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Transgender women will not be prosecuted in the use of women’s single sex facilities

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Theotheruser · Yesterday 14:11

You can support transgender rights or not but the law isn’t itself politics. Transgender women will not be prosecuted in the use of women’s single sex facilities in public in the standard use the facilities was built for.

A standard use is:

  • A transgender woman goes into the women’s toilet facilities in a cubicle for the purposes of relieving bodily fluids.
  • A transgender woman goes into the women’s changing facilities in a cubicle for the purposes of removing clothing for leisure activities.
  • A transgender woman goes into the women’s toilet facilities to protect the transgender women of being attacked or sexually assaulted.

A transgender woman in the standard uses of the women’s facilities are not exposing the users of the single sex facilities.

A transgender woman in the standard uses of the women’s facilities are not exposing child users in the single sex facilities.

A child user using single sex women’s facilities can’t deny other women public access of the facilities the child user believes are transgender.

With official documentation of the new sex will be difficult to disprove the claim of the transgender women being the male sex.

No harassment or sexual offences can be found against the transgender woman in the standard use of the women’s facilities with official documentation of the new sex.

A woman in the women’s single sex facility can be prosecuted for an offence and or removed if the woman is abusing or harassing the other user of being transgender without proof.

A woman recording and sharing publicly the other user without proof of being transgender can prosecuted.

The Supreme Court ruling or EHRC guidance has not changed the law to prosecute transgender women in women’s single sex spaces.

Transgender women have history of official records to support beyond a reasonable doubt the new gender identity. Have protection of gender discrimination.

Prosecution of transgender women is not going to work in the standard uses of the women’s facilities.

A woman can complain to management but unless management decides to take action to resolve the issue no action can be taken against the other user.

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TrainedByTheBiddyMafia · Yesterday 22:48

don’t forget to put in a storage closet in the disabled loo

Boiledbeetle · Yesterday 22:48

GriseldaandMike · Yesterday 22:47

The anaconda ate them all, sorry (the gerbils that is).

Edited

I knew it! It was inevitable really though!

murasaki · Yesterday 22:50

Boiledbeetle · Yesterday 22:48

I knew it! It was inevitable really though!

But he was a gerbil, just like all the other gerbils! But better!

murasaki · Yesterday 22:51

TrainedByTheBiddyMafia · Yesterday 22:48

don’t forget to put in a storage closet in the disabled loo

True, Gray was literally forced out of the closet.

BiologicalRobot · Yesterday 22:51

Ereshkigalangcleg · Yesterday 21:56

What about Dave?

I have no idea who Dave is Confused. I was too fixated on the plumbing and that Gary had probably deliberately buggered it up. Isn't that a sacking offence? That would solve everyone's problems for a while.

GriseldaandMike · Yesterday 22:53

Boiledbeetle · Yesterday 22:48

I knew it! It was inevitable really though!

I think it could have averted if a suitable gerbil wheel was supplied for Ana and her true inner feels were validated by all the gerbil bigots. She was bound to go full snake eventually if they wouldn't embrace her inner gerbilness.

murasaki · Yesterday 22:53

BiologicalRobot · Yesterday 22:51

I have no idea who Dave is Confused. I was too fixated on the plumbing and that Gary had probably deliberately buggered it up. Isn't that a sacking offence? That would solve everyone's problems for a while.

HR would probably promote him.

Ereshkigalangcleg · Yesterday 22:54

murasaki · Yesterday 22:46

Venue: JKR's yacht
Menu: kfc

Which one of JKR’s yachts and which evil person was its previous owner?

murasaki · Yesterday 22:54

GriseldaandMike · Yesterday 22:53

I think it could have averted if a suitable gerbil wheel was supplied for Ana and her true inner feels were validated by all the gerbil bigots. She was bound to go full snake eventually if they wouldn't embrace her inner gerbilness.

They never can hide the snake for long. Pink leggings weren't the best choice, mind.

murasaki · Yesterday 22:55

Ereshkigalangcleg · Yesterday 22:54

Which one of JKR’s yachts and which evil person was its previous owner?

The billionaire's repose.
Pol Pot. But he bought it off Idi Amin.

Boiledbeetle · Yesterday 22:56

BiologicalRobot · Yesterday 22:51

I have no idea who Dave is Confused. I was too fixated on the plumbing and that Gary had probably deliberately buggered it up. Isn't that a sacking offence? That would solve everyone's problems for a while.

Dave was the guy from accounts.

GriseldaandMike · Yesterday 22:56

BiologicalRobot · Yesterday 22:51

I have no idea who Dave is Confused. I was too fixated on the plumbing and that Gary had probably deliberately buggered it up. Isn't that a sacking offence? That would solve everyone's problems for a while.

Apparently in this 'OK' work place when the risk assessment says a member of staff is unsafe around other staff it isn't a sacking offence so it's unlikely that excessive toilet paper use is.

Lilimoon · Yesterday 22:56

Please can I play the tree? I have no discernable talent but am willing to attempt some interpretive dance. TYVM.

Boiledbeetle · Yesterday 22:58

Lilimoon · Yesterday 22:56

Please can I play the tree? I have no discernable talent but am willing to attempt some interpretive dance. TYVM.

You are welcome to the tree role. I still remember refusing to sway like a tree at age 4. So not a role I am in any way suited for.

BridgetPhillipsonIsACowardlyJobsworth · Yesterday 22:59

And here I thought this thread couldn't get any stranger! I now want to see the off-Broadway show!

GriseldaandMike · Yesterday 23:01

Lilimoon · Yesterday 22:56

Please can I play the tree? I have no discernable talent but am willing to attempt some interpretive dance. TYVM.

Can I play the SC? "Oh yeah the laws the law unless you'd prefer to ignore it and have a vote in the break room. You can have one free murder too if you can prove the victim was really annoying and probably deserved it."

BiologicalRobot · Yesterday 23:01

GriseldaandMike · Yesterday 22:56

Apparently in this 'OK' work place when the risk assessment says a member of staff is unsafe around other staff it isn't a sacking offence so it's unlikely that excessive toilet paper use is.

How do you know it was excessive toilet paper and not something else? Were you there?

< gasps > ARE YOU GARY??

murasaki · Yesterday 23:02

I'm not getting on stage, but am happy to submit some sub par Gilbert and Sullivanesque lyrics and tunes for consideration. And I wouldn't have a hissy fit if they're rejected.

GriseldaandMike · Yesterday 23:03

BiologicalRobot · Yesterday 23:01

How do you know it was excessive toilet paper and not something else? Were you there?

< gasps > ARE YOU GARY??

I'm Gary, I mean Gray, I mean Sparticus, I mean a gerbil. Except on Tuesdays when I'm a woman.

murasaki · Yesterday 23:05

Look, this has Tony award material written all over it. Possibly an Oscar if we can get it filmed.

Boiledbeetle · Yesterday 23:06

murasaki · Yesterday 23:05

Look, this has Tony award material written all over it. Possibly an Oscar if we can get it filmed.

And if it doesn't win one, we'll just tell everyone it won an Oscar. No one will ever know!

Seethlaw · Yesterday 23:09

Boiledbeetle · Yesterday 23:06

And if it doesn't win one, we'll just tell everyone it won an Oscar. No one will ever know!

All we need is to identify as having won an Oscar; that's how it works, right?

murasaki · Yesterday 23:09

Boiledbeetle · Yesterday 23:06

And if it doesn't win one, we'll just tell everyone it won an Oscar. No one will ever know!

It will definitely identify as having won one.

GriseldaandMike · Yesterday 23:10

I identify as an EGOT so I am one.

Marieb19 · Yesterday 23:19

Oh FFS - the game is up. The Supreme Court had confirmed that the Equality Act (and its directives regarding single sex spaces) means biological sex, not feelings or fetishes. Female spaces exist to keep women safe from male aggression on sex crimes and women should NEVER be compelled to participate in someone else's perversion.