Rowling Makes a Stand

[JadeLeader]

Ok, so I know the educated classes hate us and our Dear Leader, but she's really not doing herself any favours here...

And she has not done that. Merely queried the trans agenda within it. I don't recall her saying anything about Jewish people re their Jewishness and denying the holocaust , and unless you can show it, it's libellous.

I think Jewish people, Jehovah's Witnesses, Communists, Socialists, gay men, Romany people and people with physical and mental disabilities would like a word.

Your last comment is just sublime. JKR has been very vocal about anti-Semitism.

Lol "query". "Any attempt to negate the established facts". Keep digging.

And let's not forget even when she was confronted with the facts she didn't renounce her earlier denial.

Oh dear….
https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/j-k-rowling-s-harry-potter-goblins-echo-jewish-caricatures-ncna1287043

Meanwhile JKR was labelled a Zionist for criticising Hamas after the 7th October attacks. So which is it?

If she quoted Waterloo, crossing the Rubicon, or even the charge of the Light brigade, I'd be able to understand her comment!
Not sure which side of this barricade we TERFs sit?!

"We terfs" try having your own opinion there isn't a sign up sheet!

And let's not forget JK Rowling's gushing admiration of Magdalen Berns & Helen Joyce who both have famously peddled anti Semitic jewish billionaire white replacement conspiracy theory targeting white women for sterilisation.

Company she keeps?

https://www.critfacts.com/transcripts/gender-critical-antisemitism

Oh darling, but I do!

😂

Yes, of course, except to the willfully obstinate.

I too, frequently jump onto threads talking about people I deem irrelevant.

JKR has already responded to the TRAs who are too stupid to understand the analogy 😂🤦🏻‍♀️

https://x.com/jk_rowling/status/2067315180841717867?s=46&t=kkknvxWsLwXg2yGlHokrrA

Another one of her cynical ploys this time to deflect anti semitic accusations?

To extend this beyond Emily’s Wikipedia history the Nazis had no objection to heterosexual cross dressing. This clinic was destroyed because it was run by a homosexual physician and the very few cross dressers sent to camps were sent because they were gay.

On the wider issue I think the forces of Gender Ideology are already in retreat, so the analogy isn’t perfect, but successfully suing WPATH (and both the massive leak of WPATH files and the recent court cases provide more than enough material) would be a decisive blow. I suspect the retreat of the insurance companies, which is already happening in the US, would strongly discourage doctors from practicing in this area.

But you haven't won yet but assume you will just like the Nazi aggressors assumed they would.

That’s just whataboutery. The post was asking what JKR meant and I’ve just explained it for you. Or rather JKR has. You’re welcome.

As an aside, given the outcome of multiple recent court cases, the odds look pretty good. Happy to return to this conversation once it’s been heard.

Oh for goodness sake. 🤦🏻‍♀️

Offensive nonsense. You are making yourself look ridiculous and demonstrating your ignorance.

Why are you taking it for granted that she was identifying with the Nazi side in the battle?

The whole reason the battle is famous is that it was a long hard battle but in the end the Nazis lost.

Here, I’ll try to help you educate yourself: "The Battle of Stalingrad (August 1942–February 1943) was a brutal World War II campaign where the Soviet Union successfully defended its city against invading Nazi forces. It is widely considered the pivotal turning point of the war in Europe, halting Germany's eastern advance and marking the beginning of the end for Hitler's regime."

To extend this beyond Emily’s Wikipedia history the Nazis had no objection to heterosexual cross dressing.

This is false.

"Queer Women, Gender-Nonconforming People, and Trans People
While the Nazis used Paragraph 175 to arrest and charge queer men, there was not a similar law that targeted other queer people. This does not mean that other queer people were not persecuted. The Nazis used several other laws and policies to target and punish people whose gender identity and sexuality did not conform with the party’s ideals. Paragraph 183, for example, was the German law against “causing a public disturbance with a lewd act.” The Nazis often arrested trans people under the law and argued that “cross dressing” caused a public disturbance. Fritz Kitzing was a gender nonconforming person who was arrested while in women’s clothing in 1933. The Nazis charged them under Paragraph Paragraph 361, the law against homelessness and begging. And as historian on trans woman Liddy Bacroff demonstrates, the Nazis did not recognize transgender identities as legitimate, and trans women were often arrested under Paragraph 175 as homosexual men."

"Some scholars have argued that because lesbians and transgender people were not targeted by specific laws and did not have their own separate prisoner category (and corresponding colored triangle), they were not really persecuted. This stance is dangerous because it relies on viewing this history through the Nazis’ own intentions and classification system to explain the experiences of the victims. The fact that lesbians and trans people were labeled as asocials rather than under their own separate category does not change that they were imprisoned and persecuted in concentration camps. The Nazi persecution of queer women and trans people was different from the Nazi persecution of queer men, but it was persecution nonetheless."

https://www.pinktrianglelegacies.org/learn/history

It's interesting that both the Nazis & GC feminists both considered trans people as gays.

On the wider issue I think the forces of Gender Ideology are already in retreat, so the analogy isn’t perfect, but successfully suing WPATH

Malpractice via breaching standards of care is a common problem throughout the medical profession so to assume this is some sort of 'take down' of WPATH is quite the leap.

(and both the massive leak of WPATH files and the recent court cases provide more than enough material) would be a decisive blow.

The WPATH Files have been thoroughly discredited.

https://www.erininthemorning.com/p/fact-check-216-instances-of-factual

"The Battle of Stalingrad (August 1942–February 1943) was a brutal World War II campaign where the Soviet Union successfully defended its city against invading Nazi forces. It is widely considered the pivotal turning point of the war in Europe, halting Germany's eastern advance and marking the beginning of the end for Hitler's regime."

The Nazis lost. In JKR's analogy the TERFs are the Soviet Union, resisting the attacks of the Nazis, and will eventually triumph just as the people of Stalingrad did in the battle.

You haven’t given us your opinion? What do you think of JK Rowlings “post” ?

The ludicrous part of this is the mentality that temporarily politically pressuring a government can just magically make trans people disappear. For JK to effectively 'win' she would need to kill an idea. You realise governments come & go? You realise the trans panic is a generationally divided issue that's astro turfed by the right? Oh wait…

And in any case malpractice is a broad encompassing issue.

"You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea."

Good Lord, TRAs are so boring aren't they. Just lots of little irritating posts with controversial statements designed to provoke argument and make themselves feel important. And the irony of any TRA criticising the company one keeps... Got any comments on Surrey Pride @EmilyinEverton ?

A few details about the Nazis and genderism.

It's worth talking about Erwin Gohrbandt, a surgeon who performed "gender reassignment surgeries" on Dora Richter and Toni Ebel, who worked at the Institute for Sexology under Magnus Hirschfeld, and the Danish artist Lili Elbe. (Lili Elbe, born male as Einar Wegener, died in 1931 as a result of a procedure to implant a uterus and construct a vaginal canal, performed by another surgeon.)

Gohrbandt was a research assistant for surgical questions in the Social Office of the Reich Youth Leader, held various medical posts under the Nazis and is strongly suspected of conducting experiments on prisoners at Dachau.

Fucking hell, I've just been to Warsaw and did a city tour and the scale of destruction of the city and its people and specifically of the Ghetto that the Nazis carried out is mind blowing and heartbreaking but no, the biggest victims of the Nazis are of course trans people. Get some perspective.