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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Rowling Makes a Stand

246 replies

JadeLeader · Today 01:06

Ok, so I know the educated classes hate us and our Dear Leader, but she's really not doing herself any favours here...

Rowling Makes a Stand
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Shortshriftandlethal · Today 09:50

The Nazis were deeply hypocritical.....and many of the leaders were regularly, compulsively engaged with Weimar Republic type seediness and/or sexual sadism.

EmilyinEverton · Today 09:53

Seethlaw · Today 09:49

the Nazi regime violently persecuted LGBTQ+ people

Please give examples of GC people being violent towards LGBTQ+ people. And no, saying, "transwomen are men" is not violence; it's just a fact/opinion.

The Nazis shut down queer networks, ransacked facilities like the Institute for Sexual Science, and imprisoned tens of thousands of queer individuals in concentration camps, forcing them to wear pink triangles.

Please give examples of GC people shutting anything down, ransacking anything, imprisoning anyone, or forcing anyone to wear anything.

They viewed homosexuality and gender nonconformity as biological corruption, threats to the traditional family structure

While GC people, on the contrary, view these things as perfectly natural and unproblematic.

So... What's your point, exactly????

Similarities:

"From the Nazis believing they were the victims of degeneracy and social contagion to their obsession with biological supremacy."

Ring any bells?

Wishesandhorses · Today 09:55

LGB person here. <raises hand>

Who needs the sex based protections in law because without those there is no legal protections for homosexuality. Or from those who call us 'sexual racists' and require that lesbian women 'learn to cope' with unwanted straight sex to validate a man's identity.

One of the biggest assaults to gay rights and being able to be proudly, openly gay in the last five years has been transactivism.

Shortshriftandlethal · Today 09:55

EmilyinEverton · Today 09:53

Similarities:

"From the Nazis believing they were the victims of degeneracy and social contagion to their obsession with biological supremacy."

Ring any bells?

Biological reality ( and an understanding there are two sexes) and a belief in biological 'supremacy' are not the same thing - evn if both phrases contain the word 'biological'.

NotBadConsidering · Today 09:55

What has any of this got to do with the Battle of Stalingrad?

I think Emily believes the best way to get out of the hole of stupidity Emily has dug for themselves is to keep digging and hope to come out of the other side 😂😂

Wishesandhorses · Today 09:57

EmilyinEverton · Today 09:53

Similarities:

"From the Nazis believing they were the victims of degeneracy and social contagion to their obsession with biological supremacy."

Ring any bells?

That this is bonkers, yes.

Biological 'supremacy'? Its not the women resisting their rights lost in law and medical experimentation on children who are into effectively damaging and sterilising kids who are troubled and confused and most likely gay with a high number also being autistic. Eugenics is a valid concern there!

ffs.

borntobequiet · Today 09:58

JadeLeader · Today 01:06

Ok, so I know the educated classes hate us and our Dear Leader, but she's really not doing herself any favours here...

Ha ha.
Not really up to speed on your WW2 history, are you?

Seethlaw · Today 09:58

EmilyinEverton · Today 09:53

Similarities:

"From the Nazis believing they were the victims of degeneracy and social contagion to their obsession with biological supremacy."

Ring any bells?

First, did you know that Hitler was a vegetarian? So obviously being a vegetarian is being a Nazi. In other words: degeneracy and social contagion are things that exist outside of the Nazi realm. For example, loads of pedophiles (degenerates) are not Nazis, and I imagine that most teenage victims of various social contagions are not Nazis either.

Second, GC people don't think they are biologically superior to anyone else.

Third, don't think I haven't noticed that you have provided exactly ZERO of the examples I asked for.

FKAT · Today 10:02

This is why I hate argument by analogy. The TRAs are the worst of it, ransacking every single civil rights movement to try and posit that AGP men are like black people under Jim Crow or gay men under section 28, or Jews under the Nazis or women pre-suffrage. Use the facts in hand to make your point otherwise you don't have one.

Even dumber is taking an analogy - and then treating it as literal. Here Stalingrad is clearly a metaphor but then TRAs with take it upons themselves to submit a 'compare and contrast' essay, like they are Year 10 GCSE students.

MrsOvertonsWindow · Today 10:02

teawamutu · Today 07:58

Jeez. You check in with MN after a lovely sleep, only to discover that someone <glares pointedly over spectacles> has been feeding 50ps into the dickhead machine.

😂😂
This is such a funny thread. Transactivists in a frantic froth of incoherent rage desperately trying to regain a smidgen of respectability and failing miserably all the time. 😄

EmilyinEverton · Today 10:05

Seethlaw · Today 09:58

First, did you know that Hitler was a vegetarian? So obviously being a vegetarian is being a Nazi. In other words: degeneracy and social contagion are things that exist outside of the Nazi realm. For example, loads of pedophiles (degenerates) are not Nazis, and I imagine that most teenage victims of various social contagions are not Nazis either.

Second, GC people don't think they are biologically superior to anyone else.

Third, don't think I haven't noticed that you have provided exactly ZERO of the examples I asked for.

Problem with this 'analysis' is the Nazis thought all queer people were degenerates. And just like Magadalen Berns & Helen Joyce they believed it was a Jewish conspiracy to 'poison' biological 'purity' with it.

Second, GC people don't think they are biologically superior to anyone else.

They don't believe trans people 'exist' 'cause biology' only proves they do.

Third, don't think I haven't noticed that you have provided exactly ZERO of the examples I asked for.

I never made the claims you asked for. Still misreading comments?

NotBadConsidering · Today 10:05

It’s brilliant isn’t it? 😂

It’s like when a kid wets their pants then starts ranting about how they don’t want peas for tea as a distraction from the stain.

SadTimesInFife · Today 10:05

...meanwhile....I will just say that JK is an absolute treasure! 🥰

HenriettaSwanLeavitt · Today 10:08

MyAmpleSheep · Today 02:21

I re-open my case, present this last lot of waffle as evidence, and rest my case again.

Fucking hell. Nazi waffle waffle Nazi waffle waffle transgender waffle Nazi.

Great post.
Though I really want a waffle now.

Seethlaw · Today 10:11

EmilyinEverton · Today 10:05

Problem with this 'analysis' is the Nazis thought all queer people were degenerates. And just like Magadalen Berns & Helen Joyce they believed it was a Jewish conspiracy to 'poison' biological 'purity' with it.

Second, GC people don't think they are biologically superior to anyone else.

They don't believe trans people 'exist' 'cause biology' only proves they do.

Third, don't think I haven't noticed that you have provided exactly ZERO of the examples I asked for.

I never made the claims you asked for. Still misreading comments?

Problem with this 'analysis' is the Nazis thought all queer people were degenerates.

And GC people do not think that all queer people are degenerates. So why are you comparing the two?

And just like Magadalen Berns & Helen Joyce they believed it was a Jewish conspiracy to 'poison' biological 'purity' with it.

Sources about MB and HJ believing that trans people existing is any kind of Jewish conspiracy? I'm not holding my breath, mind you.

They don't believe trans people 'exist' 'cause biology' only proves they do.

You're mistaken. GC people do believe trans people exist. Like, duh.

I never made the claims you asked for. Still misreading comments?

So who posted the 09:44 post in your name? You know, the post I literally quoted?

Theeyeballsinthesky · Today 10:14

So... What's your point, exactly????

miss! Miss! I know!! Is it that ppl who understand biology is real and popping on a dress doesn't make you a woman and also that it's WPATH who are the bad guys here are big smelly poo heads?

Theeyeballsinthesky · Today 10:16

I see @Seethlaw is failing to trans properly again - tut tut Seeth

Emily will decide you are literally Hitler you know

EmilyinEverton · Today 10:17

Seethlaw · Today 10:11

Problem with this 'analysis' is the Nazis thought all queer people were degenerates.

And GC people do not think that all queer people are degenerates. So why are you comparing the two?

And just like Magadalen Berns & Helen Joyce they believed it was a Jewish conspiracy to 'poison' biological 'purity' with it.

Sources about MB and HJ believing that trans people existing is any kind of Jewish conspiracy? I'm not holding my breath, mind you.

They don't believe trans people 'exist' 'cause biology' only proves they do.

You're mistaken. GC people do believe trans people exist. Like, duh.

I never made the claims you asked for. Still misreading comments?

So who posted the 09:44 post in your name? You know, the post I literally quoted?

And GC people do not think that all queer people are degenerates. So why are you comparing the two?

GC people aren't anti trans? This is news.

Sources about MB and HJ believing that trans people existing is any kind of Jewish conspiracy? I'm not holding my breath, mind you.

Already posted upthread. Still misreading?

You're mistaken. GC people do believe trans people exist. Like, duh.

Suuuure they do…..

So who posted the 09:44 post in your name? You know, the post I literally quoted?

Maybe read my comment about the link which quotes my points.

EdithStourton · Today 10:21

Shortshriftandlethal · Today 09:55

Biological reality ( and an understanding there are two sexes) and a belief in biological 'supremacy' are not the same thing - evn if both phrases contain the word 'biological'.

What I was going to say.
Rational thinking is in short supply in some quarters.

Seethlaw · Today 10:22

Theeyeballsinthesky · Today 10:14

So... What's your point, exactly????

miss! Miss! I know!! Is it that ppl who understand biology is real and popping on a dress doesn't make you a woman and also that it's WPATH who are the bad guys here are big smelly poo heads?

How dare you misgender me!? It's Sir on Mondays and Thursdays, Ms on Tuesdays and Fridays, and Mx on Wednesdays. Do better.

😉😂

Seethlaw · Today 10:23

Theeyeballsinthesky · Today 10:16

I see @Seethlaw is failing to trans properly again - tut tut Seeth

Emily will decide you are literally Hitler you know

Can't. I'm not a vegetarian!

tartyflette · Today 10:25

JadeLeader · Today 02:00

Is it though? Intellectually lazy? With the Overton Window currently sitting far to the right and the echoes of the exact same psycho-social patterns of the 1930s running strongly through many European countries; England especially?

What parallel would you suggest society reaches for the quantify and personify the current attitudes and trends?

Christ, enough with the word salad already.
(And the very dodgy grammar.)

Seethlaw · Today 10:26

EmilyinEverton · Today 10:17

And GC people do not think that all queer people are degenerates. So why are you comparing the two?

GC people aren't anti trans? This is news.

Sources about MB and HJ believing that trans people existing is any kind of Jewish conspiracy? I'm not holding my breath, mind you.

Already posted upthread. Still misreading?

You're mistaken. GC people do believe trans people exist. Like, duh.

Suuuure they do…..

So who posted the 09:44 post in your name? You know, the post I literally quoted?

Maybe read my comment about the link which quotes my points.

GC people aren't anti trans? This is news.

Since when are trans people "all queer people"?

Already posted upthread. Still misreading?

Well then you should not have any problem pointing me to the right post?

Maybe read my comment about the link which quotes my points.

What does that even mean? You posted links, and then quoted from them. So presumably, you can present evidence for the bits you quoted, either from those same links, or from other sources. So please present them.

EmilyinEverton · Today 10:37

Seethlaw · Today 10:26

GC people aren't anti trans? This is news.

Since when are trans people "all queer people"?

Already posted upthread. Still misreading?

Well then you should not have any problem pointing me to the right post?

Maybe read my comment about the link which quotes my points.

What does that even mean? You posted links, and then quoted from them. So presumably, you can present evidence for the bits you quoted, either from those same links, or from other sources. So please present them.

Knock yourself out with all the sea lioning derailment again.

Get back to me when you’ve got something substantive to say.

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