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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Commonwealth Games website (re Caster Semanya)

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impossibletoday · 31/07/2026 20:33

Noticed on the commonwealth games website. All the athletics events I looked at showed both the world record and the games record......

except the women's 800m.

Guess who holds that record from 2016.

Commonwealth Games website (re Caster Semanya)
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Helleofabore · 04/08/2026 13:19

There has to be a decision to screen and exclude these players. This cannot continue in light of the OIC decision.

spannasaurus · 04/08/2026 13:21

Iran has been including male players on the woman's football team for some time. In 2015 8 of the women's team were men

Commonwealth Games website (re Caster Semanya)
oldtiredcyclist · 04/08/2026 14:41

spannasaurus · 04/08/2026 13:21

Iran has been including male players on the woman's football team for some time. In 2015 8 of the women's team were men

It was a bit more complicated than that and it was an Iranian official who put a stop to it after the Iranian governing body carried out random checks.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/eight-of-iran-s-women-s-football-team-accused-of-being-men-a6675576.html

Official accuses most of Iran's women's football team of being men

Authorities have reportedly ordered gender testing of the entire national squad and leading league players

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/eight-of-iran-s-women-s-football-team-accused-of-being-men-a6675576.html

spannasaurus · 04/08/2026 15:00

oldtiredcyclist · 04/08/2026 14:41

It was a bit more complicated than that and it was an Iranian official who put a stop to it after the Iranian governing body carried out random checks.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/eight-of-iran-s-women-s-football-team-accused-of-being-men-a6675576.html

What was more complicated. I've read the report linked in your post and it says that eight men awaiting sex operations had been knowingly playing for the team.

hethor · 04/08/2026 17:48

spannasaurus · 04/08/2026 15:00

What was more complicated. I've read the report linked in your post and it says that eight men awaiting sex operations had been knowingly playing for the team.

Edited

It wasn't organized by the Iranian FA. This was happening contrary to their official policy, and when someone blew the whistle the authorities carried out sex eligibility testing on the whole team.

Helleofabore · 04/08/2026 17:54

hethor · 04/08/2026 17:48

It wasn't organized by the Iranian FA. This was happening contrary to their official policy, and when someone blew the whistle the authorities carried out sex eligibility testing on the whole team.

That is interesting....

Do you think they have maintained that sex screening for every player starting with them? And does that cover those with DSDs? Because with some of the players that applied to or did end up staying in Australia, I must admit to thinking the Iranian team was still allowing male players in the female game after watching how they moved on the field.

spannasaurus · 04/08/2026 18:39

Last year, the Iranian football governing body introduced random checks after four national players were found to be men who had not had fully completed sex operations, or had development disorders

This part of the Independent report reads to me as though the men would have been eligible to play if they had a DSD or if they had genital surgery

Helleofabore · 04/08/2026 18:45

spannasaurus · 04/08/2026 18:39

Last year, the Iranian football governing body introduced random checks after four national players were found to be men who had not had fully completed sex operations, or had development disorders

This part of the Independent report reads to me as though the men would have been eligible to play if they had a DSD or if they had genital surgery

Thanks

That would be consistent with what I assumed.

GrumpyPanda · Today 01:11

Millie767 · 03/08/2026 06:29

You seem to be interpreting what I said as the first part of this definition, rather than the second:

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/bioessentialism

And your point is...? Dictionaries record usage, they don't define concepts. In this case, what they record is dimwitted misunderstanding and/or wilfully misinterpreting the meaning of the term.

GrumpyPanda · Today 01:31

Helleofabore · 04/08/2026 12:39

It is time for FIFA and the world football associations to get this sorted.

When you have people described as the highest paid female players who have previously failed sex screening tests it is a huge problem that these organisations are sticking their fingers in their ears and ignoring.

It will be very clear who does and doesn’t play in the Olympics if football is played.

Bwahahaha. A couple of years ago the German football association imposed a five-digit fine on a Bundesliga club for an "Only two sexes" fan banner.

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