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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Dawn Butler and biology

291 replies

HDDD · 17/02/2020 18:35

Clip from GBM interview this morning.
twitter.com/JammersMinde/status/1229439480064610308
She said "Babies are born without sex"
Unless she said something after to clarify what she meant by this or backtracked then I guess this is her starting point....
Astounding. Labour have lost the plot, and me.

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PronounssheRa · 17/02/2020 18:44

Shit, she really does say babies are born without a sex at around 1.07 on that clip.

How the fuck have we ended up with so many people senior in the Labour Party that are this stupid, just how.

Imnobody4 · 17/02/2020 18:44

Yes I saw that. Words fail me, don't they know the internet never forgets.

Ratrace123 · 17/02/2020 18:45

Oh my god. The level of la la land going on in labour when it comes to transgender ideology. I can’t stand it. They just cannot gets anything right. Totally up their own purity circles.

It’s so pathetic and of no help to genuine trans lobby. What we see is pure pandering to mentally unwell people, AGP men, fetishists....worst of all it holds the door wide open for unnecessary and harmful interventions to gender non-conforming girls and boys.

#sexnotgender

BovaryX · 17/02/2020 18:45

She said "Babies are born without sex"

Seriously? Labour are going to make their political irrelevance permanent

Goosefoot · 17/02/2020 18:46

She must have meant gender identity, surely?

TwoHeadedYellowBelliedHoleDig · 17/02/2020 18:48

Wow. Has she never read a biology textbook? What does she know that everyone else doesn't?

PronounssheRa · 17/02/2020 18:48

Butler also claimed 90% of giraffes are gay, a claim which was called ‘offensive’ and ‘homophobic’ by one of Jeremy Corbyn’s advisers.Sorry for the guardian link.

www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/science/shortcuts/2019/oct/29/99-per-cent-giraffes-gay-loving-looks-misunderstood

Winesalot · 17/02/2020 18:51

I was also busy watching the presenter insist it was not his opinion that he was presenting.... But he did look incredulous while doing so...

justcly · 17/02/2020 18:52

Well, she's a numpty, isn't she?

Goosefoot · 17/02/2020 18:56

Butler also claimed 90% of giraffes are gay, a claim which was called ‘offensive’ and ‘homophobic’

My thought was more, dumb and irrelevant.

ThePurported · 17/02/2020 18:58

Has she never read a biology textbook?

I suspect she is one of those TRAs whose brains are so addled by Queer Theory that they always think of sex in terms of sexual acts and identity.

aliasundercover · 17/02/2020 19:00

I don't usually like being so dismissive of women, but she must be genuinely stupid to make that remark.

Cascade220 · 17/02/2020 19:00

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transdimensional · 17/02/2020 19:08

I suppose this sort of idea derives from terminology such as "assigned male" which makes it sound as though the assignment is based on something more than simple observation and that the baby isn't male or female before that point?

AutumnCrow · 17/02/2020 19:12

What like Schrödinger's sex?

Mockersisrightasusual · 17/02/2020 19:12

Butler also claimed 90% of giraffes are gay, a claim which was called ‘offensive’ and ‘homophobic’ by one of Jeremy Corbyn’s advisers.

Was it Jeffrey, formerly of Toys Я Us, or is he still on the dole?

MsTSwift · 17/02/2020 19:12

Even Richard from Richard and Judy was obviously shocked and he’s not the sharpest tool in the box himself

littlbrowndog · 17/02/2020 19:14

Well. Omg

It was like watching a person who forgot her brain

Don’t mention penises. Dogwhistle , TWAW

And babies don’t have a sex when they are born.

She gets paid for this.

And as for Madeley. Jeez you could see the fear all over him

Grow a spine Richard

AutumnCrow · 17/02/2020 19:28

I'm liking #GrowASpineRichard

Siameasy · 17/02/2020 19:33

Fucking hell she actually said it - is she all there?!

OvaHere · 17/02/2020 19:46

Total insanity.

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SophocIestheFox · 17/02/2020 19:48

How in the seven hells did this sort of extremist, anti scientific bumwash make its way onto the sofas of morning telly?

Every time i think “surely people are just pretending to believe this”, someone like Dawn pops up and I lose a little more faith in humanity.

Lordfrontpaw · 17/02/2020 19:50

Does she have kids?

justcly · 17/02/2020 19:50

@Mockersisrightasusual:

Jeffrey identifies as a leopard.