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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

So many Irish women murdered in 2026

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SmallorBigorBigorSmall · 09/07/2026 00:55

More women murdered in Ireland between January and July 2026 than whole of 2025. Sad day for us and a worrying statistic when I think of DD. Another very violent death this week. Theres no answer but I know you all know how I feel.

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Gealach · 16/07/2026 22:32

DontWantACat · 16/07/2026 19:56

That’s always the argument. But it’s not that we don’t have enough people in the workforce, it’s that we don’t want to provide the proper pay, conditions and opportunities for Irish people to stay in the workforce.

About 650 doctors emigrate from Ireland every year, and approximately 27% of newly graduated nurses.

We have plenty of nurses, doctors and healthcare workers but we don’t want to pay them what they deserve. And who is the biggest employer of healthcare workers? That’s right, the Irish government!

Im not in anyway against fair immigration, it can add diversity and bring a skill set we don’t produce, but what’s happening now is beyond comprehension.

Jozef Puska was Slovak, had a right to free movement, but why was he allowed stay? He, and all of his family members were a drain on the state for the last 10 years and will be long into the future.

There’s plenty more people like him who haven’t murdered anyone that dont make headline news, I live near lots of them. We have lost complete control.

He was allowed to stay because he had worked here. He had actually worked in construction here and then was on disability after suffering an injury.

your all conflating EU freedom of movement, with immigration from around the world and also asylum seekers, these are all different things.

But the fact remains we don’t have enough people in the workforce and yes, we do need immigration right now.

honeyrider · 16/07/2026 23:34

Well a lot of the nurses coming from abroad are not as well trained as the Irish trained nurses yet they start on a higher pay grade than the Irish trained nurses.

Gealach · 16/07/2026 23:54

honeyrider · 16/07/2026 23:34

Well a lot of the nurses coming from abroad are not as well trained as the Irish trained nurses yet they start on a higher pay grade than the Irish trained nurses.

Where is the evidence for this? Everyone in the Irish health service is working under the same pay grades.

Indian nurses, who make up the bulk of the immigrant nursing workforce get excellent training.

DontWantACat · 17/07/2026 00:09

Gealach · 16/07/2026 22:32

He was allowed to stay because he had worked here. He had actually worked in construction here and then was on disability after suffering an injury.

your all conflating EU freedom of movement, with immigration from around the world and also asylum seekers, these are all different things.

But the fact remains we don’t have enough people in the workforce and yes, we do need immigration right now.

He had barely worked a day before he claimed he had a ‘slipped disk’, and lived off the benefits system thereafter. As did every single member of his depraved family. What kind of sick apologist are you?

How about if someone with free movement is ‘too injured to work’ we send them home? To claim from their own benefits system? Too wild a concept for you?

Freedom of movement, international protection, the right to asylum all need to be reevaluated imo. What we have allowed across Europe has been catastrophic. The data speaks for itself.

And maybe if we restricted immigration, the taxpayer bill for housing such people would reduce (€1.2bn on asylum accommodations alone last year), we would be able to pay our Irish nurses, doctors, teachers etc what they deserve, there would not be such pressure on our infrastructure like housing, GPs, hospitals, school places etc and our people would be incentivised and have the right to stay in their homelands, have reasonable expectation to buy a house and put down roots where they were born?

What exactly do you suggest we do? Keep doing what we’re doing? Because that’s the very definition of stupidity.

SmallorBigorBigorSmall · 17/07/2026 00:10

Gealach · 16/07/2026 22:32

He was allowed to stay because he had worked here. He had actually worked in construction here and then was on disability after suffering an injury.

your all conflating EU freedom of movement, with immigration from around the world and also asylum seekers, these are all different things.

But the fact remains we don’t have enough people in the workforce and yes, we do need immigration right now.

@Gealach you do sound suspiciously like the government / NGO as they also reply exactly like you do. And please dont justify Josef puzskas existence, he isnt worth it. Him and his family have leeched off Irish tax payers for years and gave nothing back. I and many others in this discussion have a different views to you and thats ok. I dont buy that we can't survive without the immigrants argument either, certainly not the approx 600,000 pps numbers that have been issued since 2020. I'd love to see critical analysis of the migration and immigration data in the media but that will never happen. Im with ppl who said theres a race to the bottom re wages and inward migration is facilitating it.

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honeyrider · 17/07/2026 00:13

Gealach · 16/07/2026 23:54

Where is the evidence for this? Everyone in the Irish health service is working under the same pay grades.

Indian nurses, who make up the bulk of the immigrant nursing workforce get excellent training.

They start on a higher grade, I have a family member in a very senior position in the HSE doing the contracts. I live in a different part of the country from this family member and rent out rooms to nurses, midwives and consultants and have heard the same from them.

DontWantACat · 17/07/2026 00:17

As an aside @Gealach… can I ask about your username? Do you actually speak Irish in your day to day? Do you generally espouse the values of the Irish people?

Waitingtoolong · 17/07/2026 01:15

DontWantACat · 17/07/2026 00:17

As an aside @Gealach… can I ask about your username? Do you actually speak Irish in your day to day? Do you generally espouse the values of the Irish people?

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Irish people don’t have a hive mind @DontWantACat.

Not sure what speaking Irish day to day has to do with the topic under discussion.
Maybe it’s just idle curiosity on your part, but I doubt it.

Emilesgran · 17/07/2026 06:32

Waitingtoolong · 17/07/2026 01:15

Irish people don’t have a hive mind @DontWantACat.

Not sure what speaking Irish day to day has to do with the topic under discussion.
Maybe it’s just idle curiosity on your part, but I doubt it.

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TBF it’s hard to see how someone who is defending the presence of the murderer Jozef Puska and his waste of space family in Ireland is not an actual enemy of the country. Like …why?

Which contradicts the rather nationalistic pseudo.

it’s all a bit odd.

DontWantACat · 17/07/2026 07:38

Waitingtoolong · 17/07/2026 01:15

Irish people don’t have a hive mind @DontWantACat.

Not sure what speaking Irish day to day has to do with the topic under discussion.
Maybe it’s just idle curiosity on your part, but I doubt it.

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It is idle curiosity tbh, the Irish word for moon is an unusual username. Unless the poster was trying for the Irish word for Irish and has the spelling wrong.

Waitingtoolong · 17/07/2026 08:16

Gealach was defending immigration @Emilesgran.

Calling yourself Moon isn’t nationalistic.

I don’t find Irish people using Irish language usernames to be unusual at all @DontWantACat. People often do it.

DontWantACat · 17/07/2026 08:49

Waitingtoolong · 17/07/2026 08:16

Gealach was defending immigration @Emilesgran.

Calling yourself Moon isn’t nationalistic.

I don’t find Irish people using Irish language usernames to be unusual at all @DontWantACat. People often do it.

Yes, defending the immigration, or rather the lack of actual implementation of the immigration policy, that allowed an entire family to leech off the state for 10 years and to then go on and brutally murder a wonderful young woman, and attempt to hide the murderer.

SmallorBigorBigorSmall · 17/07/2026 09:03

We got a bit derailed but back to where we started. There can be no disagreeing that broader data to include etnicity, religion is needed for serious crime such as murder or sexual assault and rape so that trends can be seen and our policing and laws and the judiciary can change any way they need to. It would also mean discussions like this are based on real data rather than theory and personal opinions.
The other side to this is that the vast majority of the irish media is unwilling or unable to present anything other than press releases from political parties and NGOs. There's no critical analysis or challenge to the narrative so we have moved from one homogenous catholic way of thinking to another homogenous uncritical way of thinking. Sad really but grateful for the Gript and Aontu and some TDs who challenge the narrative in a small way. I dont always agree with what they stand for but appreciate they dont toe the line.

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Margesimpsonsbeehive · 17/07/2026 09:31

Gealach · 16/07/2026 22:32

He was allowed to stay because he had worked here. He had actually worked in construction here and then was on disability after suffering an injury.

your all conflating EU freedom of movement, with immigration from around the world and also asylum seekers, these are all different things.

But the fact remains we don’t have enough people in the workforce and yes, we do need immigration right now.

That's not true. He never worked in Ireland. He had worked in construction in Moldova and Prague but never in Ireland.
Neither did his wife, his 2 brothers and their wives. The judge in the brother's trial actually questioned them about this.
Puska spent his time sleeping late and gambling.
The brothers days consisted of sleeping late and drinking coffee.
The combined family income is believed to have been 2,500 euro a week in social welfare. That's 130,000 a year in addition to the house and medical cards they received.
The women didn't work because it was part of their culture to stay at home. A luxury most Irish mothers cannot afford to choose.
Puska,as an EU citizen had the right to enter Ireland, but Ireland has the right to deport EU citizens who are an unreasonable burden. This is almost never done. Clearly this family were here for one reason only and that was for the social welfare benefits. They knew how to play the system.

Emilesgran · 17/07/2026 09:57

Waitingtoolong · 17/07/2026 08:16

Gealach was defending immigration @Emilesgran.

Calling yourself Moon isn’t nationalistic.

I don’t find Irish people using Irish language usernames to be unusual at all @DontWantACat. People often do it.

I wasn’t using nationalist in a negative sense. Unless we now think Irish nationalism is bad per se, which I don’t. I would always describe myself as a nationalist (since I’m no longer catholic I’m not sure how else to describe the values of the place/society I grew up in in NI, and I don’t disavow most of those values even now.

But I do think that choosing a user ID that’s in Irish on what is essentially a UK website with an international aspect, not Irish at all really, is making quite a strong statement about oneself: either the person is from a Gaeltacht area, or they are promoting their “Irishness”. That’s nationalism.

So it’s reasonable to ask whether they’re one of the tiny minority in Ireland that uses Irish as their main language because they were born/grew up in the Gaeltacht, or whether they’re making a political statement.

Ascribing negative intentions to someone asking that is not reasonable. Though it could just be an English person who doesn’t understand the connotations.

Emilesgran · 17/07/2026 10:18

SmallorBigorBigorSmall · 17/07/2026 09:03

We got a bit derailed but back to where we started. There can be no disagreeing that broader data to include etnicity, religion is needed for serious crime such as murder or sexual assault and rape so that trends can be seen and our policing and laws and the judiciary can change any way they need to. It would also mean discussions like this are based on real data rather than theory and personal opinions.
The other side to this is that the vast majority of the irish media is unwilling or unable to present anything other than press releases from political parties and NGOs. There's no critical analysis or challenge to the narrative so we have moved from one homogenous catholic way of thinking to another homogenous uncritical way of thinking. Sad really but grateful for the Gript and Aontu and some TDs who challenge the narrative in a small way. I dont always agree with what they stand for but appreciate they dont toe the line.

Off topic again, but I think Gript has lost massively with the departure of John McGuirk, and for the very worst reasons, ie they couldn’t accept his refusal to toe the line on Israel/Gaza. So much for free speech.

OTOH I happened to hear McGuirk speak a couple of years ago, and he is actually a really impressive speaker.

I believed for years that he was just an Iona style bot because that was the narrative we were all fed by RTE and the IT (back when I thought they were serious journalists rather than activists).

Anyway, back on topic: it’s clear that while the government refuses to compile, never mind make public, data on ethnicity and nationality of criminals and even the overall cost-benefit ratio when dependents are taken into account, they are enabling far right exploitation of people’s personal experience and fears. Because while obviously anecdotes are not data, in the absence of data, they are all people have to form their opinions.

Waitingtoolong · 17/07/2026 11:11

Emilesgran · 17/07/2026 09:57

I wasn’t using nationalist in a negative sense. Unless we now think Irish nationalism is bad per se, which I don’t. I would always describe myself as a nationalist (since I’m no longer catholic I’m not sure how else to describe the values of the place/society I grew up in in NI, and I don’t disavow most of those values even now.

But I do think that choosing a user ID that’s in Irish on what is essentially a UK website with an international aspect, not Irish at all really, is making quite a strong statement about oneself: either the person is from a Gaeltacht area, or they are promoting their “Irishness”. That’s nationalism.

So it’s reasonable to ask whether they’re one of the tiny minority in Ireland that uses Irish as their main language because they were born/grew up in the Gaeltacht, or whether they’re making a political statement.

Ascribing negative intentions to someone asking that is not reasonable. Though it could just be an English person who doesn’t understand the connotations.

But I do think that choosing a user ID that’s in Irish on what is essentially a UK website with an international aspect, not Irish at all really, is making quite a strong statement about oneself: either the person is from a Gaeltacht area, or they are promoting their “Irishness”. That’s nationalism.

I disagree that it’s making a strong statement @Emilesgran, For many Irish people, using a few words of Irish is just part of everyday life. I do so myself and am not from a Gaeltacht area and am far from a fluent speaker. It’s normal for me and not at all political.

However, opinions will vary from person to person and I also think growing up in NI vs ROI will influence that too. The language seems to be much more a political statement in the north than it is in the south of the country where I am.

Anyway, this is straying far from the point of the thread now so I’ll shut up.

Emilesgran · 17/07/2026 11:35

Waitingtoolong · 17/07/2026 11:11

But I do think that choosing a user ID that’s in Irish on what is essentially a UK website with an international aspect, not Irish at all really, is making quite a strong statement about oneself: either the person is from a Gaeltacht area, or they are promoting their “Irishness”. That’s nationalism.

I disagree that it’s making a strong statement @Emilesgran, For many Irish people, using a few words of Irish is just part of everyday life. I do so myself and am not from a Gaeltacht area and am far from a fluent speaker. It’s normal for me and not at all political.

However, opinions will vary from person to person and I also think growing up in NI vs ROI will influence that too. The language seems to be much more a political statement in the north than it is in the south of the country where I am.

Anyway, this is straying far from the point of the thread now so I’ll shut up.

And yet you didn’t call yourself (ag) Fanachtrófhada. Not on this site anyway. 😀

Waitingtoolong · 17/07/2026 13:24

Emilesgran · 17/07/2026 11:35

And yet you didn’t call yourself (ag) Fanachtrófhada. Not on this site anyway. 😀

I do sometimes use Irish language passwords and usernames actually, but mostly English it’s true.

BruachAbhann · 17/07/2026 13:33

Waitingtoolong · 17/07/2026 11:11

But I do think that choosing a user ID that’s in Irish on what is essentially a UK website with an international aspect, not Irish at all really, is making quite a strong statement about oneself: either the person is from a Gaeltacht area, or they are promoting their “Irishness”. That’s nationalism.

I disagree that it’s making a strong statement @Emilesgran, For many Irish people, using a few words of Irish is just part of everyday life. I do so myself and am not from a Gaeltacht area and am far from a fluent speaker. It’s normal for me and not at all political.

However, opinions will vary from person to person and I also think growing up in NI vs ROI will influence that too. The language seems to be much more a political statement in the north than it is in the south of the country where I am.

Anyway, this is straying far from the point of the thread now so I’ll shut up.

I agree with this. It never dawned on me that I might be making some sort of political statement when I chose my username. I wanted to signal that I was Irish though, and that I was coming from that point of view when I posted about gender critical topics for example. I'm not from a Gaeltacht area either but do speak a bit of Irish casually with family.

Emilesgran · 17/07/2026 14:06

BruachAbhann · 17/07/2026 13:33

I agree with this. It never dawned on me that I might be making some sort of political statement when I chose my username. I wanted to signal that I was Irish though, and that I was coming from that point of view when I posted about gender critical topics for example. I'm not from a Gaeltacht area either but do speak a bit of Irish casually with family.

I wanted to signal that I was Irish though

So it does mean something, which was my point. I wasn’t saying it meant someone was in the IRA or anything. 😆

BruachAbhann · 17/07/2026 14:48

Emilesgran · 17/07/2026 14:06

I wanted to signal that I was Irish though

So it does mean something, which was my point. I wasn’t saying it meant someone was in the IRA or anything. 😆

You said:
'So it’s reasonable to ask whether they’re one of the tiny minority in Ireland that uses Irish as their main language because they were born/grew up in the Gaeltacht, or whether they’re making a political statement.'

I personally am not from the Gaeltacht nor was I making any political statement. I think you're reaching a bit to assume that of anyone who chooses an Irish username.

Emilesgran · 17/07/2026 15:15

BruachAbhann · 17/07/2026 14:48

You said:
'So it’s reasonable to ask whether they’re one of the tiny minority in Ireland that uses Irish as their main language because they were born/grew up in the Gaeltacht, or whether they’re making a political statement.'

I personally am not from the Gaeltacht nor was I making any political statement. I think you're reaching a bit to assume that of anyone who chooses an Irish username.

I would say that is a political statement (and one I see nothing wrong with, quite the opposite - but also, you’re not defending the presence of Jozef Puska and his wastrel family in Ireland on the grounds that “Ireland needs migrants” are you?

SmallorBigorBigorSmall · 17/07/2026 15:29

The back and forth isnt adding to the discussion. Can it stop as we were doing so well and go back to how data and policy can rise above dogma and narrative

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Waitingtoolong · 17/07/2026 15:30

I think perhaps it’s because you’re from NI that you see it as a political statement @Emilesgran. Like @BruachAbhann I don’t see it as one.

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