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The Bluestocking Women's Pub, in which Gosie returns to the trail

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Magpiecomplex · 27/07/2026 20:46

Next thread!

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DauntlessDamson · 31/07/2026 17:05

Poor Gubbins, she suffers from the age-old affliction of the long summer holidays.

My cousin and I used to stay at my grandparents' in the Lake District during the long school holidays and if we complained of being bored, she would declare 'bored people are boring people - no imagination!' and shoo us outside.

To be fair, she never complained when we came in soaked from falling in the small stream, or covered in grass stains (or the occasional cow pat!). 😁

Magpiecomplex · 31/07/2026 17:08

Ok, riddle me this. When I finalised the Sainsbury's order last night, it firmly told me that I couldn't order salted caramel Magnums because they didn't have any. Lo and behold, the dark chocolate Magnums I ordered as a substitute have themselves been replaced. With salted caramel Magnums. Fortunately I had adopted a scattergun approach to ice cream ordering, going for as many different types as possible (within a rather elastic definition of reasonable) in the hope that some of it might actually arrive, and not be replaced by the peach flavour monstrosities the website was trying to tell me I wanted.

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Boiledbeetle · 31/07/2026 17:17

Magpiecomplex · 31/07/2026 17:08

Ok, riddle me this. When I finalised the Sainsbury's order last night, it firmly told me that I couldn't order salted caramel Magnums because they didn't have any. Lo and behold, the dark chocolate Magnums I ordered as a substitute have themselves been replaced. With salted caramel Magnums. Fortunately I had adopted a scattergun approach to ice cream ordering, going for as many different types as possible (within a rather elastic definition of reasonable) in the hope that some of it might actually arrive, and not be replaced by the peach flavour monstrosities the website was trying to tell me I wanted.

That's an excellent substitute of your substitute!

My shopping is due without any substitutions today. 2 pouches of tobacco, 6 pints of milk, 5 bagels, a bag of sugar and a packet of bacon. A healthy shop I think!

And miracle of miracles Amazon have just emailed to say they have finally started the refund on a £420 broken printer that went missing in action on its way back to Amazon in June!

Now if I could just get them to give me the whole of a £50 refund, rather than the £23.03 they have refunded so far, for a fuck up of their own doing from back in April that would be great.

Magpiecomplex · 31/07/2026 17:20

Boiledbeetle · 31/07/2026 17:17

That's an excellent substitute of your substitute!

My shopping is due without any substitutions today. 2 pouches of tobacco, 6 pints of milk, 5 bagels, a bag of sugar and a packet of bacon. A healthy shop I think!

And miracle of miracles Amazon have just emailed to say they have finally started the refund on a £420 broken printer that went missing in action on its way back to Amazon in June!

Now if I could just get them to give me the whole of a £50 refund, rather than the £23.03 they have refunded so far, for a fuck up of their own doing from back in April that would be great.

Several items in your shopping list are plant-based, I'd say you're winning at life!

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MyrtleLion · 31/07/2026 17:21

Chapter Five - Out in the Fens
In which Gosie finds a workshop…

The workshop was not signposted, which Gosie decided afterwards should have told her something.

She had the name from the Ripon conservation file and found the address in a business registry that listed Fenhurst and Rhys as a conservation partnership established in 1968 and continued by someone called Fenella Burnish. The building itself sat behind a row of poplars on a lane that seemed designed to discourage casual arrival, a long low former agricultural shed with skylights cut into the roof at intervals that suggested someone had thought carefully about north light and nothing else.

Gosie had not made an appointment. This had worked at Durham. It had worked at Ripon. She had begun, somewhere around Wells, to consider herself rather good at simply arriving and being received with the mild professional courtesy that conservation officers seemed to extend to anyone who asked an intelligent question.

The door was answered by a young, harried hamster apprentice holding a clipboard as though it had been issued to her specifically to be held rather than consulted.
“Do you have an appointment?”

“No,” said Gosie. “I was hoping to speak to Fenella Burnish about a restoration she may have worked on.”

“Fenella doesn’t see people without an appointment.”

“I understand. Would it be possible to check whether she has a few minutes.”

“She doesn’t have a few minutes without an appointment.”

There was, Gosie noted, a certain circularity to this that suggested it had been said before, possibly often, possibly to people considerably more insistent than herself.
Behind the apprentice, through a gap in a door that had not been fully closed, Gosie could see part of a long workbench, lead “came” coiled in neat grey loops, a scatter of glass offcuts catching the light in blues and ambers, and a panel clamped upright in a frame, half leaded, the pattern of it obscured by an angle she could not improve without being obviously rude about it.

“I’ve come rather a long way,” said Gosie, which was true, and which she suspected would not help.

It did not help.

“You could write,” said the apprentice, in the tone of someone offering a solution she did not expect to be taken up. “Fenella prefers written enquiries. She finds people at the door disruptive to the work.”

“Does she often get people at the door?”

The apprentice considered this question for slightly longer than the question warranted, which Gosie filed away without comment. “Not really,” she said, in the specific way people say not really when the honest answer is a great deal more complicated than that.

“I only wanted to confirm whether Fenella did some conservation work on a nave window at Ripon Cathedral and possibly a chapter house window at Durham.”

“I couldn’t tell you what Fenella has or hasn’t worked on. That’s confidential, client by client.”

“Even the fact of it?”

“Especially the fact of it.”

Gosie glanced again through the gap in the door. The panel in the frame had a section near the top that was unmistakably new glass, cut clean and bright against the older pieces surrounding it, the lead lines around it precise, recent, the whole business handled with the particular skill that made itself invisible to anyone not specifically looking. She was specifically looking. She had been specifically looking for some months now and had grown reasonably confident in her ability to recognise the signature of care that went into work meant never to be noticed.

She did not ask what the panel was for. She suspected she would not be told, and she suspected further that asking would end the conversation considerably faster than it was already ending on its own.

“Could I leave a card?”

“You can leave a card.”

Gosie left a card. She did not expect it to produce anything and said as much to herself on the way back down the lane, past the poplars, past a gate that had been left slightly open in a way that felt less like carelessness than like a building that had stopped expecting visitors of any kind years ago and had simply never bothered to fix the latch.

She had the name confirmed. Fenhurst and Rhys was Fenella Burnish, working alone or nearly alone, out in the Fens, on glass that arrived and left the workshop without anyone outside it being told what it was or where it was going.

It was not nothing. It was, once again, simply not the answer.

Gosie stood at the end of the lane for a moment, looking back at the low roofline and its careful north facing skylights, and thought that a workshop this quiet, this well hidden, this thoroughly organised around not being asked questions, was either entirely uninteresting or was the most interesting thing she had found since Ripon.
She rather thought it was not the first one.

She took out her notebook. Fenhurst and Rhys, she wrote. Fenella Burnish. Then, because the workbench and the half leaded panel and the offcuts in blues and ambers were still sitting quite clearly in her mind, she sketched what she had seen and wrote underneath: worth watching.

Gosie put the notebook away and walked back towards the car. It was as she began the drive back towards the main drove that she realised where she was.

@ChristmasStars was not far from here. Gosie had been to the old farmhouse before, out beyond a line of wind bent trees with fen water glinting black beyond the fields, and she was fairly sure the workshop lane joined the same road eventually if she went west rather than back the way she’d come.

It seemed, on reflection, worth a detour.

https://myrtlelion.substack.com/p/5-out-in-the-fens

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Boiledbeetle · 31/07/2026 17:22

Ooh @MyrtleLion you snuck that in with NO WARNING!

Now I have to bookmark so that I can go to the loo and make a drink and get comfy!

MyrtleLion · 31/07/2026 17:25

Boiledbeetle · 31/07/2026 17:22

Ooh @MyrtleLion you snuck that in with NO WARNING!

Now I have to bookmark so that I can go to the loo and make a drink and get comfy!

How else am I going to keep you on your toes?! 💙

PastaAllaNorma · 31/07/2026 17:31

I only read Gosie on the Substack so I can sit down with an appropriate drink and a comfortable chair and no interruptions. It's the way forward, I promise you.

Magpiecomplex · 31/07/2026 17:32

Boiledbeetle · 31/07/2026 16:30

Does she still get ice cream if she drops socks?

And you know that's the dirty pair she was wearing when she was messing around in the goat paddock don't you. They aren't clean.

Thank you Gubbins, you were very helpful. Don't spoil your tea, though.

Ah. Too late. Sorry, Gubbins's mum...

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EmpressaurusKitty · 31/07/2026 17:33

I came to talk about why Norwegian Duolingo thinks knowing how to ask about going on a Big Wheel is more important than knowing how to check into a hotel. But this is a lot more interesting!

Magpiecomplex · 31/07/2026 17:41

EmpressaurusKitty · 31/07/2026 17:33

I came to talk about why Norwegian Duolingo thinks knowing how to ask about going on a Big Wheel is more important than knowing how to check into a hotel. But this is a lot more interesting!

Whose life would not be enriched by knowing how to ask about going on a Norwegian big wheel, though?

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EmpressaurusKitty · 31/07/2026 17:44

Unnskyld! Hvor er pariserhjul og hvor mye koster en billett, takk? All anyone needs for a Norwegian holiday.

Boiledbeetle · 31/07/2026 18:31

“I’ve come rather a long way,” said Gosie, which was true, and which she suspected would not help.

It did not help.

We've all been there Gosie.

Boiledbeetle · 31/07/2026 18:33

Magpiecomplex · 31/07/2026 17:32

Thank you Gubbins, you were very helpful. Don't spoil your tea, though.

Ah. Too late. Sorry, Gubbins's mum...

Have any of the gerbils actually admitted to being the mum of Gubbins? I know Gubbins said today that her mum was the catering manager, but we have a different one every day, and young gerbils are not known for being correct on these matters anyway.

Boiledbeetle · 31/07/2026 18:34

EmpressaurusKitty · 31/07/2026 17:44

Unnskyld! Hvor er pariserhjul og hvor mye koster en billett, takk? All anyone needs for a Norwegian holiday.

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Magpiecomplex · 31/07/2026 18:44

Boiledbeetle · 31/07/2026 18:34

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I can spot "and how much does a ticket cost" so I'm willing to risk it! Girls trip to Norway?

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EmpressaurusKitty · 31/07/2026 18:58

Excuse me! Where is the big wheel & how much does a ticket cost please?

Yes, I think we’re pretty much sorted! Although it’s never so much knowing how to ask the question as knowing how to understand the answer….

Boiledbeetle · 31/07/2026 19:02

EmpressaurusKitty · 31/07/2026 18:58

Excuse me! Where is the big wheel & how much does a ticket cost please?

Yes, I think we’re pretty much sorted! Although it’s never so much knowing how to ask the question as knowing how to understand the answer….

I'm more likely to need to know how to say, "can you get me the number of an English speaking lawyer" "may I ring the British Consulate?" " They are not my drugs" and "these handcuffs are too tight".

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 31/07/2026 19:03

EmpressaurusKitty · 31/07/2026 17:33

I came to talk about why Norwegian Duolingo thinks knowing how to ask about going on a Big Wheel is more important than knowing how to check into a hotel. But this is a lot more interesting!

I have done Latin on Duolingo, and can now converse easily about weasels running in the market place. As yet, this information has not had any practical application, but I live in hopes.

MyrtleLion · 31/07/2026 19:05

Boiledbeetle · 31/07/2026 18:31

“I’ve come rather a long way,” said Gosie, which was true, and which she suspected would not help.

It did not help.

We've all been there Gosie.

This is true.

FuzzyPuffling · 31/07/2026 19:06

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 31/07/2026 19:03

I have done Latin on Duolingo, and can now converse easily about weasels running in the market place. As yet, this information has not had any practical application, but I live in hopes.

Julia puella parva est.

First line of my school Latin primer. After that, it was lots of soldiers, farmers and wars.

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 31/07/2026 19:08

The only thing I remember from school Latin was something about ornamenting the tables with roses, @FuzzyPuffling.

I have adopted a Latin motto for myself - it is one for the Guild of Knitters, Crocheters and Yarn crafters - Favete Linguis - Ego Numero! Be quiet - I’m counting!

EmpressaurusKitty · 31/07/2026 19:09

Raeda in fossa haeret! Or was it haerat?

EmpressaurusKitty · 31/07/2026 19:34

The coach fell in the ditch, anyway. That’s more or less the only line I remember from school Latin.

I bet Gosie’s multilingual.

MyrtleLion · 31/07/2026 19:45

EmpressaurusKitty · 31/07/2026 19:34

The coach fell in the ditch, anyway. That’s more or less the only line I remember from school Latin.

I bet Gosie’s multilingual.

Well, yes. She trained in Japan and spent some time in France before embarking on the Hidden Symbol investigation. And then there’s probably German and Urdu and Punjabi, with more than a smattering of Arabic, and of course she is fluent in Spanish.

I must put those early episodes up on the Substack.

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