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Another Novichok Poisoning?

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TokyoSushi · 04/07/2018 21:57

Just breaking news now, how awful, I wonder how on Earth it's happening?

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AuntieStella · 04/07/2018 22:03

The 'breaking news' that just popped up for me:

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-44719639

And from earlier today: Amesbury: Two collapse near Russian spy poisoning site

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-wiltshire-44707052

It's baffling, why now? And why two together (again)?

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PaintBySticker · 04/07/2018 22:03

Could these second people be the people who poisoned the Skripals?

I have no reason to think this except that if they are just an ‘ordinary British couple’ how on earth did they come in contact with the same nerve agent all these months later?

Whatever the circumstances I hope they recover.

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TokyoSushi · 04/07/2018 22:05

I suppose it's possible Paint, what a terrible and completely unexpected thing to happen.

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Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 04/07/2018 22:06

I can only assume they had the misfortune to come into contact with the place where the original poison was assembled/stored.

I can't get my head round the idea of wanting to poison another human being, but having said that, it seems particularly reckless to do it in such a way that people who have absolutely nothing to do with the target are also at risk. Maybe that's part of Putin's aim, to cause widespread panic and alarm?

I hope they're OK. Salisbury Hospital did wonders with the Skripals.

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AmazingGrace16 · 04/07/2018 22:07

It's just awful.
There's definitely more to the story than what we know

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TokyoSushi · 04/07/2018 22:10

Yes I'm sure, the BBC news seems to be going along the lines that they've somehow come into contact with 'leftover' nerve agent from the March attack.

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Pinkgeorge · 04/07/2018 22:10

It’s vrry worrying

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MissCherryCakeyBun · 04/07/2018 22:12

They have just moved into the property it seems.....so maybe it's rented and the previous people may have been the perpetrators of the original poisoning?

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PaintBySticker · 04/07/2018 22:13

MissCherry - that certainly sounds feasible.

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TokyoSushi · 04/07/2018 22:13

Yes that could be true MissCherry

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Heratnumber7 · 04/07/2018 22:19

We reckon they are secret agents

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TokyoSushi · 04/07/2018 22:24

OhYouBadBadKitten was very knowledgable on the last thread and another poster who maybe had a scientific background was fascinating although I've forgotten their name Blush

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gluteustothemaximus · 04/07/2018 22:27

I raised up the old thread, as I couldn't find a thread on it all day (and then I find two at once just now..)

Since this morning, I have been thinking 'what the fuck is going on!'

I'm still no closer to an answer.

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ElizabethG81 · 04/07/2018 22:28

The BBC showed some footage from someone's mobile phone, which was supposedly of the scene outside the couple's house when one of them was taken to hospital on Saturday. There were police, a fire engine and a large cordoned off area. Yet the official line is that they thought the couple had OD'd on heroin or crack cocaine until the past couple of days. Seems bizarre that there'd be that kind of emergency service response for a suspected heroin overdose....

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TokyoSushi · 04/07/2018 22:29

Me neither. I can't believe it would be another, separate attack, just the same as in March, they must be connected somehow, either accidentally or the more sinister option of being on purpose for some reason.

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TokyoSushi · 04/07/2018 22:30

Yes I agree Elizabeth, I think they must have known about this for a few days.

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gluteustothemaximus · 04/07/2018 22:34

Yes Elizabeth, they knew. And as always, they choose when and what they say to us.

But don't worry everyone, there's no risk to the wider public, and if there is, just get your baby wipes out Hmm

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OhYouBadBadKitten · 04/07/2018 22:38

There's been a v. slow thread going www.mumsnet.com/Talk/in_the_news/3296465-salisbury-two-in-critical-condition

It's been surprisingly quiet.

I'll dig out the thread from 4 months ago. I wouldn't say I was knowledgable though Blush

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OhYouBadBadKitten · 04/07/2018 22:39
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OhYouBadBadKitten · 04/07/2018 22:41

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/in_the_news/3217649-Poisoning-of-Sergei-and-Yulia-Skripal-part-2 thread 2.

Incidentally, on these kind of threads I always put the full thread title in visibly so that people can check they aren't being taken to dodgy sources.

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RunMummyRun68 · 04/07/2018 22:43

How long have they been in that house?

Could find loads of info on the woman, not so much the man though

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TokyoSushi · 04/07/2018 22:47

Hello OYBBK! If not knowledgeable then at least far, far better at organising these threads than me! #Imisssnowwatch

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OhYouBadBadKitten · 04/07/2018 22:50

lol! Snow watch may be a little while Grin

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PrincessFiorimonde · 04/07/2018 22:58

They have just moved into the property it seems.....so maybe it's rented and the previous people may have been the perpetrators of the original poisoning?

I believe they'd moved in to a newly built estate.

BBC Newsight reporting the couple may have come in contact with the novichok where it was discarded after the Skripal attack.

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meditrina · 04/07/2018 23:04

If they came into contact with it some time ago (either when they first moved in, or in after first attack but before decontamination of affected areas), why is it now that they became symptomatic?

I never understood why the Skripals keeled over at the same time, if their exposure was on the door knob that they had touched some hours before.

Can delayed onset be a feature of this type os agent? Or can it be part of a binary weapon - does exposure to part 1 (a la doorknob) prime you to keel over when you come in to contact with part 2 - which might be an everyday chemical.

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