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Atypicalmumm · 25/04/2024 08:36

Hi, I wondered if anyone has some advice. My son is nearly 3, when he was born we brought a house that needed fully renovating and took up all of our money, it was incredibly hard and the worst time of my life. I had to go back to work full time when he was 9 months old to be able to earn enough money for us to survive. Trouble is I didn’t have enough money to also put him into pre school. My work made it clear I couldn’t wfh with him and I’ve been doing it without them knowing, apart from that in September I did put him in two mornings a week into pre school as this is all I can afford. As well as going into the office twice a week, that’s the best I could do. Now he can get 15 hours free but his pre school have no extra hours for him.
its been really difficult but I’ve managed so far, just the fact it’s made me totally miserable and I cry every day. Because the guilt and jealousy I see of all my friends who don’t work because they get benefits and I’m not entitled to any, because I have a mortgage. I feel like my son is behind in his speech because of me, I feel like he watches too much Tv because of me and my working I can’t take him out apart from at the weekends. My work monitor my work and when I’m away from my laptop and I’ve been pulled up recently about being away for too long (an hour).
Im so miserable, and angry at myself for buying the house and putting myself in this position. I feel like my sons last two years have flown by and I’ve missed half of it. I don’t know what advice I need, really I’d like to be able to go part time and maybe get benefits to make up the extra money but I can’t so I’m stuffed basically, just miserable

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GreyPoster · 01/05/2024 20:32

Covid home schooling is a WORLD away from actual homeschooling. People on here have got a lot of nerve assuming people they don’t know do things “half arsed”. Try again and show some support.

GreyPoster · 01/05/2024 20:34

chaticat · 01/05/2024 12:58

Exactly! People tried it during covid and it was horrific

Covid home schooling is a WORLD away from actual homeschooling. People on here have got a lot of nerve assuming people they don’t know do things “half arsed”. Try again and show some support.

GreyPoster · 01/05/2024 20:41

ivs · 01/05/2024 08:53

It would be halfarsed though if trying to WFH at the same time. OP is struggling to look after a child while she is meant to be working, how is home schooling a lighter task?

A lot of WFH jobs are at specific times (and if OPs wasnt, then she wouldnt have so many issues with childcare as her partner could look after the child while she works)

& also she said in reference to selling her house and travelling, not staying in that job and struggling to juggle life. I’m a strong believer that people are capable of living their life differently than the norm if they want to & equally able to raise and provide education for their children in ways out of the same old life timeline we seem to choose in the UK.

ivs · 01/05/2024 21:49

GreyPoster · 01/05/2024 20:41

& also she said in reference to selling her house and travelling, not staying in that job and struggling to juggle life. I’m a strong believer that people are capable of living their life differently than the norm if they want to & equally able to raise and provide education for their children in ways out of the same old life timeline we seem to choose in the UK.

Sure, travelling and home schooling is a world away from wfh and home schooling, no one is arguing with that.

It's trying to hold a full time job and home schooling is half arsed for both

HazeyGazey · 01/05/2024 23:47

Doone22 · 29/04/2024 18:01

If all your mates are benefit scroungers why the hell are they not offering free childcare?
I think you need new house, job and friends.
WFH where you are constantly monitored is a bit shit too. You're not a toddler. Get a mouse mover to give you enough time for your breaks at least.
Are work childcare vouchers still a thing?
Look for a better job and move away from London.?

Pretty nasty calling people you know nothing about 'benefit scroungers'

HazeyGazey · 01/05/2024 23:52

Could any of your sahm friends help you out for a few months? Maybe have your little one during the day in exchange for you babysitting in return on a weekend night? Do any of your friends have a sensible teenager who could child mind for a few quid while you're in the next room?

Definitely try the Entitled to website. You might qaulify for some help with childcare costs. If no nursery places are available, you can use your 30 hrs for a childminder

stichguru · 02/05/2024 20:10

I'm sorry but what you are doing is wrong and it's breaking you by the sounds. I think find a preschool or childminder that gives you the 15 free hours, then reduced your work hours to match what you can afford childcare wise above 15 hours.

newmumabouttown · 03/05/2024 06:16

treacledan71 · 30/04/2024 06:43

My colleague told me they put a credit card in their keyboard and looks like working. Not sure if works. I do a mixture of wfh and office but luckily my son a teenager. This is not a go at you but was telling a colleague who was moaning to me she had to come in the office an extra day one week as i had to put a big meeting in and the only date we could find, and the trauma of not getting her kid from school that day. She had grandparent cover. Imagine, what it was like pre lock down. Lots of people had to go in every day and sort childcare. Seemed to be more spaces then though as wasn't so many free hours. Hope you get sorted. X

Edited

Your friend wanting to prove the assumption that people who work from home don’t work?

chaticat · 03/05/2024 06:55

GreyPoster · 01/05/2024 20:41

& also she said in reference to selling her house and travelling, not staying in that job and struggling to juggle life. I’m a strong believer that people are capable of living their life differently than the norm if they want to & equally able to raise and provide education for their children in ways out of the same old life timeline we seem to choose in the UK.

Yes of course sorry I might have got my wires crossed.

Greeneyegirl · 03/05/2024 10:13

Winter2020 · 30/04/2024 20:47

Just in relation to the trips to the zoo etc an annual pass is often available for 2-3 times the price of one visit so people often choose one attraction and visit it lots for "free" after buying the pass. Under 3s usually free so for e.g. could be £100 for one adult annual pass for a years worth of zoo visits. The following year if you are bored of the zoo get an annual pass for a different attraction - farm park etc.

If you shop at tesco you can also save your vouchers to use for days out or meals out and get multiple times the face value towards these.

This has got to be a joke surely? Luckily I do have an annual pass to a local farm and activity centre because my mum bought it for my babies birthday (she's under 3 so goes free and it's for 2 adults so that's great). But suggesting I just buy an annual pass for £100...I don't have £100 left of a month to buy a pass.

Ditto shopping at Tesco. That seems absolutely insane to me that people can afford to not shop at Lidl or Aldi. I can't be spending hundreds of pounds at Tesco when I'm scraping pounds together to shop at Aldi.

Nosleeptraininghere · 03/05/2024 12:59

NewName24 · 29/04/2024 23:07

WFH where you are constantly monitored is a bit shit too. You're not a toddler.

No, she is an employee who is taking money from her employer to work full time, when clearly she isn't doing that, and hasn't been doing it for a long time. That is what I would call 'a bit shit', not the people paying her actually expecting to earn their salary.

Sorry @Atypicalmumm , that wasn't intended as a dig at you, but attitudes like @Doone22 's set back the opportunities for people to be able to wfh so much. It is no wonder some employers have chosen to monitor how much work people are doing, when people are clearly defrauding them. To then call the employers 'shit' is a very weird way of thinking.

@Atypicalmumm - I agree with the suggestions above about getting on waiting lists for all the local Nurseries. About also being proactive with following up with enquiries, as people do leave for various reasons.
Also to check for sure if you aren't entitled to anything - pp has kindly posted links.
Also, make sure you are on top of the hours you are entitled to at Nursery, if you are both working FT.
Then, speak to your mortgage lender. You say you have £100K equity and your dc will start school in 16months time. See if you can either pay interest only for 16months, or extend the term of your mortgage so the monthly payments come down.

You make some good points about employers, but there also has to be a balance. A lot of people who have professional careers don’t just work 9-5. If I took 1 hour away from my desk, nobody would notice (or care!) because I have a career where it’s expected that you work as required, to get the job done. This works both ways - there has to be trust.

If OP is working later on for example (I suspect she isn’t, but I want to make this point anyway), after the child goes to bed, what’s the issue if she is away from her desk for 1 hour during the day?

Wfh has to be about trust on BOTH sides. I agree that it sounds like OP can’t be trusted, but I think it’s unfair to say that employers should be entitled to behave this way in every circumstance, as a lot of roles are of a nature that cannot be constantly monitored.

shepherdsangeldelight · 03/05/2024 13:54

If OP is working later on for example (I suspect she isn’t, but I want to make this point anyway), after the child goes to bed, what’s the issue if she is away from her desk for 1 hour during the day?

A lot of jobs expect you to be available for certain hours. If (for example) you are available for clients, then it's not good being available after working hours. If you need to have meetings with colleagues, then you can't have those meetings if you are all randomly choosing the hours you want to work.

On the basis that OP is knowingly looking after a toddler despite it being against her company's polices, it's hard to make the case her company should trust her.

Grammarnut · 03/05/2024 14:13

GreyPoster · 01/05/2024 20:34

Covid home schooling is a WORLD away from actual homeschooling. People on here have got a lot of nerve assuming people they don’t know do things “half arsed”. Try again and show some support.

I agree. Real home-schooling is a full-time commitment and involves hands-on teaching as well a paying for tutors for appropriate subjects, but there is great support from Education Otherwise, which links up home-schoolers.

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