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Super-sensitive new colleague: how to manage

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GustyFinknottle · 14/09/2023 21:07

I work in a sales and marketing team for a small company that doesn't have in-house HR. My manager has been on sick leave for five weeks and I, being the oldest and longest-serving member of the department, have been instructed to deal with this situation as best I can by my manager's manager (who is the company director/ owner).

Before he went off sick my manager recruited a young woman (a recent graduate) to work as an assistant. She's very conscientious and she seems super-sensitive about what I and my fellow colleagues would regard as normal work exchanges and feedback. It's a fairly relaxed environment and we understand that it takes a while to learn the systems and don't expect her to get everything right all the time.

Part of her work involves updating product specs. I was wfh a couple of weeks ago and couldn't find the updated version of a file I knew she'd been working on, so I emailed her saying 'Hi, I'm looking for the latest version of the XYZ file. Are you still working on it?' She responded that she had completed the task and uploaded the file. I took another look, still couldn't find it, so emailed asking her to double-check it was completed and she'd uploaded it. She said she had. It turned out, when I searched for it, that she'd accidentally changed the title and put it in the wrong folder. I called her to say I'd found it, told her what had happened and suggested it was something to look out for in the future. I assured her that it's still early days and that we've all done similar things. We laughed at how easy it was to do and that was that.

The following day I received an email telling me she felt I owed her an apology because I had accused her of not completing the work when she said she had. I responded in writing saying that I was sorry that was how she'd understood my words, but there was no accusation intended, I was just trying to work out where the file was. She came back saying she still thought I ought to apologise. I sat down with a cup of tea, wondered wtf was going on, gave it some thought and responded via email asking how how she'd like me to approach her in the future if something like this happened again. Her response was that if she tells me she's done something I need to trust that she has and not accuse her of lying, which she felt I had by asked her to double-check. She again asked for an apology in writing. I said I was sorry that she felt I was accusing her of not having completed the task and that seemed to satisfy her, but it was such a bizarre exchange that I haven't been able to relax around her since.

I thought I was the only one, but apparently something similar has been going on with two other colleagues. They've both been asked to apologise for the kind of functional communications that go on in every office I've worked in. They're both decent people who feel quite offended by her accusations. They've asked me to talk to her and have made it clear they feel that working with her is going to be a challenge. She is in week nine of a three month probationary period and this needs to be dealt with before the end of probation. My manager is off sick. I've asked the director for permission to involve the HR consultant and I'm waiting for a response, but I'd like to have a conversation with her in the next few days in order to put down a marker and then work out where to go from there.

Has anyone encountered anything like this? Is this a generational thing? I'm in my 50s, my other colleagues are at least 15 years older than her. Our adult children aren't like this but is this the new normal?

I was wondering about asking her if she was enjoying working here and seeing what she has to say. Would it be acceptable to say that I get the impression, from some of her communications with me and others, that she doesn't seem comfortable with the way our team communicates, and that's something she needs to work on? This is a pleasant place to work, everyone in the is pretty reasonable and good at what they do and we've been a good — and effective — team. Is it appropriate to alert her that being able to work comfortably with other team members, in an established office culture, is vital? That being able to handle reasonable requests and feedback from colleagues is all part of the job?

OP posts:
CherryMaDeara · 20/09/2023 21:37

What a relief! If she's got 3 months pay for not working then she's done well out of it.

Well done OP!

GustyFinknottle · 20/09/2023 21:39

Clymene · 20/09/2023 21:18

Well done you. Horrible experience for you but her response has confirmed you were absolutely right to let her go. Pity the next poor sods who take her on.

Re the replacement, now you know what you're NOT looking for, it should be easier to find the right person. There are lots of great young people out there, despite all the horror stories! We have a graduate trainee and two apprentices working with our team at the moment and they’re an absolute joy

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Yes, I know a number of really great young people and would love to be able to offer someone young a chance. It's not exactly thrilling work, but there's a decent team here, we work well and I think we could offer a good first-job experience to the right person. Unfortunately being a small company we just don't have the ability to absorb someone who can't work well with others. There's a degree of flexibility required that wouldn't be in a large organisation.

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Deckchair1009 · 20/09/2023 21:40

Well done, OP. It’s never nice dismissing someone, but much better than the alternatives! Hopefully she’ll learn from this…

TogetherWeLearn · 20/09/2023 21:54

Phew! Horrible to have to do but you have saved yourself future work pain! Likewise hopefully she will move onto a role / team better suited to her.
It's worse if they beg for another chance/ say they will change etc...

Clymene · 20/09/2023 22:02

Even in large organisations you are usually part of a smaller team @GustyFinknottle. I do agree though that it's easier to push people around to be someone else's problem.

You may not feel like you're cut out for management but I think your decisive action says otherwise Grin

Puzzledandpissedoff · 20/09/2023 22:11

Well done, OP, and a nice touch to clear the office so she didn't have to empty her desk in front of others

Hopefully she'll learn from this - though the threats of solicitors doesn't exactly sound that way - but at least she's not your problem any more

HelplessSoul · 21/09/2023 05:18

Her solicitor, if she even fucking has one, will have no leg to stand on. She's been there less than 2 years and has no recourse to jack shit.

Good riddance and well done OP! :)

HermioneWeasley · 21/09/2023 07:09

Well done. Never easy but the right thing for everyone. She’s also very very lucky to get 3 months pay

Gloxinia · 21/09/2023 08:44

It was the right choice. Demanding apologies was ridiculous

ErniesGhostlyGoldTops · 21/09/2023 08:51

Any solicotor would laugh her out of the door

Megifer · 21/09/2023 09:05

Her solicitor 🤣🤣🤣 they will rub their hands in glee at being able to charge her at least £250 just to tell her she has no case. Bless.

TenderDandelions · 21/09/2023 09:23

I said she wouldn't go quietly! Hopefully her "solicitor" will point out that you've done nothing wrong and you'll never hear from her again.

Keep an eye out on social media though - she sounds the type to slag off you/the company to whoever will listen.

FartSock5000 · 21/09/2023 09:49

Sack her. You don't need a reason while in probationary period.

She isn't a good fit for your office culture. She creates an antagonistic, negative working environment.

As a trainee, she should be focused on learning and taking on feedback not on being right. Her attitude stinks and she won't get better.

DancingFerret · 21/09/2023 09:55

FartSock5000 · 21/09/2023 09:49

Sack her. You don't need a reason while in probationary period.

She isn't a good fit for your office culture. She creates an antagonistic, negative working environment.

As a trainee, she should be focused on learning and taking on feedback not on being right. Her attitude stinks and she won't get better.

Did you read anything other than the OP?

JohnnyYenSetHimselfOnFireAgain · 21/09/2023 11:08

Fantastic, that's a massive headache gone. Must be a huge relief. Ironically, her reactions to it only serve to confirm how right you are about her. Good riddance! Cheers! 🍻

mrsmamoa · 21/09/2023 12:12

ditalini · 14/09/2023 21:20

Did you point out to her that by renaming the file and then putting it in the wrong place, she hadn't actually completed the task as asked?

@GustyFinknottle this is a valid point.

mrsmamoa · 21/09/2023 12:13

Ignore me. 😝

sthisbest · 21/09/2023 13:44

HelplessSoul · 21/09/2023 05:18

Her solicitor, if she even fucking has one, will have no leg to stand on. She's been there less than 2 years and has no recourse to jack shit.

Good riddance and well done OP! :)

True unless she claims some kind of 'discrimination' for which the 2 year does not apply. It is very hard to bring and win a case though.

MargotBamborough · 21/09/2023 15:00

sthisbest · 21/09/2023 13:44

True unless she claims some kind of 'discrimination' for which the 2 year does not apply. It is very hard to bring and win a case though.

I don't think being a snowflake is a protected characteristic.

HelplessSoul · 21/09/2023 16:35

sthisbest · 21/09/2023 13:44

True unless she claims some kind of 'discrimination' for which the 2 year does not apply. It is very hard to bring and win a case though.

Pretty evident from the OP's musings that the discrimination aspect does not feature.

And even if it did, its also evident the now removed employee was too fucking stupid to raise/document it at the time - a major prerequisite for it to be considered as such.

As said, she has recourse to jack shit.

Gonners · 21/09/2023 17:21

Also she was within the 3-month probation period.

Chez50 · 21/09/2023 17:21

Hi, could you please explain what you mean by it's easier to push people around to be someone else's problem

ImCamembertTheBigCheese · 21/09/2023 19:09

Great news OP.

Querypost · 22/09/2023 09:52

The company was extremely generous to pay her for the whole 3 month period. I'd like to think the money would have been better spent treating the existing team rather than unnecessarily paying off such a horrible little madam. I'd have paid her for her time worked but not a cent more.

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