Trans Women are Real Women and Should Have Access to Women's Spaces

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Started because a thread on Girlguiding was getting too off topic.

I'm absolutely splitting my sides that a post in which I invited someone to reread an earlier post explaining subsective and privative modifiers got zapped. PSA: You can no longer say "is that all you've got?", apparently.

You do know that if you were dead and buried, in a 1000 years, archaeologists would be able to tell that you were a male?

Has anyone answered if a woman can be a Transwomen yet? I went away for a bit and come back to 190 posts and the thread being moved.

But how do you know you’re not a man? If man and woman are not objective sex categories, the statement is circular: “I’m a woman because I know I’m a woman.” It explains nothing.

You’re a woman because you’re female. A male person’s certainty that he is a woman does not make him female, however sincerely he believes it.

He didn’t get an easier life inside though did he ? He’s dead.

Fucking ridiculous. It was a good post. Continuing education even when schools out....

Absolutely the fuck not.

And also please, please, please MNHQ can we have the laughing emoji reaction back so I can pop it on everything OP posts? Because if you didn't laugh at his absolute bullshit, you'd have to cry.

“Cis” is just fringe gender jargon however, and the entire foundation it’s based on is highly disputed.

Nope. The idea of "woman brain" is incredibly sexist. Do better.

I have a friend who is a trans woman. Her penis has been surgically removed. She looks more feminine than I do (yes I am female as assigned at birth) but the law now states she has to use the male toilets

Yes, because your friend is male. Toilets are divided by sex. The Women’s toilet is for female people. It’s not for men who look feminine. The TW I know uses Male toilets because they wouldn’t dream of imposing on women.

Duplicate - obviously this thread has burnt out MN!

Ditto (see above)

Preeeeetty sure we are. I mean, last I checked, I'm still biologically female...

I didn't report the post but I don't think that part of it was the reason it got deleted.

Sex is not complicated. Humans are male or female; a trans identity neither creates a third sex nor moves someone between the two.

People’s lives and feelings can be complicated. The sex category needed for single-sex rights is not. Calling that fact “complicated” is how female boundaries become endlessly negotiable.

Take away “white, straight, old and young” and they’ll all still be women. Take away “trans” and they’ll all still be men.

Well it was the most offensive thing in it. The rest was inviting you to look back at my post explaining privative and subsective modifiers. Please do that now, and let us know your response.

If the jabs can help me shift from being a fat-women to being a slim-women. Am I a transwomen? Or am I simply a transfat women?

Sex is extremely complicated as with all aspects of human bodies and biology

there are lots of subsets of cows: porcine cows, canine cows, feline cows

I'm pretty sure it was the bit where you suggested I was a troll.

It is wrong to assume that every trans-identifying male is dangerous

I disagree. From a safeguarding of myself point of view I assume EVERY MALE, trans identifying ones and the rest, is dangerous. That is how I keep myself safe. I would never just assume a male was a safe person to be around. Every male, even the tiny scrawny ones, has the potential, and strength, to kill me in a way women do not.

When is this nonsense going to stop?

Feel free to live your life as you see fit but not at the cost of women. Women born women because anything else is entitled shit. That's it, in a nutshell.

I said that I was assuming you were not a troll.

Anyway, privative and subsective modifiers. Please read and report back.

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