terrifying, dangerous, abusive "advice" on r/transgenderuk

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https://www.reddit.com/r/transgenderUK/comments/1vo4oqz/hypothetical_situation/.

Dad wants to prevent his effeminate 15 year old boy from developing an adam's apple or deep voice, so "hypothetically" asks if he could back and forth to France for puberty blockers.

gets loads of "support", told he's a wonderful father, advised to put the lad on diy estrogen instead as it's more appropriate "at that age" (15!).

Surely platforms can't allow this, legally! it's so dangerous. I'm really upset. His poor little lad.

Oh dear.

https://www.erininthemorning.com/p/abusive-practices-and-conversion

Yes. So in doing so that is admitting that the “trans kids kill themselves” trope is false. Because there is it is actually statistically rare.

Thank you for pointing out that in court, it was revealed that the trope is false.

What court case?

So you can only rely on Erin in the Morning.

So your proof that something Erin Reed wrote isn’t false is to link something Erin Reed wrote as proof. Gotcha.

Ah, Schrodinger's suicides.

Definitely happening, but also won't show up in any stats because reasons.

But definitely happening. The true Believers know this with great great certainty.

One who is not a True Believer, warrior of the faith, might pause to wonder if all these additional issues that accompany transgenderism in children are apparently severe enough and common enough to completly hide the trans element of the suicides, isn't it possible that this transgenderism is actually a symptom of the other issues rather than a thing in its own right? And one might wonder why, rather than irreversibly damaging the child physically and mentally in service of the "fact" of their transgenderism, the first port of call is not to untangle and support the child witj those other issues?

You say "anti-trans", but I see it as "trans-critical". This treatment causes permanent changes to the bodies of people who cannot consent due to their age and immaturity. The idea that your soul/identity/inner personality can be at odds with your body only works in books and other media- it simply doesn't work in reality.

There is a paradox in removing Gender Dysphoria as a recognised medical disorder from the DSM and insisting that children be exposed to harmful medications to "treat" a condition that is no longer classed as medical. I cannot understand how this is in any way ethically sanctioned by parents and medical professionals.

It isn't trans people that are the issue; it's the idea of self-ID- that a person's feelings and identity overrule objective reality that is causing all the issues. If children who express distress because they are gender non-conforming can manage that distress while they go through puberty so they have healthy bodies, this is surely a win-win. The only people really losing are the ethically dubious practitioners making a buck out of this.

Not having a record of suicidality doesn't prove there's no increased risk which is irrelevant because generally accepted increased risk factors do.

Please point to what she says is false & provide supporting evidence then?

You can't can you? That's why you are resorting to character assassination.

No I have seen no such study although the recent Finnish longitudinal register study indicates a higher instance of serious psychiatric problems for children and young people AFTER medicalisation than before.

In the adult population however, the Swedish longitudinal study found higher rates of suicide in people who had “reassigned sex” than in the general population

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3043071/

Please stop engaging with these Reddit thread derailers. They win every time someone takes the trouble to respond to their "gotcha"s and there is no way on earth that anything you say will make the slightest difference to them.

As an aside, isn't it amazing that they're allowed to come on here and "discuss" this stuff with people but anyone trying to reciprocate on Reddit would be immediately banned. Fucking hypocrites.

Oh bless them they are trying so hard to make this "cult" thing stick aren't they?

"People who don't believe your brain can have a mysterious gender that matches the sex of other people's bodies and makes you basically the same as them, but in ways we can't actually describe without showing up the whole thing to be basically sexist or homophobic stereotypes are all in a cult!"

I strongly suggest you read the recent scientific studies showing that puberty blockers are safe, rather than transphobia.

Why on earth does this even concern you? There are so few trans children, and you have no idea how they think or feel.

I'm the mother of someone who's trans. I know that doctors, parents and trans people are the only ones with relevant opinions about blockers. It has literally nothing to do with you, or most other people here.

How much time do you devote to actually helping children versus reading transphobia? Such a weird thing to do.

Reed claims that Kaltiata has “extensive ties with at least one anti-LGBTQ+ hate group” and then links his own article about the fact the SPLC has designated Genspect and SEGM as those groups. Of course, it’s nonsense that these groups are “anti-LGBTQ+” because the SPLC’s claims as such were fictitious nonsense and those organisations have people who sre LGBTQ running them and participating in them. Apparently the “evidence” that Kaltiata has “extensive ties” is she presented at a conference.

Wow. Sooo revealing. Reed really is a modern day Woodward and Bernstein isn’t he 🤣🤣

https://aldailynews.com/plaintiffs-end-challenge-to-transgender-treatment-ban-for-minors/

This one. It proved to be a goldmine for disclosure- including the suppressed systematic reviews

Are you serious? child abuse is EVERYONE's concern. The boy is 15 and his dad is looking into blocking normal puberty, against medical guidelines.

The first bit of your false assertion is that Erin is 'she'.

Everything he does is hitched to this lie, and he will do anything to keep it that way.

Might now be the time to quote a stat finding from Hannah Barnes' book Time to think where children in GIDS were ten times, that is the number 10, more likely to have a registered sex offender as a parent.

child safeguarding is everyone’s responsibility.

You say you are the mother of someone who says they are the opposite sex.

The way you go after people who are also parents of children caught up in this makes me think otherwise.

That age old 'narrow blinkered viewpoint' of not wanting children mutilated and sterilised. What monsters!

the grift is over and you know it, which is why you lot always sound so hysterical when you come over here from Reddit with your evidence free rants. What you’re advocating for is the unregulated abuse of minors.