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So working mums (part time or otherwise), how do you cope with the guilt?

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charmkin · 24/04/2007 12:59

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Hulababy · 24/04/2007 21:29

I don't feel guilty about working part time at all, never have done. I chose DD's nursery (and now school) with great care and have always been very happy with the care she got there. She thrived in nursery and had a great time, right from the start at 5 months up until leaving nursery aged 4y5m. I had/have nothing to be guilty for!

lucy5 · 24/04/2007 21:30

I actually couldn't cope with the guilt and jacked my job in. There were other mitigating circumstances , which I won't bore you with. When I weighed it up for a stresful job the level of guilt wasn't worth it.

lucy5 · 24/04/2007 21:31

I was working full time by the way.

2cheekymonkeys · 24/04/2007 21:34

I only work on Saturdays and leave dp to cope with the chaos of ds1 and ds2. it's always a relief to get away for a bit so i feel no guilt. when i worked two weekdays i felt guilt at leaving them in the care of people who weren't family.

DaphneHarvey · 24/04/2007 21:44

I don't feel guilt, I feel absolute glee as I run off to my 2 or 3 days a week part-time job. Have been full time SAHM until recently with DD (6) and DS (3.5). When I'm at work, they're either with their Dad or much-loved child minder or after-school carer. I just feel incredibly lucky.

If I was working full time and always had been, even when they were babies, I might have felt guilty. But then again - what's the point in that? I'd only have done so if I'd had no choice. So would have had a stern talking-to with myself if I'd felt guilty - how would that have helped anyone?

MaloryTowers · 24/04/2007 21:46

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pointydog · 24/04/2007 21:46

"No guilt- except when one of the boys is ill and I'm trying to manage them and work."

rebel, I think that is exactly the sort of thing that does cause guilt, though. If employers are not flexible, hours are not flexible, you and dh really cannot afford to miss work, no family to take on sick child or child's appointment, feeling bad that there's a chance you are not able to put your child's needs first...

Course there's abit of guilt - or a feeling very similar to guilt - when that sort of thing happens.

And as charmkin says, also if close family object to working mothers.

DaphneHarvey · 24/04/2007 21:53

If I'd regularly faked work committments to skive off Sports Day or Assembly I might feel guilty. But, it seems, its perfectly alright to defend that stance too!

My DH had until recently a high powered job in a horribly macho and cut throat industry. He was in charge of a team of 20 who were all at least 10 years younger than him, mainly without children. Certainly not school-age children. But he always seemed to manage to find an hour or two for assemblies, nativities etc.

If you can't even manage that for your DCs then yes, perhaps a pinch of guilt is called for.

bosscat · 24/04/2007 21:56

No guilt here either. I'm confident in the decisions I've made for me and my family. I am not wasting my life comparing myself to others and worrying about decisions I've made. We need my salary, I love my job, I worked hard to have qualifications, I paid my dues to command a decent salary, my children are happy and healthy. What's to feel guilty about? I do not look at other women and feel inferior to them because they are at home more hours of the day than I am. I know the hours of the day I am are happy, productive and loving.Why should women feel shame in providing for their family?

moondog · 24/04/2007 21:58

Guilt about what?
That I love my job?
That I am using my brain?
That I get to mix with intelligent and interesting people?

Er..no.

BirdyArms · 24/04/2007 22:03

Charmkin - I think you could be right about your childcare being guilt-inducing. The only person who makes me feel guilty about working is my mum who strongly believes that a mother's place is in the home (as does my MIL but she is sensible enough not to say anything to me but has to dh). I guess they are just a different generation, however I remember thinking when I was secondary school age, that my mum did nothing all day. Obviously I realise that she was busy making our dinner etc, she wouldn't dream of mumsetting all day , but I think it sets a good example to children to see their parents go out to work.

choosyfloosy · 24/04/2007 22:10

Yes I feel guilty. If I listed everything I felt guilty about, this post would go on for ever. but that's [my] life. every day since i was about 11, every action i take is in order to reduce the guilt level from intolerable to tolerable.

guilt levels weren't much better when I was on maternity leave, just like vitomum I used to get grumpy and ignore ds and feel like loathsome scum. money was a problem despite dh earning a good wage. I feel better off now that we earn about the same, even though our household income is about a quarter of what we earned then.

FloatingOnTheMed · 24/04/2007 22:56

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gtimama · 24/04/2007 22:59

I don't feel at all guilty about working. I work part time so that I can be with the children when they finish school. But I have to work. I am single now and it is a necessity. I don't feel guilty and in fact I feel quite proud.

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PeachesMcLean · 24/04/2007 23:01

No guilt. DS has always loved nursery / school. I get to stay sane. Who looses?

Judy1234 · 25/04/2007 07:51

I'm enouraged by the lack of guilt. I always thought I must have some kind of male genes so as not often to feel guilt other mothers apparently have but perhaps this guilt thing is just made up yet again by the press to try to make women feel bad. A lot of female journalists and columnists gave up full time jobs and do bits of writing so gave up on their aim to edit the FT or whatever to write articles about fairly meaningless subjects in and around their child's naps etc therefore they need to justify their life and choice by inventing this guilt stuff.

When we get to a point, as we may now have reached where men and women are choosing neutrally whether to work or not without thinking if a father or mother works the child emotionally suffers then we get a measure of equality between men and women and perhaps this thread shows we have made some good progress there.

On a daily basis we are all torn whether we have children or not between doing the garden, nursing the old relatives, seeing friends or working late but that's just normal managing your life. Some people worry all the time about everything and others just get on with things.

prettybird · 25/04/2007 09:10

I think childcare and postive exemplars also have a bearing on whether or not you feel good. I totally agree with SofiaAmes when she says she'd kill the children if she stayed at home and the positive example she had of her own working mother.

My mother always worked (or was a full time student when I was very wee) - and I never felt neglected. In fact I never saw it as "my mother works", I saw it as "my parents work" - why should my mum be different to my dad? As I said at my first interview at ICI on the milk round, when they, in a roundabout way, asked an illegal question (which they asked both sexes to get around it): my view to families and how that might impact my career path was that I wold intend to continue working as my mum had alwways worked and I reckoned I'd been brought up pretty well and was pretty well adjusted"

Childcare is also important: I had fantastic childcare with a childminder literally in the house next door. Ds was really happy going there: going in wiothout a backward glance but delighted to see me in the evening.

Now that ds is at school, juglling could have been more difficult, but dh is currently studying and starting to set up a business, so therefor at home, so is able to pick up most of the everyday getting to/from school typoe issues. Ican do them if he is away on a course, as there is a good breakfact club and after school club, and my SIL will pick him/keep him overnight if I need to do any business trips, but it does make things much easier if dh does them.

I do sometimes feel a wee bit jealous (which is not the same as guilt) about the extra time dh gets with ds - but most of the time it is the "dross" stuff he has to do with him - getting his school stuff ready, sorting out issues with the school etc. And it was a joint decision for me to work, to give dh the freedom to follow his dream of a career in wine.

prettybird · 25/04/2007 09:22

I hadn't read Xenia's last post before positng: I agree with her last para about juggling - that's just an ordinary part of juggling life. At the moment, I am spending even less time with both dh and ds, as I am having to see my mum in hospital every day. Dh is almost having to funcition as a single dad. But as he says - that's just what you have to do sometimes.

FloatingOnTheMed · 25/04/2007 10:26

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Judy1234 · 25/04/2007 12:14

Good points. I don't think I ever consistently left a child screaming so never had that. I think when I was 22 and returned to work I also had very strong political views that women should work which might have overrode any residual guilt. I would even at that age have found it extradordinary that this was any kind of female issue as children have two parents and fathers "abandon" children to work as much as mothers.

Now in year 22 of mothering I think you see the end product and can understand that the working or not working thing doesn't damage them. I woudl have been more concerned about whether my divorce would have damaged them than working.

Anna8888 · 25/04/2007 12:32

Floating - I'm a SAHM and I read this thread yesterday and I just thought it wasn't worth commenting on.

I agree with Xenia - life is full of choices and prioritising and you just have to get on with the choices you make rather than agonising with guilt.

I wouldn't have felt GUILTY working, I would have felt terribly, terribly sad that I was missing out on my daughter's babyhood. So I stayed at home.

Cashncarry · 25/04/2007 12:34
Judy1234 · 25/04/2007 12:56

I am delighted to have missed all that terribly boring stuff and seen more than enough of their babyhood in a few hours a day. There's only so many hours a day you can have fun watching a baby be sick over its clothes etc.

lucyellensmum · 25/04/2007 12:57

Anna, that is how i feel, i would feel so desperately sad that i missed out on my dd younger years. BUT I FEEL MORE GUILTY FOR NOT WORKING THAN I DO IF I WERE TO WORK, WOMEN JUST CAN'T WINE IMO