'Trans people are just trying to exist'

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Anyone seen this? Billboard in central Edinburgh. Wondering whether there are more across the country?

Image is under review. It's not a sensitive image, promise! Just a poster saying 'We are not your enemy. Trans people are just trying to exist. We are not the problem ' and photos of 2 people

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I don't have the patience for this today

Are the post-it notes part of the poster? What do they say.
It seems very anonymous, who paid for it?

Deleted what?

The notes pasted on are for LGBT+ events, maybe University-linked. I will see if I can have a closer look, didn't want to draw too much attention to myself when I took the photo

Couldn't see anything to identify who was responsible

The issue is that they don't want to exist as 'trans people'. They want to exist as the sex they claim to be and use being trans when it benefits them.

If trans was understood by everyone as an individual, for whatever reason, identifying as the opposite sex, things would be a hell of a lot more straightforward.

Sex and gender would be acknowledged as separate things and we could ensure everyone's different needs were fairly met.

It's always the hyperbole isn't it. How can you claim to not exist when you're right there telling people that you exist. How can you claim you have no rights when your rights are enshrined in law. How can you claim to be the sex opposite to the sex you are?

They need a new angle. They need a proper plan on how to ensure they can access public spaces, just like women did originally by campaigning for female only single sex spaces and just like people with disabilities did more recently by campaigning for accessible spaces and suitable parking facilities, etc.

They need to stop whining about what they can't have and work together to achieve something that they can have. Progress does happen but it can't happen by regressing the rights of others.

Think again. Look at what you want -v- what you need. Be sensible. Get organised. Earn some respect.

The gaslighting is unbearable.

They’re not just trying to exist, they’re trying to ride roughshod over everyone to get what they want at the expense of women.

You are not THE problem but you are A problem. One of the many that us women face in a misogynistic society, and one we could very much do without, so don't bother spending money on attention-seeking billboards, just stop appropriating our identity and our spaces and you'll be less of a problem.

A bit long for a post-it, but that's what I'd like to attach to this billboard!

Sticker woman needs to come out and put a few factual comments on that poster. I saw it too just eye rolled inwardly and walked on. It's obviously to capture sympathy prior to the election. They've nothing to worry about as sadly SNP will get in again, everyone just keeps voting for them anyway.

Nobody is denying anyone's existence. Demanding access to women's single sex spaces is impacting women's human rights for various reasons. The campaign should be for third spaces if they feel scared in the men's. That's not up to women to solve.

They are not 'just trying to exist' of course. They are demanding that their subjective reality that is not based on material reality is treated as if it is material reality in language and policy.

It is a falsehood that they are 'just trying to exist'.

Spot on!!

'Trying' is the right word. Very

Ive noted quite a lot of graffiti in Edinburgh for Bash Back the TRA group who picket events and attacked a MPs office etc

Of course, if a women's group put up a billboard in Edinburgh talking about our human rights and wanting to exist there would likely be hissy fits thrown and probably protests beside it, likely vandalism too. Hopefully people just do what I did, have a quick glance, shrug and walk on to get on with their lives.

Nobody is denying anyone's existence.

Tbf, by their assertion that ‘transwomen’ are women, thus subjugating us to new category called ‘cis women’, our existence in their minds as ‘women’ has actually been denied and erased by these men (helped by some women).

Fortunately, our existence is not dependent on anyone else’s perception so we remain women ™️

It's all very tedious, isn't it. Like navel gaving teenagers who 'just want to be my own person and live my own life' which is, of course, a euphemism for 'I want to do FA round the house and so just get off my back, OK'.

There is a bit of an own-goal if you read it correctly... 😉

It says: Trans people are just trying to exist

trying to exist means they haven't succeeded yet - which is not surprising seeing as biologically it is impossible to be a trans woman or trans man - you remain a man or woman as you were born!

But good of them to admit it 😁

"Of course, if a women's group put up a billboard in Edinburgh talking about our human rights and wanting to exist there would likely be hissy fits thrown and probably protests beside it, likely vandalism too. Hopefully people just do what I did, have a quick glance, shrug and walk on to get on with their lives."

Actually, no one would be likely to mind, as long as you kept to expressing what your rights were, what rights are lacking, and what you'd like to change (and there were actually lots of posters in cities for International Women’s Day (March 8), can't see any sign of anyone being annoyed about that or complaining...).
The problem would be if you wished to denigrate the rights of another group to exist, or to express themselves calmly, peacefully, and without harming anybody..and that is the line that many anti-trans statements cross.

Are we allowed to say trans identifying men are not women? Or is that crossing your line?

Trans activists have literally shouted and screamed and disrupted women talking about miscarriages, sexual assaults, and maternity rights, amongst other things, so I'm really not sure that's the case.

That’s a very good point. How transphobic to try and erase themselves.