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Munroe - Childline 's first LGBT+ campaigner.

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HandsOffMyRights Thu 06-Jun-19 08:25:04

Words fail me today

TERFApparently Thu 06-Jun-19 08:27:20

Another day that I’m glad I didn’t carry on with the NSPCC volunteering

FlapsMagazine Thu 06-Jun-19 08:35:16

The same Munroe who thought it was fine and dandy for a child to be performing in an adult nightclub for money?

Sounds ideal.

truthisarevolutionaryact Thu 06-Jun-19 08:41:16

Really? I rarely comment on threads about individuals but a charity responsible for children's safety?

Due diligence NSPCC!

truthisarevolutionaryact Thu 06-Jun-19 08:41:56

Gah - Childline!

OvaHere Thu 06-Jun-19 08:44:07

I'm not surprised about this although why Munroe was thought to be a suitable pick I don't know.

What does surprise me a bit is this is their FIRST LGBT campaigner - so in all the years of rights activism it never occurred to them to ask any gay man or lesbian women? Presumably young teens conflicted about their sexual orientation or having home life difficulties because of it have used the service for many years?

OhHolyJesus Thu 06-Jun-19 08:44:23

"Throughout my career as an activist".

Children need protection from this crap. I couldn't care less about Paris Lees advertising Pantene but this is serious - Munroe is hardly a shining example for children. Wrong decision.

happydappy2 Thu 06-Jun-19 08:50:40

MB has an overly pornified view of womanhood.....not sure vulnerable children should be talking to them.

OrchidInTheSun Thu 06-Jun-19 08:58:03

What a great role model - someone who has had extensive facial surgery and doesn't want women and girls to have boundaries hmm

ScrimshawTheSecond Thu 06-Jun-19 09:04:20

Like you, Ova, I'm very surprised there haven't been any LGB campaigners before. Or does MB just mean 'T'?

StealthPolarBear Thu 06-Jun-19 09:07:16

Yes if there have seriously never been any lesbian or gay campaigners before then they have failed as an organisation.
Can someone tell me what the hell all the TIA+¿ stuff is? It would make a lovely secure password.

HandsOffMyRights Thu 06-Jun-19 09:07:17

Link to Flaps' post, in which Munroe is asked about Desmomd (11 year old boy who dances for money in gay clubs) and does not answer, but gets Julia Long ejected for asking the question.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3512177-Julia-Long-asking-Munro-Bergdorf-about-child-exploitation?pg=1&order=

NotBadConsidering Thu 06-Jun-19 09:07:57

Peter Tatchell will be next.

ChattyLion Thu 06-Jun-19 09:18:59

www.childline.org.uk/info-advice/your-feelings/sexual-identity/transgender-identity/

Unfortunately having just looked at their website front page, this seems consistent with their confusing, irresponsible and pathologising messaging.

Eg

‘*FEELING CONFUSED ABOUT YOUR GENDER*
When we’re born people have to record whether we’re a boy or a girl. This is usually based on seeing whether we have male or female sex organs.

Being transgender or trans is when someone feels that their gender identity is different from the gender they were given at birth. Trans people might:

^feel like they’re in the ‘wrong body’ and that their genitals don’t match how they feel
want to change their clothes to better match the gender they identify with^

be scared about telling people about how they feel.

^Not everyone who’s trans wants to go from living as a boy to a girl (or the other way around). But some trans people might want to *change things about themselves, such as how they look or parts of their body. It’s important to do what feels right for you.*’

(bolding at the end was mine.)
Telling kids ‘it’s important to do what you feel’ about changing parts of their body?!

Are you kidding me?
Childline is for CHILDREN. Young enough to need outside help and support. So since when did it advocate for children to ‘do what they feel’ about taking on permanent hormonal medical or surgical changes?

This is really dangerous.

ChattyLion Thu 06-Jun-19 09:23:09

Ugh sorry for formatting. Just look at their homepage and you will find their info on this. First box shown under ‘ADVICE RIGHT NOW’ is ‘gender identity’. Above ‘physical abuse’, ‘FGM’ and ‘Confidence building’.

This is the homepage link:
www.childline.org.uk/

NotBadConsidering Thu 06-Jun-19 09:26:11

“If you’re experiencing concern about your gender, press 1 to be transferred to our Mermaids colleagues. If you’re looking for drag advice or lingerie tips, press 2 to transfer you to our special friend Munroe. If your teacher wants to show you how to masturbate, press 3 for tips on how to make this a more comfortable experience.”

Ereshkigal Thu 06-Jun-19 09:27:47

Insane decision.

Datun Thu 06-Jun-19 09:36:58

Munro apparently doesn't see anything wrong with a 10-year-old twerking for money in an adult only club.

And now they are a representative of Childline???

LangCleg Thu 06-Jun-19 09:43:14

Childline drank the Kool Aid long since.

I would not regard it as a safe haven for children at all any longer.

And that Munroe has been appointed given the words on record about child drag acts, well - third sector capture at its finest.

nonsenceagain Thu 06-Jun-19 09:45:22

It really is Kids Company again, isn’t it? What absolute fools they are and how sad for the children who really need this service.

RoyalCorgi Thu 06-Jun-19 09:46:27

Let's remember this Times story from just over a year ago about Bergdorf:

'But The Times discovered a tweet where she made fun of a friend, saying: “How’s your barren womb? We all know your little secret . . . hairy lesbian!” She also criticised a singer on television, saying: “You have to admit she did look like a butch LEZZA tho.” The DJ from London wrote that a character on the American TV show Glee was so “annoying” that “even I’d like to gay bash him!'

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/labour-lgbt-adviser-munroe-bergdorf-wanted-to-gay-bash-star-b75v8l60r

I'm sure gay and lesbian teenagers will be absolutely thrilled to have Bergdorf campaigning for them on behalf of Childline.

AccioWine Thu 06-Jun-19 09:54:26

Does Childline know any of the past things Munroe has said? Or do they just not care in the race to be inclusive?
I'm struggling to understand how this is happening and why no-one cares.

R0wantrees Thu 06-Jun-19 09:55:39

Childline is mangaed by NSPCC.

Last year NSPCC refused to engage with MN members Safeguarding concerns:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/3353658-AIBU-to-be-shocked-that-the-NSPCC-cancelled-their-Facebook-Live-session-with-Mumsnetters-because-they-didnt-like-the-questions-That-they-cant-explain-why-they-arent-putting-children-in-danger

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/mumsnet_facebook_live/a3343961-Facebook-Live-about-talking-to-kids-about-staying-safe-from-abuse-with-NSPCC

Munroe Bergdorf does not understand Safeguarding.
NSPCC will not discuss Safeguarding concerns.

Didn't Mermaids charity publicise their work with NSPCC?
Susie Green (CEO) & Mermaids do not understand Safeguarding.

There is a systemic failure of Safeguarding & Child Protection frameworks where trans-rights lobbyists intersect.

Cismyfatarse Thu 06-Jun-19 09:58:00

I'm not surprised about this although why Munroe was thought to be a suitable pick I don't know.

I think you missed an 'r'

TheInebriati Thu 06-Jun-19 10:01:04

Would Childline tolerate those types of comments from any of their employees?

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