Triggernometry KJK vs Helen Webbererly

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Triggernometry are hosting a debate between Kellie Jay Keene and Helen Webberly tonight. Should be interesting!

https://x.com/triggerpod/status/2085311868235600059?s=20

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Worth a watch.

To misquote the wonderful Magdalene

"Id rather be rude than a child mutilating ghoul"

Wow are you being disingenuous? If not, you seriously need to dial up your radar for narcissistic psychopaths - the rage and spite of HW is barely concealed underneath word salad. There is literally nothing thoughtful about what she says. She is the very definition of someone that doesn't do any thinking and doesn't want her audience to think. A moment's thought would burst the entire edifice that her life and career are built on.

It has been unhelpful that kjk has been saying for years and years that gender dysphoria didn’t exist. For this reason I wasn’t surprised to see kjk say she didn’t believe gender dysphoria existed. It massively surprised me however, when, a couple of moments later, after one or two questions from Konstantin, she then admitted that it did exist.
I do think it exists- like kjk I think it’s a response to trauma. I wish she had figured this out years ago and I wish she hadn’t contradicted everyone who tried to speak about it.
i was also astonished to hear that she was pro adults transitioning if they want. Trans is harmful to society , kjk knows that.

In some instances she argued against the point she had already made.

She said 'you cant change sex' then 'you can change sex' then 'you cant change gender' until 'you can change gender'.

Utter lunatic. And would give Puberty Blockers after 1 session.

58 minutes in:
KJK: Well, hold on, hold on, hold on. So, gender GP, how many before you refer people for puberty blockers, how many sessions would they have?
HW: Well, it depends. I mean, I gender GP is a is what's the minimum number of sessions? There's no minimum. There's no minimum. can have one session.

Then minutes later at 1h 3 min:
KJK: One session you said sometimes that was enough
HW: for adults. Yeah.
KJK: No. No.
HW: Yes.

Do you have the timestamp for this?

Webberley - money grabbing lying grifter

I don't think the doctor will be wanting to publicize this debate, given how badly she comes across.

HW would like KJK to go to prison? Well 'doc', your organisation prescribed my early 20s ND son blockers and hormones after 2 phone calls. No blood tests, no physical examinations, no proper exploration of what was going on. So, if we are going to sling people in jail, "you first".

I’m so sorry, @InnCognito

id like to see this charlatan in jail too.

I hope your son is doing ok.

I had to stop about half way through for the sake of my blood pressure. Within a few minutes it was clear that the doctor is completely dishonest. Obfuscating, gaslighting and plain lying through her teeth. What an obnoxious charlatan she is.

I really wish kjk had picked up on hw when she said that children have a gender identity from birth or even from conception. What utter twaddle.

Maybe she purposely avoided that particular rabbit hole and let the statement which was made more than once stand by itself!

I enjoyed the bit where Konstantine honed in on HW when she insisted that children must be taken seriously if they identify as a different gender.

K - Should you take them seriously if they identify as a cat, a train or a dolphin? HW - no because those aren't human.

K - What about as Napoleon?
HW - No because he's dead.
K - What about identifying as Andy Burnham who's both human and alive?
HW - No because he would be upset if you did that.
K - So children can only be taken seriously if they identify as a different gender ....... because you say so?.

Konstantine looked pretty incredulous by this time.

I have nothing to add that hasn’t already been said other than the blue polo shirt is the most hideous item of clothing I’ve ever seen. Does HW work for Greggs in her spare time??

I've only watched the first half, but I wish KJK had picked up on HW not knowing what puberty is. HW said that people can go through an opposite sex puberty, because puberty is just about growing breasts or facial hair etc. Completely missing the point that puberty is the process of becoming sexually mature and capable of reproduction.

Webberly - identifies as Mengele.

I discovered the medication quite early. I half suspect he wanted me to. He is not taking anything and is not 'trans'.

When I think about the amount of time that goes into media investigations into clinics giving dodgy botox or weight loss jabs (rightly), and see the free pass this absolute ghoul was given, it infuriates me.

She always says people who are non medics shouldn't talk about this because they don't understand. I wish someone would set up a debate with Emma Hilton or someone similar and see if she would argue black is white then.

Interesting that she always dismisses the options of trans people (Buck Angel, Blair White) that don't fit her narrative.

I am listening to this now. Just aghast.

The obvious riposte is that she isn't a doctor any more as her registration lapsed in October 2024 when she refused to engage with the revalidation process by having an independent annual appraisal. Her husband was struck off in 2022 for amongst other crimes prescribing a near lethal dose of testosterone for a 12-year old girl.

Interestingly I see that a Simon James Webberley (a third Webberley listed by the GMC) qualified from Brighton medical school on 27 Jul 2026 & is provisionally registered. I wonder if they are related?

www.gmc-uk.org/registrants?text=webberley&allProfessions=true

Perhaps PotteringP is one of the 'heat on both sides' types.

Throughout this period (of debating whether women and children are actual human beings deserving of equal rights and safeguarding) the rude and agressive ones have been the TRAs and their hangers-on. The moment a pro-women individual raises their voice or interrupts, this is painted as rude and agressive. Yet drowning out woman speakers, rape threats and piss protests are not.

I was struck by this too. KJK was making the point that arresting puberty means those children won’t attain sexual maturity. HW insisted they will because they’ll go through the puberty of the opposite sex (by taking X sex hormones), and then banged on about secondary sex characteristics without once acknowledging that the whole aim of puberty is attaining sexual maturity, a process which is centred around the primary sex characteristics; ie ovaries releasing eggs and testicles producing sperm and semen.

I also noticed while they were discussing testosterone, that HW said: ‘If you haven’t got testicles, you can’t produce your own’. Well that’s not true either is it? Women DO produce their own testosterone in small amounts.

Her husband was struck off in 2022 for amongst other crimes prescribing a near lethal dose of testosterone for a 12-year old girl.

HW was also temporarily suspended in 2022 for prescribing testosterone to girls aged 12 and 17 and puberty blockers to an 11-year-old girl.

Transgender children GP: Helen Webberley suspended for misconduct - BBC News

What I don't understand is why her treatment was so lenient. It just encouraged her to carry on when her suspension was lifted.

I find it hard to believe that someone with such a poor understanding of basic human biology can have qualified as a doctor.