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Sexism/Racism/other issues in the Green party England & Wales - Discussion Thread 4

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fromorbit · 06/10/2026 06:23

RedToothBrush · Yesterday 20:39

We are going to need at least another 40 pages about this shit show of an anti-Semitic woman hating party...

We started these threads back in May 2025. It keeps getting worse.

You know when you watch a drama and it starts by being comic, then gets darker and darker. The threads started with the rise of Zack Polanski aka Hypno Boobs, Water Titty, ZPy before he became leader watching as he got elected in September 2, 2025.

The Hypnoboobs scandal was of course kind of funny, but what was very revealing was his attempt to paint it as a plot by the media against him. It was gradually revealed he used the drama to his advantage to advertise his business and he did claim to have weird powers over boobs from BBC footage.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn9enygvezeo

It wasn't just he lied. humans and especially politicians do that. It is rather he refused to take responsibility, and ducked out. He has kept doing it again and again. Exaggerations and lies over claiming support from charities, ducking out of paying taxes, talking over women saying they don't deserve sports or any spaces, about why he swapped from Lib Dem to being Green . It is all very similar to the way many behave particularly blokes from other political parties.

Now the crazy anti Semitism within the party has been growing and ZP has failed to stop it. He did try to block it behind the scenes, but was very reluctant to face it head on. This cumulated in the Greens Conference 2006, when ZP failed to fight against the racist anti-Zionist motion in person. Instead he went to campaign in London for the byelection. Meanwhile guess what the fight back was lead mostly by 4 of the 5 Green MPs, mostly women.

Looking back at the last thread the horror is everything we predicted has come to pass. This is what headed the last thread in May 2006.
Now in the last week or so after a longstanding spate of anti-Semitic rhetoric from some Greens during the election campaign and ZP downplaying it. We have synagogues, schools, ambulances attacked, two Jewish people dead and ZP berating unarmed police for risking their lives in fighting a violent killer who was still armed with a knife things have come to a crisis point.
The Greens are becoming ever more sinister with dozens of candidates sounding like they are seventies NF supporters with comments about uppity women and Jewish power.

The October Conference 2026 was as dark as predicted. The racism was crazy. They banned the words mum and dad. Apparently women have to dress modestly to win Muslim votes. Not only was Green's Women's Declaration banned, but some Greens have now decided that women's biology is so icky they protest talks about it.
https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-16181937/Trans-Green-women-event-female-health.html

Besides ZPy, we also have documented Mothin Ali as deputy Leader who clearly doesn't believe in trans thinking, but cleverly sidesteps round talking about it. He has always had a issues with encouraging racist violence and one look at his wife shows what he thinks about women. He is also a landlord in a party which is supposedly anti landlord. Ali has been very loud talking about how bad racism is, but also loves being racist.

The other deputy leader Rachel Millward represents the posh rich faction of the Greens who manages to sounded like Reform when opposing Asylum Seekers in her area, but at the same time saying we are too harsh on immigrants in general. Obviously she also doesn't believe women are a thing. She also is a landlord as well, or rather her partner is. Yet she is the least crazy when violence and racism is concerned compared to ZP, and Mothin.

All of these people are up for re-election in 2027. The drama will be epic.

The media is paying increasing attention to what Mumsnet have been noting for ages. Mumsnet was there during the Challenor scandal which showed how awful the Greens anti-women rhetoric could be.

The Greens control Bristol where they face legal action from women for trying to silence them
https://www.localgovernmentlawyer.co.uk/governance/396-governance-news/99477-gender-critical-campaigners-launch-judicial-review-proceedings-over-council-chamber-ban

Their sexist nonsense has also raised protests in Hackney under the control of Zoe Garbbett with effigies of Andy Burnham being burned.
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5527195-zoe-garbett-green-mayor-for-hackney?page=1

Women being silenced in Green controlled Haringey
https://www.gbnews.com/news/trans-row-activists-heckle-abuse-labour-councillor

The fight back from Green Women's Declaration, https://www.greenwomensdeclaration.uk/ continues and they are now taking the Greens to court for banning them from the conference twice for being women. The court cases against GPEW from Emma Bateman and Shahrar Ali are developing, both getting through legal delaying tactics as they move to trial. Gardening is needed. These cases if successful could be dramatic in their impact.

First thread - where you can follow the rise of ZP and lots of other scandal May 2025
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5328986-greens-internal-drama-warms-up

Second Thread:
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5456759-sexismother-issues-in-the-green-party-england-wales-discussion-thread-2?

Third thread - the run up to the Greens Conference in October 2026
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5524462-sexismother-issues-in-the-green-party-england-wales-discussion-thread-3

Note the Scottish Greens which are a separate party to the Green Party England/Wales have their own thread for all their sexist/racist drama. They split off because GPEW didn't hate biology and women/gays enough at the time.
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5313420-scottish-greens-being-sexist-again?page=1

Zack Polanski, in white open necked shirt and dark jacket, addresses a Green Party rally, with microphone in hand

Zack Polanski stood by breast enlargment hypnosis claim

A newly unearthed interview from 2013 casts doubt on the Green Party leader's claim to have apologised.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn9enygvezeo

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TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 22/10/2026 21:41

Thanks for the link, there mostly deviants aren't they, they're fiddling with themselves while Rome burns. 🤮

borntobequiet · 22/10/2026 21:55

nicepotoftea · 22/10/2026 21:18

They are bonkers. And sex obsessed, even if they don’t believe in it. Creepy as fuck.

Lalgarh · 22/10/2026 22:31

Sex People!

So this a handy way for polygamy to be normalised. Because EMPOWERING

inkymoose · 23/10/2026 02:14

Lalgarh · 22/10/2026 22:31

Sex People!

So this a handy way for polygamy to be normalised. Because EMPOWERING

Well, it is certainly a distraction from trying to work out what to do about the climate crisis. Look over there! Something else is happening! Nothing to do with trees!

Why is it that the Green Party not only encourages the barking mad fringe special interest groups but also insists that they have a right to shape policy? The number of people wanting any kind of polyamory or polygamy must be absolutely minute.

Democracy isn't all about letting the complete loonies have their way. It is about discussing what's important and finding a way to work together, isn't it?

RedToothBrush · 23/10/2026 05:11

Democracy isn't all about letting the complete loonies have their way. It is about discussing what's important and finding a way to work together, isn't it?

Democracy is about letting everyone have their say and then reaching a consensus with the majority of people. This includes the process of telling nutjobs at the extremes, "Thanks for your contribution and opinion but on reflection you can fuck off with that absolute load of bullshit nonsense because it's ridiculous / harmful / misses the point entirely."

I like democracy.

RedToothBrush · 23/10/2026 05:16

No I don't think democracy is always about finding a way to work together with everyone. It's about building a consensus with as many people as possible. But that sometimes includes telling people that their utterly outrageous views are exactly that and don't have a place in society because they are at odds with the welfare of the majority.

Imdunfer · 23/10/2026 08:50

RedToothBrush · 23/10/2026 05:11

Democracy isn't all about letting the complete loonies have their way. It is about discussing what's important and finding a way to work together, isn't it?

Democracy is about letting everyone have their say and then reaching a consensus with the majority of people. This includes the process of telling nutjobs at the extremes, "Thanks for your contribution and opinion but on reflection you can fuck off with that absolute load of bullshit nonsense because it's ridiculous / harmful / misses the point entirely."

I like democracy.

Democracy isn't about consensus and not about a majority. It's about the biggest group.

The biggest group wins.

It's the least worst option for choosing a government.

Lalgarh · 23/10/2026 09:48

inkymoose · 23/10/2026 02:14

Well, it is certainly a distraction from trying to work out what to do about the climate crisis. Look over there! Something else is happening! Nothing to do with trees!

Why is it that the Green Party not only encourages the barking mad fringe special interest groups but also insists that they have a right to shape policy? The number of people wanting any kind of polyamory or polygamy must be absolutely minute.

Democracy isn't all about letting the complete loonies have their way. It is about discussing what's important and finding a way to work together, isn't it?

I belatedly thought: sex people. Sex People in Scotland (itself a faintly heretical notion ngl). Greens. .......

POLYCULE. Sophie Molly/ Pot noodle will be made up at this.

https://bsky.app/profile/sophiemolly.co.uk/post/3myiwtfe24k2j

Small world. It looks like it was Heather Herbert who will be speaking to support the motion.

https://bsky.app/profile/heatherherbert.uk/post/3myjdj4mu5c2n

Sexism/Racism/other issues in the Green party England & Wales - Discussion Thread 4
Sexism/Racism/other issues in the Green party England & Wales - Discussion Thread 4
nicepotoftea · 23/10/2026 10:03

I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but if I had a fracking company I would certainly not be sad that this is the state of the Green Party in the UK.

nicepotoftea · 23/10/2026 10:32

borntobequiet · 22/10/2026 21:55

They are bonkers. And sex obsessed, even if they don’t believe in it. Creepy as fuck.

I always suspect that this kind of arrangement is more about rotas than sex. Like the worst student house share.

Lalgarh · 23/10/2026 10:40

Based on the horror show pictures of the polycules domestic set up, there is no cleaning rota in that house

nicepotoftea · 23/10/2026 10:52

Lalgarh · 23/10/2026 10:40

Based on the horror show pictures of the polycules domestic set up, there is no cleaning rota in that house

That's what I am imagining.

A stained rota on a wall somewhere and everyone thinking its somebody else's responsibility to clean the loo and lots of passive aggressive notes everywhere.

Lalgarh · 23/10/2026 23:12

https://x.com/ginadavidsonlbc/status/2113583418017550433?s=46

It is a humdinger of a motion - taking in changing adultery in marriage breakdown, changes to immigration, legal rights for multiple partners inc on benefits and pensions, and a bit of getting polyamory into sex ed in schools.

#BeKind

Sexism/Racism/other issues in the Green party England & Wales - Discussion Thread 4
ArabellaScott · 24/10/2026 07:15

Lalgarh · 23/10/2026 09:48

I belatedly thought: sex people. Sex People in Scotland (itself a faintly heretical notion ngl). Greens. .......

POLYCULE. Sophie Molly/ Pot noodle will be made up at this.

https://bsky.app/profile/sophiemolly.co.uk/post/3myiwtfe24k2j

Small world. It looks like it was Heather Herbert who will be speaking to support the motion.

https://bsky.app/profile/heatherherbert.uk/post/3myjdj4mu5c2n

Oh my god. Who proposed it?!

ArabellaScott · 24/10/2026 07:17

nicepotoftea · 23/10/2026 10:03

I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but if I had a fracking company I would certainly not be sad that this is the state of the Green Party in the UK.

Its certainly occurred to me before that oil industry must be delighted that the movement threatening their hegemony has transmogrified into ... this.

ArabellaScott · 24/10/2026 07:19

The Scottish Conservatives accused the party of “bizarre political navel-gazing”

That accusation is about six inches too high up.

Lalgarh · 24/10/2026 09:19

ArabellaScott · 24/10/2026 07:15

Oh my god. Who proposed it?!

Not sure. Pot noodle has originally credited Hervert with it, but he then said he's speaking on it but didn't draft it

Documents seem to be for members only, so if there are any Scottish green members out there?

Meanwhile the deadline set by Labour for Green councillors in coalition with them in England and Wales to disown the Zionism is Racism motion nears

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c81dwz4ygz94o

The key thing isn't so much the labelling of it as racism as the call for the destruction of the state of Israel.

Green Party leader Zack Polanski

Green councillors face Labour deadline to disown Zionism policy

Green leaders have been given until Sunday to disown their party's "Zionism is racism" conference vote.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c81dwz4ygz94o

Lalgarh · 24/10/2026 09:42

Oh the Scottish poly stuff is proposed by the Greens of Colour committee

Backed by the Greens of Colour Committee, the motion warns that a lack of status causes “misunderstandings and ignorance when interacting with others, including public services”.

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/16975522/scottish-greens-mocked-polyamory-plans/

Verifying Device

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/16975522/scottish-greens-mocked-polyamory-plans

Lalgarh · 24/10/2026 12:46

A very busy man

https://archive.ph/u7P6y (Telegraph)

Polanski too ‘busy’ to support former Green leader facing activist plot
Party leader has not had time this week to defend Caroline Lucas, she says, amid hard-Left attempt to expel her

Chersfrozenface · 24/10/2026 12:48

Does Caroline Lucas now have an inkling what a load of women and Shahrar Ali have been through?

ArabellaScott · 24/10/2026 13:03

Chersfrozenface · 24/10/2026 12:48

Does Caroline Lucas now have an inkling what a load of women and Shahrar Ali have been through?

Doubt it. She identifies as being on the Right Side of History, as far as I can tell.

HenriettaSwanLeavitt2 · 24/10/2026 13:08

Lalgarh · 24/10/2026 09:42

Oh the Scottish poly stuff is proposed by the Greens of Colour committee

Backed by the Greens of Colour Committee, the motion warns that a lack of status causes “misunderstandings and ignorance when interacting with others, including public services”.

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/16975522/scottish-greens-mocked-polyamory-plans/

I know I shouldn't laugh, but 'Greens of Colour' 😂

MrPrettyDamnCosmic · 24/10/2026 13:35

Lalgarh · 24/10/2026 09:42

Oh the Scottish poly stuff is proposed by the Greens of Colour committee

Backed by the Greens of Colour Committee, the motion warns that a lack of status causes “misunderstandings and ignorance when interacting with others, including public services”.

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/16975522/scottish-greens-mocked-polyamory-plans/

I can never remember. Are we supposed to say Greens of Colour or Coloured Greens nowadays?

HenriettaSwanLeavitt2 · 24/10/2026 14:10

MrPrettyDamnCosmic · 24/10/2026 13:35

I can never remember. Are we supposed to say Greens of Colour or Coloured Greens nowadays?

I think it is Global Majority Greens now. Or Greens of the Global Majority.

inkymoose · 24/10/2026 16:04

HenriettaSwanLeavitt2 · 24/10/2026 13:08

I know I shouldn't laugh, but 'Greens of Colour' 😂

Does that imply "black greens" "brown greens" or "rainbow coloured greens"?

Making the word green do a lot of hard work there