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Julia Long asking Munro Bergdorf about child exploitation

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happydappy2 · 19/02/2019 13:27

Julia Long was asked to leave the venue, after asking MB if it was normal that an 11yr old child dancing in front of adults, has money thrown at them by grown men. This was at Transmission & was deemed an offensive question....video footage on twitter of the incident.....worth a watch, sorry I can’t link to it but hope someone else can.



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SunsetBeetch · 19/02/2019 13:57

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RiverTam · 19/02/2019 14:13

Julia is always so calm and articulate. I saw photo stills from Desmond, it was so inappropriate it's unbelievable and yet Munroe thinks it's all tickety-boo.

And people said that Julia's Adult Woman sweatshirt made them feel unsafe. FUCK OFF.

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WeRiseUp · 19/02/2019 14:35

Well done Julia Long. That takes some guts - but look she survived. No one was hurt. It may buck female socialisation to be so challenging and direct (even though she was extremely polite and respectful) - but there will be some in that room - perhaps even the ones booing the loudest at the disruption - who will have nagging thoughts as a result and may join in with stopping this rise of PIE via LGBT and social media normalisation.

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sackrifice · 19/02/2019 14:39

Calm woman asking difficult questions about child abuse and getting chucked out for it.

Keep on keeping on Munroe. You are showing the complete lack of concern for kids across the board.

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DonaldTwain · 19/02/2019 14:40

Charitable interpretation of this - and I think the true one - is that bergdorf’s narcissism is sufficiently all consuming to cause blindness to the reality of what is going on in these situations.
No excuse for the rest of them

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BettyDuMonde · 19/02/2019 14:46

Bergdorf really does seem completely oblivious about safeguarding kids! It’s all, ‘let kids be themselves’ without any thought as to why women, especially mothers, have concerns about this stuff -

You wouldn’t let a little girl in full make up parade around an fashioned stripper pub, hustling for men to put pound coins in a pint pot - why is it different if it’s a boy?

A kid shouldn’t even be inside a nightclub, let alone performing in one.

Desmond can wear a frock and lipsynch to pop music if he likes, but it’s inappropriate to cast that behaviour into an adult world, regardless of the sexuality of the adults. It’s even more inappropriate for a parent to profit from it.

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Callmejudith · 19/02/2019 14:47

Well done Julia.

And MB "I support children to do whatever they want to do".....said no parent ever

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happydappy2 · 19/02/2019 14:57

Thanks for the link sunset it is just depressing that MB has no concern whatsoever for the safety of young children, and thinks parents should 'listen to what children want.' Total disregard of the adults who will exploit children at any opportunity.

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Knicknackpaddyflak · 19/02/2019 15:01

This has always been the bottom line: if the word 'trans' is involved, no one may raise any boundaries of any kind. All normal standards and protections should be exempted, to question or in any way even hint at 'no' or boundaries of acceptability unleashes the tantrums.

Needs seeing for what it is.

A grown male normalising the sexual exploitation of a child, in the UK, with a lot of adults who know damn well it's absolutely inappropriate and unacceptable muddled into thinking that it's somehow progressive. It's not. It's deranged.

Sunlight. Exposure. And repeated, gentle reminders to the utter prats in authority that when this ends - as it inevitably will - in the kind of a safeguarding disaster that the very unwoke will be extremely and demonstratively angry about (Essex man and White Van Man in the lead), they are going to get their behinds handed to them in matchboxes.

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TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 19/02/2019 15:02

My respect for Julia Long is growing rapidly.

She has a moral compass and real guts.

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QueenofallIsee · 19/02/2019 15:06

It’s almost as though the Trans movement is sacrificing children knowingly and willingly, as without a large number of children declaring themselves Transgender, there is no basis for it not being a mental illness or sexual fetish particularly prevalent in adult white males. Surely not!

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nauticant · 19/02/2019 15:11

The twitter thread posted by SunsetBeetch is a thing of beauty. It really is well worth a read.

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Lottapianos · 19/02/2019 15:17

'She has a moral compass and real guts.'

She really goes. More power to her.

'And people said that Julia's Adult Woman sweatshirt made them feel unsafe. FUCK OFF'

Fuck off with BELLS ON. It's so pathetic I almost want to cry

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RiverTam · 19/02/2019 15:24

why has Andy's post been deleted?

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WeRiseUp · 19/02/2019 15:33

bergdorf’s narcissism is sufficiently all consuming to cause blindness to the reality of what is going on

I think the way it works is that the older AGPs really pushing for change don't draw anyone in or elicit sympathy, so they need the young, plastic surgery keen homosexual transsexuals like Paris Lees and Munroe Bergdorf to make it look glamorous and aspirational. Lees let it slip that 'there's money to be made' on the 'circuit' - I bet it helps to be young and glamorous to get those gigs. The older AGPs are riding in their slipstream.

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ToeToToe · 19/02/2019 16:03

I admire Julia so, so much.

The thing that screams out at me from Munroe's response:

"...it was focussed on how we can encourage children to be themselves, how we can listen to what they want to do.."

Well my 11yr old doesn't get to do everything she wants to do. Because frankly, some of it would downright inappropriate or dangerous. Like, unfettered access online. Or, just unwise, like going to a BTS concert on a school night. The answer to that was NO.

Just this morning she tells me she wants long acrylic nails. NO. She's 11. Plenty of time for all that.

Anyway, this is normalising of children doing v adult things - AKA doing what they like/"expressing" themselves. It's only a matter of time before this includes taking puberty blockers, sex hormones, and then straight on to having sex with adults. Because of course that's where this is going.

Well done Julia.

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DisrespectfulAdultFemale · 19/02/2019 16:08

#TeamJulia.

#TeamMartina.

Munroe and their ilk can fuck off.

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