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Munroe - Childline 's first LGBT+ campaigner.

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HandsOffMyRights · 06/06/2019 08:25

Words fail me today

Munroe - Childline 's first LGBT+ campaigner.
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ByGrabtharsHammarWhatASaving · 07/06/2019 12:10

The more I think about this the more I think we need to do something to take the NSPCC seriously to task over this stuff. Who are they accountable to? We need to start escalating our response to this.

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LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 07/06/2019 12:13

Charities commission?

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StealthPolarBear · 07/06/2019 12:20

Children's commissioner as well

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BlooperReel · 07/06/2019 12:50

@SarahTancredi and @ByGrabtharsHammarWhatASaving

I am not really expecting any meaningful reply either to be honest, but really felt I had to let them know my feelings on this, I would be happy to co-sign an open letter or contact the charities commissioner etc as part of a united effort in holding them to account on this if anyone is that way inclined.

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ChickenonaMug · 07/06/2019 13:41

This is horrifying. Anybody who understands how sexual abusers work is aware that children, even teenagers, often have no idea that they are being used. The whole point of grooming is that the abuser claims to be your friend and convinces you to lower your boundaries without you ever realising that something is wrong. Surely an organisation as big as the NSPCC understands this? It beggars belief.

RoyalCorgi They know - they must do, as it is on their website under the section on grooming and it states " Many children and young people don't understand that they have been groomed or that what has happened is abuse. " So why are they going into schools and teaching children an incorrect, and in my opinion, harmful definition of sexual abuse?

As a child who was groomed and sexually abused, I know that I had no concerns or worries about what was happening whilst I was a primary school aged child. My abuser made very sure that I was not worried by anything that was happening. My awareness of how wrong it all was really did not develop until the second half of year 7 and then I felt great shame which allowed the abuse to continue longer.

I found reading what is covered in the Speak Out, Stay Safe programme quite upsetting and very concerning. I think that it places a layer of responsibility and guilt on an abused child to be suitably upset by sexual abuse and it may well make them feel that if they were not upset at the time then maybe it was, as their abuser said, because they wanted/enjoyed it. This will then feed into their 'shame' and will reduce the already small chances of them feeling able to seek help from others.

The NSPCC should focus on acquiring people to work with them that have experienced abuse and can point out what they can do that works and what may cause harm. They should not be focusing on seeking ambassadors such as MB who, as concerned parents rightly point out, comes with a significant history of inappropriate comments and behaviour that makes them unsuitable for the post of advocating for a children's safeguarding charity.

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DuMondeB · 07/06/2019 13:48

This advice is horrifically irresponsible. I supported an adult friend through the realisation she had been groomed and abused by a trusted adult (a trainer in a niche sport that my friend excelled at as a teenager).

My friend had spent years being baffled as to why she had repeatedly consented to something she found (in hindsight) so abhorrent.

For cripes sake mate, you were groomed Into it!

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DuMondeB · 07/06/2019 13:51

Are the NSPCC aware of the links between sexual abuse/harassment of girls and their rejection of their female body?

I posted this earlier, on the thread about Dagny (Pique Resilience) but it’s so important I will share it here too:

www.instagram.com/detransstories/

Munroe - Childline 's first LGBT+ campaigner.
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BuzzShitbagBobbly · 07/06/2019 13:54

Their twitter is awash with rainbows and mermaids-alike bullshit. They've been assimilated for sure.

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R0wantrees · 07/06/2019 13:56

Sherry Malik is
NSPCC Director of childrens services

twitter.com/sherry_malik

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SarahTancredi · 07/06/2019 15:03

Well well well the Twitter post has gone.

Taking with it all the pictures and examples of a certain person's unsuitablity of course...

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MiffysMissingSock · 07/06/2019 15:07

Oh dear. Shame it's here for prosperity.

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StealthPolarBear · 07/06/2019 15:18

No it hasn't I was just on it

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StealthPolarBear · 07/06/2019 15:19

I don't know how to link to a tweet but definitely still there

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BuzzShitbagBobbly · 07/06/2019 15:35

Nope, it's gone. If you have it open - please screenshot as much as possible. Don't let them sneak off like the cowards they are.

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ChattyLion · 07/06/2019 15:38

mobile.twitter.com/NSPCC_Press

Just popped over to look at NSPCC press office twitter. Lots of posts on there about ChildLine’s massive increase in calls just in the past year about gender identity.

So at this point a responsible informed organisation be keenly learning more about ROGD - not offering leading suggestions towards drastic permanent physical interventions, as they are actually doing.

NSPCC should be very carefully reading the Transgender Trend materials which point to evidence that there is around this and how it’s affecting girls.

Happy to see that already NSPCC have had GC people tweeting questions on that account but it’s very strange that these questions are as yet unanswered by the NSPCC.

Also on the appointment of MB, this is still a strange choice any way you look at it. If the calls NSPCC get mirror the profile of patients who to NHS gender ID clinics, then NSPCC would be seeing a huge increase in girls calling reporting confusion and distress. What has porny posing in pants got to do with them? Nothing.

And what help does someone with this cosmetically surgeried , pornified image offer to boys who are worried about gender issues either? Equally, nothing. Why are young boys being offered such an extreme example of surgery and sexualised presentation as someone to look up to? (anyone under 19 can call Childline, which is run by the NSPCC)

Is that type of image what NSPCC think being a typical adult trans person is like? It’s actually very insulting to trans people as well as being massively inappropriate to children.

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Datun · 07/06/2019 15:41

Just popped over to look at NSPCC press office twitter. Lots of posts on there about ChildLine’s massive increase in calls just in the past year about gender identity.

I'm guessing that part of the problem is the lack of charities/organisations that aren't unquestioningly affirmative. Yet remain knowledgeable and supportive.

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Imnobody4 · 07/06/2019 16:17

Interestingly on the NSPCC twitter there are lots of stories of black kids using skin whitening creams after racist bullying. What's the difference to young girls wanting to become boys because of sexism?
And where are those gay Tory Mps who complained about MB being appointed as LBGT advisor by the Labour Party. Should we lobby them to speak out.

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ChickenonaMug · 07/06/2019 16:22

Is this the twitter thread.

mobile.twitter.com/NSPCC_Press/status/1136573042832941056

I am not on twitter so found it through the link above. It is appearing fine to me.

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ScrimshawTheSecond · 07/06/2019 17:10

Bergdorf's tweet? Still there.

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LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 07/06/2019 17:19

Yes it’s a worry isn’t it.

I’m sure they thought that because they have more kids calling in because they are bullied for being trans - and let’s not kid ourselves, the whole rainbow unicorn family is trans and this is a recent thing (and being pushed heavily with stonewall and mermaids, allsorts ets. Being welcomed into schools) as kids have always been bullied for being gay - they thought ‘hello let’s get a high profile trans face onboard. I know who’s that person who is always in the evening standard?’

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Imnobody4 · 07/06/2019 17:44

Great letter to Wanless from Safe Schools Alliance
m.facebook.com/safeschoolsallianceuk/posts/2256486917998882

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OrchidInTheSun · 07/06/2019 19:55

I was just about to post that Imnobody. It's really good

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FlapsMagazine · 07/06/2019 19:56

They've removed the tweet that featured the OPs original screen shot that I posted a link to earlier, it had 50+ comments. Other tweets such as the Press Office one remain, as does this entirely devoid of awareness one regarding grooming

mobile.twitter.com/NSPCC/status/1135962002218786816

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StealthPolarBear · 07/06/2019 19:59

I've just taken this screenshot five seconds ago

Munroe - Childline 's first LGBT+ campaigner.
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kaldefotter · 07/06/2019 20:07

With the NSPCC having deleted their tweet, the replies are orphaned but can still be found.

Just put to:nspcc into the search box on Twitter.

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