The Angels Forum

[Nextloorejext]

This trans forum has a long thread on Mumsnet. Seems they are actively lobbying companies to pull out advertising on Mn on the grounds of Mn allowing/supporting/encouraging hate and transphobia. After having a quck look, the Angels site seems to spout it’s on views on “terfs” which sound pretty hateful, possibly even misogynistic. I know both sides if the debate can go over the top and get pretty nasty - but, am i wrong to find many pisters there completely hypocritical in targetting Mn for the kind of comments and rhetoric similar to which they are accusing Mn of, not only accusing but trying to damage the site with haranguing the sites advertisers to pull out.

[Rufustheconstantreindeer]

don't post identifying details about your DH's enlarged testicle

He doesn't have one but i might start the rumour

[Greymisty]

Rufus I might make up a DH just so I can start a rumour about his enlarged scrotum.

[Rufustheconstantreindeer]

We should do it together grey and see how far it gets

[Nextloorejext]

“That was surely sarcasm, not a serious post?”

Yes, that was sarcasm - they are happy to target mumsnets advertisers though - telling them how nasty and transphobic we are - whilst saying a lot of iffy stuff regarding womrn themselves - of course they think ssying “tetf” makes it legit.

[spontaneousgiventime]

Oh they love 'Terfs' "The Group Of Women Who Harass Me More Than Men" - yup, it's TERFs

[Greymisty]

Rufus next troll thread I'm on I'll try to casually slip in about your DH's enlarged testicle (should i make it left or right btw?) If it gets screenshot by an MRA or TRA and makes twitter/angel forum....well I'm sticking it on my CV as an accomplishment

[Rufustheconstantreindeer]

Eeerrrrrr

Lets make it the right one grey

[ReluctantCamper]

disclaimer my DH does not have an enlarged testicle

[TallulahWaitingInTheRain]

It's important that anyone who fears being outed is careful not to post anything identifying.

But beyond that, I think the more of this conversation that's conducted in public the better. That way everyone can see what is really being said and by whom. We don't have anything to be ashamed of.

[Rufustheconstantreindeer]

reluctant thats not what i read

But i will stop joking now as I appreciate im derailing

I really don't want to look at other forums...i have enough bother keeping up with this one

[ReluctantCamper]

having advocated name changing I must say it confuses the hell out of me when people do it. When you think you might 'recognise' the voice of a poster by another name it's a strange feeling.

I understand why some need to do it though.

[spontaneousgiventime]

TallulahWaitingInTheRain I totally agree about posting out in the open. By doing that we prove we are not saying things we are accused of. I have no desire to post hidden away. While I keep my identity private due to concerns over TRA, I won't change my name (I like it).

[ReluctantCamper]

Yes to being in the open. The more people see this the better. No drama required, no hyperbole. the facts do the job for us.

#yesdebate

[Jayceedove]

I have screen captured nothing. I would not even know how to do it. I even had to google what it meant.

Now you see why I have stopped posting on both forums.

I only looked for common ground and understanding and found anything but.

[Greymisty]

In regards to name changing is so people cant search the poster and find identifying details? I take it just adding numbers at the end of the name so the poster is still recogniseable wouldn't be good enough?

[ReluctantCamper]

that's right Greymisty, and I admit to changing name when seeking advice about something particularly personal in the past (look, not an enlarged testicle OK?). it's good practice, like assuming all your work emails could be read by anyone in the company.

[spontaneousgiventime]

JC I don't believe you did. I think looking back with hindsight it may have been better if you had a brand new name but I know you didn't want to be duplicitous. I hope one day we see you back posting here.

[TallulahWaitingInTheRain]

Jaycee I'm sorry if you've been caught in crossfire

[ReluctantCamper]

I feel I have missed some drama here. I have always found your posts interesting and informative Jayceedove. I'm sorry if you're stepping away. We should be open to a wide range of voices and opinions.

[Rufustheconstantreindeer]

I only looked for common ground and understanding and found anything but

Lots of people on here have a lot of time for you

You persisted and earnt respect

Its a shame you can't see that

[Jayceedove]

Rufus, I can see that. And I do appreciate it.

[Rufustheconstantreindeer]

Oh good jaycee

[Greymisty]

Jayceedove - I'm sorry your experience on MN has been like that. I've always noted your name and paid attention to your posts and I'm sorry if I've never reached out to express that.

[Greymisty]

Reluctant I've searched my name, I might be paranoid because I know it's me so I recognise myself (obviously) but I've always kept reasonably vague. I shall try to remain reasonably vague...

[thebewilderness]

Now you see why I have stopped posting on both forums.

And yet, here you are.
IIRC what you admitted to was talking there about what was said here. I apologize for saying you screen capped when I have no proof of what you did in their private chat, and you did not admit to that.
Let's not make this all about you, JC.
It is a much broader problem now and I should have left it alone.