK has actually become a net exporter of cannabis.

The big problem in terms of supply side in the UK is human trafficking - vulnerable Albanian (and formerly Vietnamese) youth are trafficked to the UK to be forced into the industry. A lot of the industry is now in the hands of Albanian criminal gangs and they have their hands in all sorts of other horrible things that abuse the vulnerable. So any legalisation would involve wresting control of these gangs and their various supply lines which you'd need proper cross border cooperation to do (the Albanian Govt has thus far not shown any particular desire to be of any help at all by the way) and could have all sorts of unintended consequences.

Surely the best way to get it out of the hands of criminal gangs would be to tell everyone they can grow their own if they want to
but the government don't want people growing their own the government want to make a profit out of it themselves ....notably Theresa May's husband

Um, I don't think criminal gangs work like that lol. "Oh gosh, here's some ordinary punters who want to take our extraordinarily lucrative trade away from us. Welp. We won't commit horrdenous acts of violence to maintain our oligopoly tho. We'll just be kind and let them have it"

Nah not really 😂

The other issue I could see with legalisation is which strains to legalise. So many different ones these days. Sure you've still got the nice mellow stuff that made John and Yoko stay in bed for peace for ages. But you've also got the strains that make you hallucinate wildly, have terrible moodswings and are closer to MDMA in their effects (very scary when you're not expecting it). Probably not a good idea to legalise those strains but if there is a lucrative niche trade that's in the hands of a cross boder gang, and a private business comes along and tries to take on the less harmful strains....again I can see big problems there.

I do think that given the huge kick up in law enforcement and gang related activity / violence that would ensure in say the first two decades, that the tax take would not be a net benefit. Putting ordinary people at risk by telling them to grow their own would be even worse. I do think that the current policy of quiet decriminalisation and focus on the gangs trafficking drugs and people, is probably more the way to go.

But you've also got the strains that make you hallucinate wildly, have terrible moodswings and are closer to MDMA in their effects (very scary when you're not expecting it)
Presume that you're talking about the strains that have been engineered to have 60% THC? @potniatheron

No idea. As mentioned above and elsewhere on these threads I'm in 12 Step Recovery and so my knowledge of the current market comes from those I sponsor, and my own past experiences.

I think all plants which are sold to humans are engineered in some ways - you obviously know more about it than I do! My interest is more in the pure business of the drug trade.

Just realised that that last sentence made me sound like Walter White wannabe, I can assure you I'm not! But I do have some knowledge of international supply line logistics which is why it interests me

We could certainly learn a lot from the likes of Portugal.

Don't forget the husband of the former drugs minister Victoria atkins, Paul (can't remember his last name) who I believe either rents land/bought it from British sugar to grow and export! And of course TM's hubby takes in proceeds from having his finger in all the pies...

This hallucinogenic type you mention, sounds more like spice to be honest.