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Hamas sexual violence on 7th October attack. Content warning.

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ArabellaScott · 12/05/2026 20:02

A new investigation has shared more information on details of Hamas' atrocities.

I do urge caution when reading, and don't if you are feeling fragile.

'An independent, Israeli investigation has published harrowing details of "systematic, widespread" sexual violence by Hamas and other Palestinian armed groups during the attacks on 7 October 2023, and against hostages.
The 300-page report concludes that rapes, sexual assault and sexual torture were intended "to maximize pain and suffering".
While the UN and others have published reports on sexual violence during the attacks – in which about 1,200 people were killed and 251 taken hostage – this is the most comprehensive.
It draws on 430 filmed interviews with survivors and witnesses, more than 10,000 photographs and videos filmed by attackers, and official records and material from attack sites.'

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvgz9k7pzggo

Two women hug in grief at the site of the Nova festival attack, on 7 October 2025

Hamas 'weaponised' sexual violence in 7 October attacks, Israeli investigation says

The most comprehensive report of its kind details harrowing cases of sexual attacks which it says were systematic.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvgz9k7pzggo

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BeFluentTraybake · 14/05/2026 14:27

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BeFluentTraybake · 14/05/2026 14:33

DaisyDooley · 14/05/2026 07:16

You do realise that ‘Muslim’ is an idology not a race don’t you?
It’s a religion. We do not have blasphemy laws in the UK.
Jews are a race. It’s not just their religion, it’s their total identity and where they come from - since there’s only one Jewish homeland.
The Jews who were murdered on October 7th were murdered purely because they were Jewish - men broke into their country , raped murdered & kidnapped them.
These men defiled the women in ways I don’t even want to try & imagine.
And -If Mulims don’t worship their prophet I wonder why the Batley teacher is still in hiding & the murderers happened in the Charlie Hebdo offices.

Judaism is a religion, youre referring to Semetic - same as many muslims and Christians.

GreyskySexRealistsky · 14/05/2026 14:35

@BeFluentTraybake "this is virtue signalling at its best" - what are you referring to that is virtue signalling?

BeFluentTraybake · 14/05/2026 14:37

DaisyDooley · 13/05/2026 22:36

You might not think it’s a fair summation.
But I do.
Your reply reeks of ‘whataboutery’.

And it takes a lot more than a ‘small number’ to rape an estimated 250,000 women &girls.

The "small number" is in reference to proportionality - whereby white men are disproportionately over represented for sex crimes in the UK, with the only type of sex crime with a similar type of disproportionate representation being grooming gangs - yes this belongs to Asian males HOWEVER overall grooming networks account for an incredibly small number of sex crimes overall.

Again, virtue signalling.

BeFluentTraybake · 14/05/2026 14:39

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GreyskySexRealistsky · 14/05/2026 14:42

It's ISRAEL.

And yes, it matters.

inamarina · 14/05/2026 14:45

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Why do you spell Israel like that?

BeFluentTraybake · 14/05/2026 14:48

Isreal

GreyskySexRealistsky · 14/05/2026 14:50

BeFluentTraybake · 14/05/2026 14:48

Isreal

What point are you making?
Or can you not spell?

BeFluentTraybake · 14/05/2026 14:52

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inamarina · 14/05/2026 14:54

BeFluentTraybake · 14/05/2026 14:48

Isreal

Not sure a lecture on the descent of Ashkenazi Jews by someone who insists on spelling Israel wrong is of much value tbh.

GreyskySexRealistsky · 14/05/2026 14:55

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No it's not the part that bothers me the most. The content of the report is what bothers me most.

Just spell it correctly. Israel.

BeFluentTraybake · 14/05/2026 14:56

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Shortshriftandlethal · 14/05/2026 14:57

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There are very distinctive DNA markers for Ashkenazi jews......which are different to other European gene pools.

Palestine is a relatively recent creation in the long history of this land beside the Mediterranean. But one thing is for certain it is the Jewish peoples that have inahabited that area for the longest amount of time. Arabs came from Arabia originally.

GreyskySexRealistsky · 14/05/2026 15:01

inamarina · 14/05/2026 14:54

Not sure a lecture on the descent of Ashkenazi Jews by someone who insists on spelling Israel wrong is of much value tbh.

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It's clear what's going on here.
No point trying to engage further!

BeFluentTraybake · 14/05/2026 15:04

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BeFluentTraybake · 14/05/2026 15:06

inamarina · 14/05/2026 14:54

Not sure a lecture on the descent of Ashkenazi Jews by someone who insists on spelling Israel wrong is of much value tbh.

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Israel and Ashkenazi Jews are not one and the same. My family are German ashkenazi. We are smart enough to realise that we are not indigenous to a effing desert based on the fact we're all blonde and ginger!

GreyskySexRealistsky · 14/05/2026 15:07

This poster appears to be picking a fight with themself.

Shortshriftandlethal · 14/05/2026 15:14

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And neither are Turks, Kurds or Egyptians, Greeks, Persians etc all of whom have lived in this land during its various epochs and ages, and all of whom contribute to the gene poll of what is now referred to ( since the 1960s) as the Palestinians. Before that period the Arabs tended to refer to the region as Southern Syria,

None of this is relevent, anyway. Israel now exists as a sovereign state not only due to the long history of jewish peoples in this area, but due to continued anti-semitic prejudice and banishments elsewhere.

quantumbutterfly · 14/05/2026 15:16

GreyskySexRealistsky · 14/05/2026 15:07

This poster appears to be picking a fight with themself.

Self flagellation is not uncommon these days. It appears to be a team sport in some circles.

Shortshriftandlethal · 14/05/2026 15:17

BeFluentTraybake · 14/05/2026 15:06

Israel and Ashkenazi Jews are not one and the same. My family are German ashkenazi. We are smart enough to realise that we are not indigenous to a effing desert based on the fact we're all blonde and ginger!

Theer are many blonde people living in Muslim Palestine too......because much of that population has roots elsewhere. Being on the edge of the Mediterranean the land has been inhabited by various empires and rulers...going back all the way to the original Jewish peoples.

Imnobody4 · 14/05/2026 15:17

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50% of the population of Israel are Mizrahi Jews.
The expulsion of 850,000 mostly Mizrahi (Middle Eastern) and Sephardic Jews from Arab and Muslim countries took place before, during, and after the Holocaust. As nationalist Arab leaders aligned with Nazi Germany in the name of oil and expelling the British, Jewish communities were targeted for pauperization, expulsion, and murder.

inamarina · 14/05/2026 15:20

Shortshriftandlethal · 14/05/2026 15:17

Theer are many blonde people living in Muslim Palestine too......because much of that population has roots elsewhere. Being on the edge of the Mediterranean the land has been inhabited by various empires and rulers...going back all the way to the original Jewish peoples.

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I actually happen to know a woman from Gaza who has light brown hair, blue eyes and fair skin.

Shortshriftandlethal · 14/05/2026 15:23

BeFluentTraybake · 14/05/2026 15:06

Israel and Ashkenazi Jews are not one and the same. My family are German ashkenazi. We are smart enough to realise that we are not indigenous to a effing desert based on the fact we're all blonde and ginger!

The blood group and haplogroup studies reveal that in fact the founding group of what came to be bown as Askenazis has more in common with southern mediterranean and Turkic bloood lines that with other european bloodlines.

And of course, after the expulsion from Spain and Portugal in 1492 some Sephardic populations migrated into mainland Europe, including Belgium and then beyond. At the same time Jewish populations from southern Italy and the Ottoman empire were migrating into the main body of Europe

Grammarnut · 14/05/2026 15:23

Why do I get the feeling that the reason we are now allowed to know that the sexual abuse on 7th October was real is because men are saying they were raped as well - which, of course, is much worse than women being raped as that is par for the course in war?
Sorry, in retrospect, if this seems unsympathetic, but it was obvious from the first pictures of victims on Oct 7th than women had been ganged raped and it was denied all over the place.
The report is horrific in its detail btw, not to be read if you feel at all fragile. I hope Reem Alsalem now recants her disbelief in the rapes of Jewish women (and men) on Oct 7th.

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