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Nextloorejext Mon 23-Apr-18 19:17:05

This trans forum has a long thread on Mumsnet. Seems they are actively lobbying companies to pull out advertising on Mn on the grounds of Mn allowing/supporting/encouraging hate and transphobia. After having a quck look, the Angels site seems to spout it’s on views on “terfs” which sound pretty hateful, possibly even misogynistic. I know both sides if the debate can go over the top and get pretty nasty - but, am i wrong to find many pisters there completely hypocritical in targetting Mn for the kind of comments and rhetoric similar to which they are accusing Mn of, not only accusing but trying to damage the site with haranguing the sites advertisers to pull out.

Ardant Mon 23-Apr-18 19:23:13

It's interesting that Mumsnet is being targeted so much.

Maybe it shows that it's actually having an impact - women talking this stuff through, and empowering each other to question things and not just accept everything blindly.

spontaneousgiventime Mon 23-Apr-18 19:27:40

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3227529-Trans-unpeak?pg=14&messages=25

SwearyGodPervert Mon 23-Apr-18 19:40:27

I wonder if we’d be getting so much shit if we were parentsnet. Doubt it. It’s the triple whammy of a female space, women having their own thoughts and opinions, and disagreeing with the trans mafia.

The language that is used on there about women is so dehumanising. Horrible place.

spontaneousgiventime Mon 23-Apr-18 19:44:10

It's all stereotypes, flouncy dresses, high heels and make-up. I own all of those things, can't remember when I last wore/used them. I don't have time. It really is a horrible place, misogyny central.

thebewilderness Mon 23-Apr-18 19:48:36

Some people who participate on that forum and this one have posted screen caps there of what we say here.
That has contributed to the targeting of MN by that forums participants and an influx of trolls to this forum.

spontaneousgiventime Mon 23-Apr-18 19:51:39

thebewilderness If you read the link I posted, they bullied JayceeDove from that forum last night. All because she posted here. I agree, well, I suspect some from there may well be behind the tolling/screenshots.

NotTerfNorCis Mon 23-Apr-18 19:52:27

Can you link to the thread on Angels?

ReluctantCamper Mon 23-Apr-18 19:53:36

meh. This is a public forum. If their idea of a good time is taking screenshots of another forum they can knock themselves out. Really, who cares?

spontaneousgiventime Mon 23-Apr-18 19:54:14

On the thread link above NotTerf

spontaneousgiventime Mon 23-Apr-18 19:55:53

ReluctantCamper Quite! We're hardly hiding on the dark web.

thebewilderness Mon 23-Apr-18 20:00:02

The women under threat of doxxing and/or assault and/or losing their jobs care.

spontaneousgiventime Mon 23-Apr-18 20:04:03

thebewilderness Well lets face it, if they can threaten to out one of their own, doing stuff to us is almost a given.

ArcheryAnnie Mon 23-Apr-18 20:09:04

I had a look and it's like Mirror Universe over there. There's a thread on Tara Wolf attacking Maria Mac, where Maria is (of course) painted as the "aggressor", and all the posters seem to think that the court case paints "terfs" in a really bad light. It's just extraordinary.

And as for harrassing JayceeDove - that's just horrible, I didn't see that before. It's a bloody cult, and unless you keep in line exactly, out you go.

Greymisty Mon 23-Apr-18 20:15:31

Just read the other thread im so sad for jayceedove. I didn't read the Angel forum because I don't wanna see them bully her. She must be in her 60s (said in her post she was brought up in the 1950s) she transitioned ages ago. Wheres the respect for this person who has lived a good life hurting no one.

LangCleg Mon 23-Apr-18 20:17:31

Some people who participate on that forum and this one have posted screen caps there of what we say here.

I'm afraid so. Salutary lesson about playing both sides against the middle.

ArcheryAnnie Mon 23-Apr-18 20:23:01

I've got no problem with people being on both forums, but I have a huge problem with anyone who is bullshitting us here and not discussing in good faith.

spontaneousgiventime Mon 23-Apr-18 20:28:22

We have no hidden or members section here, all we say is visible to anyone who wants to look. Angels does have a private members area, so we can only guess what's discussed in there.

CircleSquareCircleSquare Mon 23-Apr-18 21:21:52

“We control the politicians, we control the media, taking over Mumsnet should be simple enough”

Says it all really.

AssassinatedBeauty Mon 23-Apr-18 21:24:50

That was surely sarcasm, not a serious post?

thebewilderness Mon 23-Apr-18 21:34:26

Given the number of transgender advocates who have been welcomed to this forum in the name of free speech this pat week or two I do not think it an idle boast or sarcasm.
They harass us for long enough with impunity and the blessing of MNHQ and we will be silenced. That is how they wear people down till they can claim there is no opposition.

I am angry with JC because they knew what would happen when they screen capped here and shared it there and they did it anyway.

CircleSquareCircleSquare Mon 23-Apr-18 21:37:25

That was surely sarcasm, not a serious post?

Reading more, I think it might be sarcastic.
At least I certainly hope so. The distance between our groups creates so much fear.

ReluctantCamper Mon 23-Apr-18 21:40:34

crikey, let's dial down the righteous indignation. people are dicks on the internet. so fucking what?

if you don't stand by what you say, don't post it.

if it's important that you remain anonymous name change frequently and don't post identifying details about your DH's enlarged testicle.

thebewilderness I would suggest that the chances of 1, 10 or 100 visitors from angels stopping you from making full use of your right to free speech on here is nil.

thebewilderness Mon 23-Apr-18 21:44:20

ReluctantCamper
You probably will not be surprised that I do not care what you think about this method of shutting down Feminist Forums that has been so successful in the past.

ReluctantCamper Mon 23-Apr-18 21:46:59

If we can't stand up to a little opposition then what's the point of us?

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