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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Rowling Makes a Stand

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JadeLeader · Today 01:06

Ok, so I know the educated classes hate us and our Dear Leader, but she's really not doing herself any favours here...

Rowling Makes a Stand
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Seethlaw · Today 06:47

EmilyinEverton · Today 02:19

And let's not forget the Nazis systematically destroyed the world's first extensive body of transgender medical research and gender-affirming healthcare.

"In a calculated campaign, Nazi stormtroopers looted and burned the Institut für Sexualwissenschaft (Institute for Sexual Science) in Berlin. Directed by pioneering sexologist Magnus Hirschfeld, the institute was a global hub for early transgender care, where doctors provided hormone therapies and performed early gender-affirming surgeries. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7]
The Nazis carted off and burned tens of thousands of books, patient case histories, and research notes, severely crippling the global scientific understanding of transgender identities for decades. Along with destroying the research, the regime deported transgender individuals to concentration camps, subjecting them to extreme abuse, forced castration, and medical experimentation"

And just think about, JK Rowling like all other GC thought leaders has no expertise in the medical or psychological professions & has positioned herself as authority over them to be "taken down" in a 'war'. Even the much politicised Cass report acknowledged trans people exist.

The self important megalomania is breathtaking .

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subjecting them to extreme abuse, forced castration, and medical experimentation

You mean, like gender doctors do to kids? Quite telling indeed...

Cailin66 · Today 06:47

EmilyinEverton · Today 02:19

And let's not forget the Nazis systematically destroyed the world's first extensive body of transgender medical research and gender-affirming healthcare.

"In a calculated campaign, Nazi stormtroopers looted and burned the Institut für Sexualwissenschaft (Institute for Sexual Science) in Berlin. Directed by pioneering sexologist Magnus Hirschfeld, the institute was a global hub for early transgender care, where doctors provided hormone therapies and performed early gender-affirming surgeries. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7]
The Nazis carted off and burned tens of thousands of books, patient case histories, and research notes, severely crippling the global scientific understanding of transgender identities for decades. Along with destroying the research, the regime deported transgender individuals to concentration camps, subjecting them to extreme abuse, forced castration, and medical experimentation"

And just think about, JK Rowling like all other GC thought leaders has no expertise in the medical or psychological professions & has positioned herself as authority over them to be "taken down" in a 'war'. Even the much politicised Cass report acknowledged trans people exist.

The self important megalomania is breathtaking .

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She does know what a woman is though.

NeelyOHara · Today 06:50

Manxexile · Today 02:22

I took her to mean WPATH were the Nazis in this analogy...

Isn't that obvious?

Not if you are thick as pigshit, apparently.

Tontostitis · Today 06:52

EmilyinEverton · Today 02:26

Are you suggesting the Cass report that recommended PB trials is 'Nazified'?

You can't have it both ways.

Course they can they can just identify as each but in turn.. No need for consistency here just what suits when it suits and bobs your aunty.

ThePM · Today 07:09

JadeLeader · Today 01:47

Spot on, thank you.

Nope, Stalingrad was a place of resistance after years of Nazi/(genderist) attack.

They sustained themselves and then fought back when the external environment which had previously supported the Nazis (genderists in this analogy) rather cooled and turned in favour of Stalingrad.

Anyway, I’m invoking that law about mentioning Nazis on the internet.

Those who support gender identity in society aren’t the victims here at all.

sohard · Today 07:36

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Oh maaaaate. The irony. 😂😂😂

Sandysandybeaches · Today 07:36

She is comparing gc women standing up to the assault on women’s rights, enduring and eventually winning, to the people of stalingrad who stood firm despite terrible conditions against attack from nazis and eventually won, making a turning point in wwII and helping defeat the nazis (in her analogy TRAs) I’d have thought that was obvious!

Motnight · Today 07:38

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How to win friends and influence people.

sickofsixseven · Today 07:44

EmilyinEverton · Today 02:23

Not if you know anything about the history of the Nazi's & how they 'handled' trans research & trans people.

Oh is this the part where we rewrite history and pretend the holocaust was actually really all about trans people and not the jews at all? 🙄

BunnyBunbunbun · Today 07:50

Not sure what the problem is here. The Battle of Stalingrad is well known as being a gruelling battle that the Nazis lost and this led to a re-evaluation of their alleged military supremacy. It's become a byword for facing a tough battle, sticking it out and eventually coming out on top.

TRAs are so ignorant of history and routinely throw out terms like "Nazi", "genocide" and "right wing" to cover up the fact that they have no arguments to back up their ideology, of course they wouldn't understand what Rowling is saying here.

And, most importantly, WPATH really does need to be exposed and dismantled. It's a disgusting organisation that has caused so much harm. TRAs are particularly ferocious when WPATH is criticised because it's what provides most of the dubious "science" and "medical opinion" that they point to to justify their beliefs and get health authorities, lawmakers, etc. to adopt so-called "gender-affirming care".

Theeyeballsinthesky · Today 07:52

Sandysandybeaches · Today 07:36

She is comparing gc women standing up to the assault on women’s rights, enduring and eventually winning, to the people of stalingrad who stood firm despite terrible conditions against attack from nazis and eventually won, making a turning point in wwII and helping defeat the nazis (in her analogy TRAs) I’d have thought that was obvious!

It is unless you're a TRA but then TRA think men magically become women so the stupidity comes as standard!

teawamutu · Today 07:58

Jeez. You check in with MN after a lovely sleep, only to discover that someone <glares pointedly over spectacles> has been feeding 50ps into the dickhead machine.

Shedmistress · Today 08:16

Oh TRAs, I'm literally cringeing for you and your lack of understanding of the point being made.

Imdunfer · Today 08:16

Can I ask the trans warriors on this thread, does it shore up your determination to make other people believe you have become a woman to come onto a predominantly female forum insulting the genuine article?

Because, you know, that's actually a pretty masculine thing to do, invade and attack.

teawamutu · Today 08:17

Imdunfer · Today 08:16

Can I ask the trans warriors on this thread, does it shore up your determination to make other people believe you have become a woman to come onto a predominantly female forum insulting the genuine article?

Because, you know, that's actually a pretty masculine thing to do, invade and attack.

<Basil Fawlty stage whisper> Don't mention the war.

Cailin66 · Today 08:25

Motnight · Today 07:38

How to win friends and influence people.

What was in the post and was it Everton who posted it?

Edit: I see a load of posts were deleted. I know what Everton posted about JKR..

MonetsLilac · Today 08:33

Sandysandybeaches · Today 07:36

She is comparing gc women standing up to the assault on women’s rights, enduring and eventually winning, to the people of stalingrad who stood firm despite terrible conditions against attack from nazis and eventually won, making a turning point in wwII and helping defeat the nazis (in her analogy TRAs) I’d have thought that was obvious!

Thank you, yes, you'd think it was obvious.
Not to some, apparently.

CrashBash · Today 08:35

Shedmistress · Today 08:16

Oh TRAs, I'm literally cringeing for you and your lack of understanding of the point being made.

They’re just so stupid aren’t they?

Shedmistress · Today 08:41

EmilyinEverton · Today 01:46

This is such a wild analogy. The Nazis were on the offence in the Battle of Stalingrad, making her side the Nazis in this analogy, and she chose a battle the attackers lost so soundly after committing so much to that it stopped their advance completely.

My good fellow.

The Offence has and always has been WPATH and their march through the institutions.

The Defence is the people trying to keep them away from kids

The Weapon in this scanario is lawfare.

Even you must be able to work that out.

YeahNoBut · Today 08:44

Imdunfer · Today 08:16

Can I ask the trans warriors on this thread, does it shore up your determination to make other people believe you have become a woman to come onto a predominantly female forum insulting the genuine article?

Because, you know, that's actually a pretty masculine thing to do, invade and attack.

It’s a signature, isn’t it?!?

StraightTalkingTina · Today 08:44

EmilyinEverton · Today 02:23

Not if you know anything about the history of the Nazi's & how they 'handled' trans research & trans people.

Which had nothing to do with Stalingrad.

You seem to ignore the Russians were there too.

PrizedPickledPopcorn · Today 08:45

NotBadConsidering · Today 02:39

JKR consistently asks of the public “how many of you are quite dim?”

And along comes @JadeLeader and @EmilyinEverton with their hands up saying “Me! Me! Me!”

Honestly, are you not embarrassed to publicly declare your misunderstanding so openly 😂😂

It’s just a knee jerk behaviour, reflex, or maybe muscle memory. “Me, me, me!”

Imdunfer · Today 08:46

EmilyinEverton · Today 01:38

JK & her delusions of grandeur at it again. First the Suffragettes, then Churchill & now Stalingrad.

Hero complex much?

You have to wonder about her motivations here with this overkill, is this really about women's rights? Or an attempt at long lost relevance again?

Do you know what Emily?

As a woman I don't give a shit what her current motivation is.

I am just eternally grateful that she used her wealth and fame to remove men from women's sports and let lesbians have clubs that people with a penis can't join.

If she helps women keep men out of their single use spaces and single use swimming pools and other leisure activities, then more power to her elbow.

Your problem with her, of course, is that she is winning.

DustyWindowsills · Today 08:48

Cheers OP. I'm not on X, so I would have missed this one. 👏🏻

Wishesandhorses · Today 08:48

Oh, oh, she said something that with no historical understanding whatsoever and a lot of downloaded claptrap, a crowbar or three and a whole lot of squinting could possibly be made to suggest she's evil! We ride at dawn!