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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Transgender women will not be prosecuted in the use of women’s single sex facilities

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Theotheruser · Yesterday 14:11

You can support transgender rights or not but the law isn’t itself politics. Transgender women will not be prosecuted in the use of women’s single sex facilities in public in the standard use the facilities was built for.

A standard use is:

  • A transgender woman goes into the women’s toilet facilities in a cubicle for the purposes of relieving bodily fluids.
  • A transgender woman goes into the women’s changing facilities in a cubicle for the purposes of removing clothing for leisure activities.
  • A transgender woman goes into the women’s toilet facilities to protect the transgender women of being attacked or sexually assaulted.

A transgender woman in the standard uses of the women’s facilities are not exposing the users of the single sex facilities.

A transgender woman in the standard uses of the women’s facilities are not exposing child users in the single sex facilities.

A child user using single sex women’s facilities can’t deny other women public access of the facilities the child user believes are transgender.

With official documentation of the new sex will be difficult to disprove the claim of the transgender women being the male sex.

No harassment or sexual offences can be found against the transgender woman in the standard use of the women’s facilities with official documentation of the new sex.

A woman in the women’s single sex facility can be prosecuted for an offence and or removed if the woman is abusing or harassing the other user of being transgender without proof.

A woman recording and sharing publicly the other user without proof of being transgender can prosecuted.

The Supreme Court ruling or EHRC guidance has not changed the law to prosecute transgender women in women’s single sex spaces.

Transgender women have history of official records to support beyond a reasonable doubt the new gender identity. Have protection of gender discrimination.

Prosecution of transgender women is not going to work in the standard uses of the women’s facilities.

A woman can complain to management but unless management decides to take action to resolve the issue no action can be taken against the other user.

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CityonFire · Yesterday 22:15

Boiledbeetle · Yesterday 22:13

Ouch.

Sending virtual painkillers your way

💊💊💊💊

Thanks. I’m over the worst now but I might milk it a bit longer to get a long lie in while DH takes the dogs out tomorrow!

murasaki · Yesterday 22:15

The brightest and best are really stretching the definition of those words this weekend, aren't they.

Seethlaw · Yesterday 22:16

Boiledbeetle · Yesterday 22:11

Can I ask that you include a beetle infestation in the disabled toilets at which point everyone discovers I don't actually live in deepest darkest Peru but in Hayes Travel's toilets in Rotherhithe

Oooh, nice touch! takes notes Do you want to play a specific role in the plot?

Boiledbeetle · Yesterday 22:16

CityonFire · Yesterday 22:15

Thanks. I’m over the worst now but I might milk it a bit longer to get a long lie in while DH takes the dogs out tomorrow!

He has no need to know its easing off.

Boiledbeetle · Yesterday 22:17

Seethlaw · Yesterday 22:16

Oooh, nice touch! takes notes Do you want to play a specific role in the plot?

I could be the unfortunate witness to how exactly Gary blocked the toilet I suppose

murasaki · Yesterday 22:18

It's like an invasion made up entirely of pound shop Private Pikes.

Theotheruser · Yesterday 22:18

Seethlaw · Yesterday 22:06

I'm a fanfic writer. I think the story of Pete the macho plumber, and Gary the soft trans woman who is afraid to use the men's, who meet over Gary's repeated sabotage of the disabled's toilets, could find its public!

Gary is 35 years old and 78kg. Pete is 25 years old has been in army and now a plumber.

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Seethlaw · Yesterday 22:23

Boiledbeetle · Yesterday 22:17

I could be the unfortunate witness to how exactly Gary blocked the toilet I suppose

You could even be the narrator! I imagine the story beginning with you describing Gary's varied methods of blocking the toilet, and your complete confusion over it... A beetle point of view to tell a tale of queer human love: forget publishing it as just an original work on AO3: I think I've got an award-winning book on my hands here!

Seethlaw · Yesterday 22:24

Theotheruser · Yesterday 22:18

Gary is 35 years old and 78kg. Pete is 25 years old has been in army and now a plumber.

A small age gap, with the younger one as the tougher one, that's some good stuff right there!

CityonFire · Yesterday 22:25

Seethlaw · Yesterday 22:23

You could even be the narrator! I imagine the story beginning with you describing Gary's varied methods of blocking the toilet, and your complete confusion over it... A beetle point of view to tell a tale of queer human love: forget publishing it as just an original work on AO3: I think I've got an award-winning book on my hands here!

I’d read it.

TrainedByTheBiddyMafia · Yesterday 22:31

Might need to rename our male lead as there’s just so few Gary’s these days, I prefer Gray

Ereshkigalangcleg · Yesterday 22:33

“Gray” sounds like the anti hero of a 90s bodice ripper set in Savannah, Georgia

Boiledbeetle · Yesterday 22:34

Seethlaw · Yesterday 22:23

You could even be the narrator! I imagine the story beginning with you describing Gary's varied methods of blocking the toilet, and your complete confusion over it... A beetle point of view to tell a tale of queer human love: forget publishing it as just an original work on AO3: I think I've got an award-winning book on my hands here!

Well, I've seen Blood Brothers so many times I know the script backwards and I love the narrator role in that.

So did you hear the story of the toilet two
Aligned together by Gary's poo.
Of one u bend broke on the very day
That one came out as trans and the other gay.
And did you never hear of the toilet two
Never knowing that they shared one fate
Until the day the u bend broke
And a woman cried "thats really a bloke"

Ereshkigalangcleg · Yesterday 22:34

Gray, Gary, what’s a stray r between friends?

murasaki · Yesterday 22:35

Ereshkigalangcleg · Yesterday 22:33

“Gray” sounds like the anti hero of a 90s bodice ripper set in Savannah, Georgia

Gray was a triple murderer in Eastenders, definitely not safe around women, just saying 😂

Seethlaw · Yesterday 22:36

TrainedByTheBiddyMafia · Yesterday 22:31

Might need to rename our male lead as there’s just so few Gary’s these days, I prefer Gray

You make a good point. Gray sounds great!

@Ereshkigalangcleg

“Gray” sounds like the anti hero of a 90s bodice ripper set in Savannah, Georgia

I hope that wasn't supposed to be an objection, because it only makes it sound even better :P

CityonFire · Yesterday 22:38

Puts a whole new spin on Gray’s Anatomy.

GriseldaandMike · Yesterday 22:38

Could Gray be an aspiring rap artiste? Fiddy shades?

Ereshkigalangcleg · Yesterday 22:38

No it was just an observation 🤣 based on experience

murasaki · Yesterday 22:40

Gray was just a normal girl
He liked to wear a skirt
He blocked the one disabled bog
His turd so big it hurt.
The ladies was his next best choice
So then he pranced right in
And all the women cheered as Gray
Stole tampax from the bin.

Seethlaw · Yesterday 22:41

still taking notes The beetle is a poet... Gray is a multiple murderer's name: source of angst? Possibly expressed through rap? ...

murasaki · Yesterday 22:43

Seethlaw · Yesterday 22:41

still taking notes The beetle is a poet... Gray is a multiple murderer's name: source of angst? Possibly expressed through rap? ...

It's going to be a stone cold classic!

Boiledbeetle · Yesterday 22:44

Seethlaw · Yesterday 22:41

still taking notes The beetle is a poet... Gray is a multiple murderer's name: source of angst? Possibly expressed through rap? ...

It's going to be so good

Do you reckon it will be ready soon? The gerbils have already pencilled in the last weekend in August for the opening night. Just a read through to a drunk audience of heckling women so it will be fine if its still rough around the edges.

murasaki · Yesterday 22:46

Boiledbeetle · Yesterday 22:44

It's going to be so good

Do you reckon it will be ready soon? The gerbils have already pencilled in the last weekend in August for the opening night. Just a read through to a drunk audience of heckling women so it will be fine if its still rough around the edges.

Venue: JKR's yacht
Menu: kfc

GriseldaandMike · Yesterday 22:47

Boiledbeetle · Yesterday 22:44

It's going to be so good

Do you reckon it will be ready soon? The gerbils have already pencilled in the last weekend in August for the opening night. Just a read through to a drunk audience of heckling women so it will be fine if its still rough around the edges.

The anaconda ate them all, sorry (the gerbils that is).