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Sexism/Racism/other issues in the Green party England & Wales - Discussion Thread 4

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fromorbit · 06/10/2026 06:23

RedToothBrush · Yesterday 20:39

We are going to need at least another 40 pages about this shit show of an anti-Semitic woman hating party...

We started these threads back in May 2025. It keeps getting worse.

You know when you watch a drama and it starts by being comic, then gets darker and darker. The threads started with the rise of Zack Polanski aka Hypno Boobs, Water Titty, ZPy before he became leader watching as he got elected in September 2, 2025.

The Hypnoboobs scandal was of course kind of funny, but what was very revealing was his attempt to paint it as a plot by the media against him. It was gradually revealed he used the drama to his advantage to advertise his business and he did claim to have weird powers over boobs from BBC footage.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn9enygvezeo

It wasn't just he lied. humans and especially politicians do that. It is rather he refused to take responsibility, and ducked out. He has kept doing it again and again. Exaggerations and lies over claiming support from charities, ducking out of paying taxes, talking over women saying they don't deserve sports or any spaces, about why he swapped from Lib Dem to being Green . It is all very similar to the way many behave particularly blokes from other political parties.

Now the crazy anti Semitism within the party has been growing and ZP has failed to stop it. He did try to block it behind the scenes, but was very reluctant to face it head on. This cumulated in the Greens Conference 2006, when ZP failed to fight against the racist anti-Zionist motion in person. Instead he went to campaign in London for the byelection. Meanwhile guess what the fight back was lead mostly by 4 of the 5 Green MPs, mostly women.

Looking back at the last thread the horror is everything we predicted has come to pass. This is what headed the last thread in May 2006.
Now in the last week or so after a longstanding spate of anti-Semitic rhetoric from some Greens during the election campaign and ZP downplaying it. We have synagogues, schools, ambulances attacked, two Jewish people dead and ZP berating unarmed police for risking their lives in fighting a violent killer who was still armed with a knife things have come to a crisis point.
The Greens are becoming ever more sinister with dozens of candidates sounding like they are seventies NF supporters with comments about uppity women and Jewish power.

The October Conference 2026 was as dark as predicted. The racism was crazy. They banned the words mum and dad. Apparently women have to dress modestly to win Muslim votes. Not only was Green's Women's Declaration banned, but some Greens have now decided that women's biology is so icky they protest talks about it.
https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-16181937/Trans-Green-women-event-female-health.html

Besides ZPy, we also have documented Mothin Ali as deputy Leader who clearly doesn't believe in trans thinking, but cleverly sidesteps round talking about it. He has always had a issues with encouraging racist violence and one look at his wife shows what he thinks about women. He is also a landlord in a party which is supposedly anti landlord. Ali has been very loud talking about how bad racism is, but also loves being racist.

The other deputy leader Rachel Millward represents the posh rich faction of the Greens who manages to sounded like Reform when opposing Asylum Seekers in her area, but at the same time saying we are too harsh on immigrants in general. Obviously she also doesn't believe women are a thing. She also is a landlord as well, or rather her partner is. Yet she is the least crazy when violence and racism is concerned compared to ZP, and Mothin.

All of these people are up for re-election in 2027. The drama will be epic.

The media is paying increasing attention to what Mumsnet have been noting for ages. Mumsnet was there during the Challenor scandal which showed how awful the Greens anti-women rhetoric could be.

The Greens control Bristol where they face legal action from women for trying to silence them
https://www.localgovernmentlawyer.co.uk/governance/396-governance-news/99477-gender-critical-campaigners-launch-judicial-review-proceedings-over-council-chamber-ban

Their sexist nonsense has also raised protests in Hackney under the control of Zoe Garbbett with effigies of Andy Burnham being burned.
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5527195-zoe-garbett-green-mayor-for-hackney?page=1

Women being silenced in Green controlled Haringey
https://www.gbnews.com/news/trans-row-activists-heckle-abuse-labour-councillor

The fight back from Green Women's Declaration, https://www.greenwomensdeclaration.uk/ continues and they are now taking the Greens to court for banning them from the conference twice for being women. The court cases against GPEW from Emma Bateman and Shahrar Ali are developing, both getting through legal delaying tactics as they move to trial. Gardening is needed. These cases if successful could be dramatic in their impact.

First thread - where you can follow the rise of ZP and lots of other scandal May 2025
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5328986-greens-internal-drama-warms-up

Second Thread:
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5456759-sexismother-issues-in-the-green-party-england-wales-discussion-thread-2?

Third thread - the run up to the Greens Conference in October 2026
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5524462-sexismother-issues-in-the-green-party-england-wales-discussion-thread-3

Note the Scottish Greens which are a separate party to the Green Party England/Wales have their own thread for all their sexist/racist drama. They split off because GPEW didn't hate biology and women/gays enough at the time.
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5313420-scottish-greens-being-sexist-again?page=1

Zack Polanski, in white open necked shirt and dark jacket, addresses a Green Party rally, with microphone in hand

Zack Polanski stood by breast enlargment hypnosis claim

A newly unearthed interview from 2013 casts doubt on the Green Party leader's claim to have apologised.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn9enygvezeo

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Chersfrozenface · 19/10/2026 16:50

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 19/10/2026 16:36

I went off the British Legion when they put out the Pride Poppy, I'm not surprised they've put out this one now, every institution in the country is now rotten to the core.

The "Palestine Poppy" isn't a British Legion badge.

Lalgarh · 19/10/2026 17:04

Examsareoverwoohoo · 19/10/2026 16:44

Whenever I hear of men that get sufficiently angry to get violent and do damage, even to things, in very public settings, my mind ALWAYS asks what they do when they get angry in the home environment and are not under public scrutiny.

I think this is a reasonable question to ask, especially of an elected representative.

On the podcast he did with Mark Steele, he said his wife (never seen in public without her full Niqab) was a mainstay of campaigning and helping with mail outs and ballots and making tea and whatnot. I don't think he actually said her name.

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 19/10/2026 17:07

Chersfrozenface · 19/10/2026 16:50

The "Palestine Poppy" isn't a British Legion badge.

Oh thank god for that.

lcakethereforeIam · 19/10/2026 17:10

He said his wife was a mainstay if free labour. Does he claim a wage for her? If he does then he wouldn't be unique, also 'ker-ching'.

Glad to learn the Palestinian poppy is a knock-off. I thought it was but wasn't 100% sure. Bit 'stolen valour' imo.

PassTheHanky · 19/10/2026 18:27

Chersfrozenface · 19/10/2026 13:26

Speaking of whom, here's John Cleese being right.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c64g1rpv2228o

Manivannan uses they/them pronouns as slavishly repeated by the BBC.

The BBC quoted one of his statements saying - "I am horrified that my comments were selectively edited in order to mislead people and misrepresent me".

But if Manivannan thinks he's a plural "they" shouldn't he have said - "We are horrified that our comments were selectively edited in order to mislead people and misrepresent us".?

Anyone would think "they" hadn't thought it through?

ArabellaScott · 19/10/2026 19:53

Lalgarh · 19/10/2026 16:37

Well...

On transgender children, the book says that those who feel they should be the opposite gender should pray for help and stop themselves from acting on those feelings, adding that doing so would please Allah. The passage is notable given the Green party’s vehement opposition to the Supreme Court ruling that sex is determined by biology.

A separate chapter on female genital mutilation, for readers aged 15 to 17 and older, describes one traditional Islamic religious position as allowing, and even recommending, female circumcision. It discusses procedures such as reducing or removing the clitoral hood and reducing the inner labia, and describes arguments for having them performed by a trained surgeon using sterile equipment. Ismail writes: ‘The traditional Islamic position is that female circumcision is allowed, and even desirable. This is based on several Hadith.’ He also outlines that some scholars believe FGM is unacceptable.

According to his LinkedIn profile, Ismail is a paediatrician working in the UK, with a special interest in perinatal medicine as a clinical and research specialty. After studying medicine at the University of Oxford, he became a board member of PreHospital Aid, a ‘group of healthcare professionals who have either had personal or professional experience of living and or working in regions that have been affected by disasters or conflicts’.

Never did I ever imagine that a medic in the UK would be advocating for FGM.

ArabellaScott · 19/10/2026 20:04

Lalgarh · 19/10/2026 16:37

Well...

On transgender children, the book says that those who feel they should be the opposite gender should pray for help and stop themselves from acting on those feelings, adding that doing so would please Allah. The passage is notable given the Green party’s vehement opposition to the Supreme Court ruling that sex is determined by biology.

A separate chapter on female genital mutilation, for readers aged 15 to 17 and older, describes one traditional Islamic religious position as allowing, and even recommending, female circumcision. It discusses procedures such as reducing or removing the clitoral hood and reducing the inner labia, and describes arguments for having them performed by a trained surgeon using sterile equipment. Ismail writes: ‘The traditional Islamic position is that female circumcision is allowed, and even desirable. This is based on several Hadith.’ He also outlines that some scholars believe FGM is unacceptable.

According to his LinkedIn profile, Ismail is a paediatrician working in the UK, with a special interest in perinatal medicine as a clinical and research specialty. After studying medicine at the University of Oxford, he became a board member of PreHospital Aid, a ‘group of healthcare professionals who have either had personal or professional experience of living and or working in regions that have been affected by disasters or conflicts’.

Skimming this book now.

Crikey, is all I will say. Some startling assertions and surprising conclusions.

Freely available on Google Books.

books.google.co.uk/books?id=YcZIEQAAQBAJ

fromorbit · 20/10/2026 03:25

Ed Davey

I am ruling out our party entering into a national partnership with any party that is committed to a dangerous and antisemitic policy like the Green Party’s.

Greens problems getting bigger.

With the other parties taking this stance and publicly breaking from the Greens they are in growing trouble.

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Lalgarh · 20/10/2026 10:33

Leftie stats appears to be shutting down his Twitter account citing mental health issues.

But is still active on Bluesky lauding the Zionism is racism vote

https://bsky.app/profile/leftiestats.bsky.social

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 20/10/2026 10:36

Lalgarh · 20/10/2026 10:33

Leftie stats appears to be shutting down his Twitter account citing mental health issues.

But is still active on Bluesky lauding the Zionism is racism vote

https://bsky.app/profile/leftiestats.bsky.social

sad times

Lalgarh · 20/10/2026 11:10

It's been suggested that the shut down is because he seemed to actually be earning money and doing this more or less full time. Which might count as a job. Which would be AWKS at the next disability benefits review for a proud mentally ill disabled Trans woman like Mx Folan who was officially unable to betray Zir principles by participating in rapacious capitalist interactions

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 20/10/2026 12:14

😂 with any luck he'll get done for Benefits Fraud then, I'd certainly like them to stop wasting my taxes on shirkers like him.

fromorbit · 20/10/2026 16:49

fromorbit · 20/10/2026 03:25

Ed Davey

I am ruling out our party entering into a national partnership with any party that is committed to a dangerous and antisemitic policy like the Green Party’s.

Greens problems getting bigger.

With the other parties taking this stance and publicly breaking from the Greens they are in growing trouble.

It seems the new Lib Dem statement has no requirement for local Lib Dem councils to break with the Greens. Unlike Labour.

Lib Dem deputy refuses to pull out of Green Party council coalitions
https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-16221277/Lib-Dem-deputy-blasted-bemoans-councillors-having-work-Green-Party-power-sharing-antisemitism.html?

Just keeps the drama going.

Ex-Greens co-leader urges council groups to reject Zionism policy
Exclusive: Adrian Ramsay calls conference motion a distraction and says councillors should maintain coalitions where possible
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/oct/20/greens-adrian-ramsay-council-groups-reject-zionism-racism-policy

Police will take no action against Greens over anti-Zionist chants
Force had been asked by Labour MPs to investigate party activists’ chants at conference in Brighton
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2026/10/20/police-refuse-investigate-greens-anti-zionist-conference/

Lib Dem deputy refuses to pull out of Green Party council coalitions

Daisy Cooper was slapped down as she appeared to portray Lib Dem councillors as victims in the ongoing Green Party antisemitism row.

https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-16221277/Lib-Dem-deputy-blasted-bemoans-councillors-having-work-Green-Party-power-sharing-antisemitism.html

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ErroltheSwampDragon · 20/10/2026 17:42

fromorbit · 20/10/2026 16:49

It seems the new Lib Dem statement has no requirement for local Lib Dem councils to break with the Greens. Unlike Labour.

Lib Dem deputy refuses to pull out of Green Party council coalitions
https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-16221277/Lib-Dem-deputy-blasted-bemoans-councillors-having-work-Green-Party-power-sharing-antisemitism.html?

Just keeps the drama going.

Ex-Greens co-leader urges council groups to reject Zionism policy
Exclusive: Adrian Ramsay calls conference motion a distraction and says councillors should maintain coalitions where possible
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/oct/20/greens-adrian-ramsay-council-groups-reject-zionism-racism-policy

Police will take no action against Greens over anti-Zionist chants
Force had been asked by Labour MPs to investigate party activists’ chants at conference in Brighton
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2026/10/20/police-refuse-investigate-greens-anti-zionist-conference/

Given the probability of the Lib Dems forming the next government in a coalition with the Greens is 0, this is just another example of them having no real beliefs, policies, or positions.

Lalgarh · 20/10/2026 18:15

Wet lettuce vibes

Lalgarh · 21/10/2026 12:45

Greens getting some favourable hearing because of the announcement on drilling at Jackdaw.

They've just had Ellie Chowns' on pmqs trying to sound angry and forceful whilst sat next to a spaced out looking Hannah the Plumber and in front of Farage on the backbenches smirking

Chersfrozenface · 22/10/2026 13:17

Oh boy!

"Green Party leaders in London are encouraging people “inspired by protests in France” to join an anti-austerity rally in the capital ahead of next week’s Budget

The Hackney Greens reposted a message from one of their councillors urging those “inspired” by the French demonstrators to join the “march against austerity” on the eve of the Budget."

Not actually encouraging people to riot in so many words but definitely hinting at it. Other parties are, understandably, making the link and laying into the Hackney Greens.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/france-protest-green-party-march-budget-london-b1301859.html

ArabellaScott · 22/10/2026 13:30

Oh. They liked the look of the French riots?!

Geezo.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 22/10/2026 14:00

Of course they did.

Lalgarh · 22/10/2026 14:06

I do remember the palpable excitement of anti capitalist Beano's in the 90s that would usually end in a McDonald's being trashed. It's that.

It's literally the possibility of a day off work like a snow day

ArabellaScott · 22/10/2026 15:36

Good description. I suppose with a touch of:

Burning Burn It Down GIF by Franky The Frog
Ereshkigalangcleg · 22/10/2026 17:09

They’ll be hotfooting it to the Harry Potter shop.

Chersfrozenface · 22/10/2026 17:26

Ereshkigalangcleg · 22/10/2026 17:09

They’ll be hotfooting it to the Harry Potter shop.

And I don't doubt that the shop will have beefed up security. Though it doesn't open until 4th November, so I expect its security shutters will be down anyway.

But then in Oxford Street there's Primark, New Look etc. I wonder whether they'll be extra vigilant.