Sexism/Racism/other issues in the Green party England & Wales - Discussion Thread 4

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RedToothBrush · Yesterday 20:39

We are going to need at least another 40 pages about this shit show of an anti-Semitic woman hating party...

We started these threads back in May 2025. It keeps getting worse.

You know when you watch a drama and it starts by being comic, then gets darker and darker. The threads started with the rise of Zack Polanski aka Hypno Boobs, Water Titty, ZPy before he became leader watching as he got elected in September 2, 2025.

The Hypnoboobs scandal was of course kind of funny, but what was very revealing was his attempt to paint it as a plot by the media against him. It was gradually revealed he used the drama to his advantage to advertise his business and he did claim to have weird powers over boobs from BBC footage.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn9enygvezeo

It wasn't just he lied. humans and especially politicians do that. It is rather he refused to take responsibility, and ducked out. He has kept doing it again and again. Exaggerations and lies over claiming support from charities, ducking out of paying taxes, talking over women saying they don't deserve sports or any spaces, about why he swapped from Lib Dem to being Green . It is all very similar to the way many behave particularly blokes from other political parties.

Now the crazy anti Semitism within the party has been growing and ZP has failed to stop it. He did try to block it behind the scenes, but was very reluctant to face it head on. This cumulated in the Greens Conference 2006, when ZP failed to fight against the racist anti-Zionist motion in person. Instead he went to campaign in London for the byelection. Meanwhile guess what the fight back was lead mostly by 4 of the 5 Green MPs, mostly women.

Looking back at the last thread the horror is everything we predicted has come to pass. This is what headed the last thread in May 2006.
Now in the last week or so after a longstanding spate of anti-Semitic rhetoric from some Greens during the election campaign and ZP downplaying it. We have synagogues, schools, ambulances attacked, two Jewish people dead and ZP berating unarmed police for risking their lives in fighting a violent killer who was still armed with a knife things have come to a crisis point.
The Greens are becoming ever more sinister with dozens of candidates sounding like they are seventies NF supporters with comments about uppity women and Jewish power.

The October Conference 2026 was as dark as predicted. The racism was crazy. They banned the words mum and dad. Apparently women have to dress modestly to win Muslim votes. Not only was Green's Women's Declaration banned, but some Greens have now decided that women's biology is so icky they protest talks about it.
https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-16181937/Trans-Green-women-event-female-health.html

Besides ZPy, we also have documented Mothin Ali as deputy Leader who clearly doesn't believe in trans thinking, but cleverly sidesteps round talking about it. He has always had a issues with encouraging racist violence and one look at his wife shows what he thinks about women. He is also a landlord in a party which is supposedly anti landlord. Ali has been very loud talking about how bad racism is, but also loves being racist.

The other deputy leader Rachel Millward represents the posh rich faction of the Greens who manages to sounded like Reform when opposing Asylum Seekers in her area, but at the same time saying we are too harsh on immigrants in general. Obviously she also doesn't believe women are a thing. She also is a landlord as well, or rather her partner is. Yet she is the least crazy when violence and racism is concerned compared to ZP, and Mothin.

All of these people are up for re-election in 2027. The drama will be epic.

The media is paying increasing attention to what Mumsnet have been noting for ages. Mumsnet was there during the Challenor scandal which showed how awful the Greens anti-women rhetoric could be.

The Greens control Bristol where they face legal action from women for trying to silence them
https://www.localgovernmentlawyer.co.uk/governance/396-governance-news/99477-gender-critical-campaigners-launch-judicial-review-proceedings-over-council-chamber-ban

Their sexist nonsense has also raised protests in Hackney under the control of Zoe Garbbett with effigies of Andy Burnham being burned.
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5527195-zoe-garbett-green-mayor-for-hackney?page=1

Women being silenced in Green controlled Haringey
https://www.gbnews.com/news/trans-row-activists-heckle-abuse-labour-councillor

The fight back from Green Women's Declaration, https://www.greenwomensdeclaration.uk/ continues and they are now taking the Greens to court for banning them from the conference twice for being women. The court cases against GPEW from Emma Bateman and Shahrar Ali are developing, both getting through legal delaying tactics as they move to trial. Gardening is needed. These cases if successful could be dramatic in their impact.

First thread - where you can follow the rise of ZP and lots of other scandal May 2025
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5328986-greens-internal-drama-warms-up

Second Thread:
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5456759-sexismother-issues-in-the-green-party-england-wales-discussion-thread-2?

Third thread - the run up to the Greens Conference in October 2026
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5524462-sexismother-issues-in-the-green-party-england-wales-discussion-thread-3

Note the Scottish Greens which are a separate party to the Green Party England/Wales have their own thread for all their sexist/racist drama. They split off because GPEW didn't hate biology and women/gays enough at the time.
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5313420-scottish-greens-being-sexist-again?page=1

'A new survey by Ipsos in October found 52 per cent of the public said they had an unfavourable view of him, a six point rise since September.'

Honeymoon's over, Zack. What happens to your populist movement now it's no.longer popular?

Also asked whether Israel has a right to exist, he said that no country has a right to exist but people do.

So Palestine doesn't have a right to exist either?

Don't be silly. Palestine has always existed. As a nation it has been written about in books since the dawn of civilization and has a rich history of territorial integrity, culture, kingship, currency, language, art, and prayer.

Oh, wait.

he said that no country has a right to exist

This just makes me think of Putin.

It's a spectacularly fucking stupid thing for anyone to say, but especially the head of a political party that was supposedly interested in power.

Interesting account of the conference:

Today’s Green Party is a very different animal. The eco-soul is still present, but its faithful are a suffocated minority within their own party. In the exhibition hall, I spoke to those running the “Green Party Women” stand – staunch defenders of women’s rights. The real deal. It is no coincidence that the only visible message critical of “Palestine” in the entire conference exhibition hall was beside their table – a reference to the sexual violence committed by Hamas on October 7. Not everyone has been ‘captured’:

When I first saw the Green Women at their table, they were being somewhat harassed by a man of Arab heritage who was incensed by the “More Trees, Less Hamas” signage. I engaged him in conversation to better understand his objection.

https://david-collier.com/inside-occupied-territory-at-the-green-party-conference/

Also asked whether Israel has a right to exist, he said that no country has a right to exist but people do.

Maybe that's a reflection of his 'a world without borders' mindset, from the John Lennon school of politics.

What an idiot. I bet she’s terrified of upsetting the pro Gaza faction by saying the wrong thing.

Wow.

It seems to be a common but dumb line now amongst extreme Gaza supporters.

I guess it has origins in no borders thought, but a bunch of Brits saying I don't think other countries don't exist seems rather retrograde.

I assume so. Otherwise, a perfectly sensible thing to say would have been to say that this has absolutely fuckall to do with Scottish politics and is not her remit, and she doesn't want to comment on it.

But that threatens too many of the bullshit SNP/Green behemoths - their risible feinting at international relations, insistence on historically and politically illiterate proclamations on Gaza, and pseudo religious adherence to certain positions.

So she's reduced to long uncomfortable silence and a quick garbled gallop into 'world peace' at the end.

Ask the SNP how they feel about self determination. 😁

Well yes, if no country has the right to exist where does this leave the Scottish greens on Scottish independence

PUB-LIC ENEMY Leaked Green Party checklist urges members to avoid ‘exclusionary’ pubs and declare pronouns at meetings

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/40728788/green-party-checklist-urges-pronouns-pubs/

Green Lib Dem coalition at odds in East Herts.

East Herts Council’s Green leader Ben Crystall distances himself from ‘Zionism is racism’ motion and calls it a ‘failure’

https://www.bishopsstortfordindependent.co.uk/news/east-herts-council-s-green-leader-says-zionism-is-racism-m-9487504/

ZPy doesn't have two years. The way this is building the Greens are going to face serious issues in May 2027 local elections.

They are defending 528 seats across England. In urban areas their Gazaite policies might attract some votes but they are facing a revitalised Labour. In rural areas, small towns they face Lib Dems/Tories and Labour and their Gaza focus and racism is a disaster.

The big question is whether ZPys bungling will damage the Scottish Greens too.

Well there's Q Manivanian to help out with that

Speaking of whom, here's John Cleese being right.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c64g1rpv2228o

They're going to elect him just to stick it to the old man ain't they

No he came 3rd, some American Actor came 2nd and Dr Arthur Bernoff came first.

Green behind party's 'Zionism is racism' motion is 'Vegan Doctor' being probed by medical regulator over support for 'death to IDF' chants

https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-16216861/gp-probe-anti-semitism-green-party-zionism-motion.html

Remember the booted out women who said biology was real and replaced them with men like this.

EXCL: The creator of the ‘Palestine poppy’ is an Oxford-educated paediatrician who has written books for Muslim teenagers justifying stoning and warning that homosexuality is ‘a test from Allah’.

The Spectator can now reveal that Abdul Qader Ismail is an active member of Greens for Palestine and co-sponsored the group’s ‘Zionism is Racism’ policy. He is also the author of a book series titled An Introduction to Challenging Topics for Muslim Teens. The books provide justifications (within specific conditions) for stoning, crucification, cutting off hands and female genital mutilation. Ismail describes same-sex attraction as a ‘test from Allah’ and says homosexual relationships are wrong. He writes: ‘Even if we have homosexual feelings, we would not be able to act upon them without displeasing Allah… Having homosexual feelings is not a sin, and if we pray to Allah to help us and we do not act upon our feelings, Allah will be pleased with us.’
https://spectator.com/article/revealed-the-palestine-poppy-creator-who-justified-stoning/

Fun and games when vegan GP gets to bond with her comrade in the Intifada and idle chat turns to gender affirming care and halal meat provision

Labour to win record number of MPs as Tories and Greens get zero in 90% of London - shock poll
Labour surges in capital under Andy Burnham’s premiership, survey finds

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/burnham-labour-mps-win-london-poll-conservatives-polanski-green-farage-reform-b1301239.html

I went off the British Legion when they put out the Pride Poppy, I'm not surprised they've put out this one now, every institution in the country is now rotten to the core.

Well...

On transgender children, the book says that those who feel they should be the opposite gender should pray for help and stop themselves from acting on those feelings, adding that doing so would please Allah. The passage is notable given the Green party’s vehement opposition to the Supreme Court ruling that sex is determined by biology.

A separate chapter on female genital mutilation, for readers aged 15 to 17 and older, describes one traditional Islamic religious position as allowing, and even recommending, female circumcision. It discusses procedures such as reducing or removing the clitoral hood and reducing the inner labia, and describes arguments for having them performed by a trained surgeon using sterile equipment. Ismail writes: ‘The traditional Islamic position is that female circumcision is allowed, and even desirable. This is based on several Hadith.’ He also outlines that some scholars believe FGM is unacceptable.

According to his LinkedIn profile, Ismail is a paediatrician working in the UK, with a special interest in perinatal medicine as a clinical and research specialty. After studying medicine at the University of Oxford, he became a board member of PreHospital Aid, a ‘group of healthcare professionals who have either had personal or professional experience of living and or working in regions that have been affected by disasters or conflicts’.

Whenever I hear of men that get sufficiently angry to get violent and do damage, even to things, in very public settings, my mind ALWAYS asks what they do when they get angry in the home environment and are not under public scrutiny.

I think this is a reasonable question to ask, especially of an elected representative.