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The Bluestocking Women's Pub, in which Gosie returns to the trail

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Magpiecomplex · 27/07/2026 20:46

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ErrolTheDragon · Today 09:10

MyrtleLion · Today 01:26

I’ve half written a long constitutional paper about the mess at that meeting last week, but tomorrow I have to write my DSD’s Mandatory Reconsideration of her PIP decision. The letter took nine days to arrive and we only have a month since the date not the arrival. So it’s due in a week and we still haven’t received the assessment report which we requested nine days ago which we need for the MR. Apparently it can’t be emailed.

It’s almost like they want the process to fail.Hmm

EdithStourton · Today 09:18

MyrtleLion · Today 01:26

I’ve half written a long constitutional paper about the mess at that meeting last week, but tomorrow I have to write my DSD’s Mandatory Reconsideration of her PIP decision. The letter took nine days to arrive and we only have a month since the date not the arrival. So it’s due in a week and we still haven’t received the assessment report which we requested nine days ago which we need for the MR. Apparently it can’t be emailed.

I really loathe it when the rules or systems are there to thwart you, or just make life more difficult than it needs to be.

If it's any consolation, I feel your pain. I'm currently caught in three disobliging systems, each of which seems set up to cause the client as much hassle as possible.

PastaAllaNorma · Today 11:18

The process IS the punishment, as ever, Myrtle. My sympathies.

Th guinea girls are settling in well! There have been wheeks and popcorning, which is an excellent sign.

The Bluestocking Women's Pub, in which Gosie returns to the trail
MarieDeGournay · Today 13:33

Australia is the planet's extinction hotspot, but one animal offers a glimmer of hope
'the numbat, a rare Australian marsupial which could be the love-child of a chipmunk and an anteater.'Smile
I'd love us to have a numbat in the Bluey, and also whatever that upside-down bat-like creature next to it is, but in fairness transporting them to Peak Woo would not do much to help them flourish in their natural habitat😒

L-R: Numbat, Australian Flying Fox and Australian Sea Lion

Australia is the planet's extinction hotspot, but one animal offers a glimmer of hope

The country is home to some of the world's most unique species - but it is losing them at an alarming rate.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c9q94lxqrzzo

AngleofRepose · Today 14:36

MarieDeGournay · Today 13:33

Australia is the planet's extinction hotspot, but one animal offers a glimmer of hope
'the numbat, a rare Australian marsupial which could be the love-child of a chipmunk and an anteater.'Smile
I'd love us to have a numbat in the Bluey, and also whatever that upside-down bat-like creature next to it is, but in fairness transporting them to Peak Woo would not do much to help them flourish in their natural habitat😒

Isn't the second one an aye-aye? That numbat is very cute, as well!

AngleofRepose · Today 14:39

Good afternoon everyone! Been busy with laundry and cleaning, and trying to put together a wardrobe for the London Visit, when I have no idea what we'll be doing or how hot it will be. I really should stop for now.

It's heating up here again (will it never stop?), although not likely to get to the 37C predicted for London this week. We might get to 30C. Maybe.

Those guinea pigs are so pretty @PastaAllaNorma .

AsWithGlad · Today 14:51

ErrolTheDragon · Today 09:05

wind direction could make a difference I suppose.
….hadn't refreshed to see Glad suggested this.

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Great minds 💜💚🤍

EmpressaurusKitty · Today 16:25

Oh fuck. The temporary crown has now vanished & I don’t know where I lost it. I’m due to get the permanent one on Wednesday though so not too long.

inkymoose · Today 16:32

MyrtleLion · Yesterday 18:06

13. Fenella Burnish

In which the wait is finally over…

“You’re spectacular!” said Griffin, before she could stop herself, and she was not the only one looking. Every eye in the room had moved the same way, Gosie, Hedgehog, Gimbal and Graphic all seeing the same blaze of orange and scarlet and gold, the colours of Fenella Burnish’s plumage catching the light from every skylight at once.

“I thought only the males could be this gorgeous,” said Hedgehog.

“That’s what we want you to think.” Fenella tipped her head toward the door. They could see a hatstand, a coat of feathers hanging from it, drab olive brown, a thin band of gold worked through the plumage below. Nobody said anything, but every one of them understood.

“I have your letters. All three,” said Fenella and turned to the workbench where a folder already sat waiting, its edge just visible with violet ink along one side.

She opened it the way another glazier might open an invoice, a fact rather than an announcement, and laid the first sheet flat, Gosie’s own hand, plain, unadorned, folded and refolded enough times that the creases had gone soft.

She touched the crest at the top corner rather than the paper itself. “That’s hand printed,” she said. “Not a plate, not anything bought in. Somebody set that by hand, carefully, and it sits very slightly off centre, the way these things do when a hand does them rather than a machine.” She said it plainly, without any suggestion it wanted correcting. “I liked it for that. It’s the kind of thing nobody would think to fake.”

She set it aside and drew out the second, the ivy worked along its margin in deep green, the compass rose in the corner still catching the light where the gold sat.

“This is the one I couldn’t put down,” she said, and touched the low corner of the ivy where a single stroke had been corrected, twice, the second correction finer than the first. “I told you as much already. What I didn’t tell you is what the gold is doing here.” She tilted the letter toward the skylight, the way she might have tilted a pane to check the lead. “That’s leaf, not paint. Real leaf laid and burnished. Most workshops I know can’t get it to sit on paper without cracking it, paper being considerably less forgiving than glass, which wants to hold a thing rather than simply carry it. Whoever did this either learned the technique somewhere I’d like to know about, or worked it out alone, which I’d like to know about rather more.”

Nobody answered. Graphic’s ears had gone deep pink.

“She practised on the backs of the delivery notes first,” said Gimbal, who had been watching Graphic rather than the letters. “There’s a stack of them behind the bar. Nobody’s allowed to bin them.”

“Naturally,” said Fenella, and did not look away from Graphic until Graphic, with visible effort, met her eye and said nothing at all, which seemed to satisfy her as much as an answer would have.

She drew out the third letter last, the one that had arrived, as she put it, considerably thicker than the previous two and laid its enclosures out one at a time as though setting a small table. Griffin’s diagram first, unfolded to its full and improbable size, room after room after room of the Bluestocking rendered in a hand so exact it bordered on the forensic.

“The mapmaker,” Fenella said, and Griffin straightened so fast she nearly caught the edge of the bench. “I’ve had architects hand me less careful work, and charge for it. I counted the rooms twice, out of curiosity, and gave up both times, which either means your pub is considerably larger than any pub has a right to be, or that whoever drew it understands something about the place I don’t.”

“It has what it needs, when it needs it,” said Griffin, which was true.

“That’s rather what I suspected,” said Fenella. “And yet here it all is, drawn as though it holds still long enough to be measured.”

“I extrapolate,” said Griffin, with the air of someone who had been waiting a very long time to use that word aloud.

Fenella moved on before this could be examined further, to the small fan of colour swatches, shade laid against shade with a discipline that suggested considerable judgment behind it. “Whoever chose these understood that restraint is harder than range,” she said, without asking whose work it was, already reaching for the last piece.

The flower came out from the corner of the envelope where it had been pressed flat and dry, small, pale, unremarkable to anyone who hadn’t spent a working life with their hands in leaded glass and marshland both.

“I said this was a lovely touch,” Fenella said. “I meant it, and I also meant rather more than that.” She held it up to the light, the same way she’d held the gold. “This is marsh pea. It grows along the ditches here, and in perhaps three other places in England that I know of, none of them anywhere near where you’d have been standing when you picked it.”

“I didn’t pick it near anywhere,” said Gimbal, faintly. “It was just in with the other pressed things. In the tin.”

“Then someone else picked it first,” said Fenella, “and it found its way into your tin without either of you knowing what you had.” She set it down with more care than the small, dried thing seemed to warrant. “I’d be curious to know where the tin came from, when you have a moment to think about it.”

Gimbal, who had spent the better part of the last week certain she already knew exactly what she’d contributed, looked, for the first time since arriving, considerably less certain of anything at all.

Fenella collected the letters and enclosures from across the bench, and returned them to the folder. She looked round at the five of them properly for the first time since they’d arrived. “Come through,” said Fenella. “You should see the rest of it.” And she was already moving before anyone had answered.

https://myrtlelion.substack.com/p/13-fenella-burnish

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I love this episode. It is my favourite so far ❤️❤️❤️

DauntlessDamson · Today 18:15

EmpressaurusKitty · Today 16:25

Oh fuck. The temporary crown has now vanished & I don’t know where I lost it. I’m due to get the permanent one on Wednesday though so not too long.

😧 I hope you haven't swallowed it, Kitty!

MyrtleLion · Today 18:16

AsWithGlad · Today 05:23

The direction of the wind, might that be different from last year?

That is possible, but it may be that the speakers face a different way. There are open fields they could point them towards rather than houses.

EmpressaurusKitty · Today 18:17

DauntlessDamson · Today 18:15

😧 I hope you haven't swallowed it, Kitty!

So do I! But they spent ages getting the previous temporary one off last time only to find they had to put a new one on, so at least we can skip that stage.

MyrtleLion · Today 18:17

Gosie incoming, but the Walrus may call has called me for dinner before I can post it.

DauntlessDamson · Today 18:21

There has been an airshow this weekend just up the coast from me and my choir were at an outdoor concert nearby, trying to sing over the sound of a Typhoon Eurofighter looping the loop.

We didn't win, but at least we weren't competing with the Red Arrows!😁

Boiledbeetle · Today 19:12

MyrtleLion · Today 18:17

Gosie incoming, but the Walrus may call has called me for dinner before I can post it.

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<looks at clock>

How many courses is dinner?

EmpressaurusKitty · Today 19:28

Boiledbeetle · Today 19:12

<looks at clock>

How many courses is dinner?

Have a pint while we’re waiting, Boily?

EmpressaurusKitty · Today 19:28

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The Bluestocking Women's Pub, in which Gosie returns to the trail
Boiledbeetle · Today 19:31

EmpressaurusKitty · Today 19:28

Have a pint while we’re waiting, Boily?

As long as I don't have to drink the blue drink. It looks like it's straight out of android's lab!

EmpressaurusKitty · Today 19:31

Boiledbeetle · Today 19:31

As long as I don't have to drink the blue drink. It looks like it's straight out of android's lab!

Let’s stick with beer!

Boiledbeetle · Today 19:32

EmpressaurusKitty · Today 19:31

Let’s stick with beer!

Agree! And when did the gerbils start giving us bowls of nuts?

EmpressaurusKitty · Today 19:33

I like nuts.

Boiledbeetle · Today 19:34

EmpressaurusKitty · Today 19:33

I like nuts.

As do I!

Gloria, more nuts please.

MyrtleLion · Today 19:41

14. The Offer

In which Fenella Burnish knows what she wants…

Gosie, @Hedgehogforshort, Griffin, Gimbal and Graphic followed Fenella Burnish through to the main workshop, past benches stacked with offcuts of glass sorted by colour rather than size, and racks of finished panels leaning against the far wall waiting for collection. Coils of pre-manufactured H-shaped lead came were looped over hooks on the walls. Light flooded through skylights set at three different heights, and somewhere behind a partition a kiln ticked as it cooled.

Graphic had stopped just inside the doorway and hadn’t moved since.

Fenella walked the length of the room without slowing for any of them, naming nothing, pointing at nothing, letting it announce itself the way the coat had. Only once she’d reached the far bench, where a half-finished pane sat propped in a jig, the lead not yet closed over one corner, did she turn back to face them properly.

“You’ll start in a week,” said Fenella. “Not casual. Proper work, paid at the going rate, materials provided. I’ve more commissions waiting than I have time for, and I don’t often find three people in one room worth building a place around.”

“You,” Fenella said to Graphic, “for the glasswork itself. I’ve watched you standing there for the better part of a minute and you haven’t once looked at the door, only at the glass.” She turned to Griffin before Graphic could answer.

“You, for records. Every workshop this size needs someone who draws what’s actually there rather than what’s supposed to be there, and I’ve never had that, so you’ll also start soon.”

Then to Gimbal. “And you, for whatever it is you do that makes people notice things they’d otherwise walk straight past. I haven’t worked out what to call the job yet. That’s the only part of this that isn’t already settled.”

“All three of us,” said Gimbal, faintly.

“All three. You’ll have the paperwork tomorrow.”

“We’ve already got jobs,” said Griffin, to the back of Fenella’s head, “at the Bluestocking.”

“I’m aware. I’m offering you other ones from Monday,” said Fenella, a fait accompli accomplished.

“We wouldn’t leave the Bluestocking,” said Griffin, before anyone else could answer for themselves or for each other.

“You don’t have to leave the Bluestocking,” said Fenella. “Just live there and work here.”

Gimbal had gone very still in the way that meant she was doing arithmetic. "That’s three job offers,” she said, one paw moving as she counted, “except Gosie hasn’t had one, and neither has Hedgehog, so is it three, or is it three out of five, because those aren’t the same thing at all.” She stopped counting. “Nobody’s had an offer like that before,” she said, faintly, unable to help herself.

“Starting in a week,” said Hedgehog, mostly to herself, “isn’t very much notice.”

“It’s plenty of notice,” said Griffin, rather sharply, apparently on principle rather than conviction.

“I didn’t say it wasn’t plenty.”

“You implied it.”

“I stated a fact.”

Gimbal was still counting, now on both paws. “If it’s three jobs starting the same week, someone has to tell Girdle. Girdle will want it in writing. Then Gasket will want to know if the rota changes, and if the rota changes, someone has to tell Maud, and Maud will already know, because Maud always already knows, so that part, at least, won’t take any time at all.”

“Nobody’s said yes,” said Griffin, loudly, to the room in general, since Fenella had already picked up a pair of pliers and did not appear to be waiting for one.

“And nobody’s going to,” said Hedgehog. “No. Not up for discussion.”

Fenella looked up from the pane for the first time since she’d started on it. “I didn’t realise I’d asked you.”

Into the awkward silence, Gosie said, “I wanted to ask you about your window restoration at Ripon Cathedral.”

Fenella set the pliers down. “Yes, Ripon was ours. Rosalind sent you, I expect. What do you want to know?”

“The restoration of the Chapter House window at Durham Cathedral was the same kind of work, near enough to your restoration at Ripon. The sort you’d never notice unless you knew to look. I wondered if you also worked on the Durham project.”

“That was us too,” said Fenella. “Not many people would have caught that. How did you know? Are you also in conservation?”

“Old glass has variation in it,” said Gosie. “Streaks, bubbles, places where the colour isn’t quite consistent. The Ripon restoration had that. So did Durham. So did Norwich, as it happens. It’s incredible that you were able to get glass to read that old if it wasn’t.”

Fenella actually smiled at that, the first time she had. “I hand roll it myself. Old glass wasn’t made flat in the way modern sheet glass is, so if you want it to look older, you have to make it the same way, faults and all.” She crossed to the bench and lifted a fragment of blue glass, holding it up to the light so the streaks in it showed. “You can’t fake that afterwards. It has to be there from the start.”

“So you were also responsible for the restoration at Norwich Cathedral?” asked Gosie.

“Norwich, too,” said Fenella, “and Winchester.” Fenella turned the fragment over once more before setting it down on the bench, the light catching the blue as it moved.

“That’s a lovely blue,” said Hedgehog, under her breath.

https://myrtlelion.substack.com/p/14-the-offer

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Magpiecomplex · Today 19:59

Boiledbeetle · Today 19:31

As long as I don't have to drink the blue drink. It looks like it's straight out of android's lab!

I'll have the blue drink. I'm not afraid of no spirits...

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EmpressaurusKitty · Today 20:03

I had no idea about old glass & how it worked, @MyrtleLion, this is fascinating.

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