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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

'Trans people are just trying to exist'

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GCScot · Yesterday 12:38

Anyone seen this? Billboard in central Edinburgh. Wondering whether there are more across the country?

'Trans people are just trying to exist'
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Waitwhat23 · Yesterday 21:25

lifeinthelastlane · Yesterday 16:10

No. Lothian Buses (based in Edinburgh) refused to carry a bus ad that said woman: adult human female on it.
2018 I think.

I had completely missed this at the time (and I'm from Edinburgh!). Wow.

https://forwomen.scot/11/10/2018/woman-banned-from-lothian-buses/

So much for the claim by a pp that 'of course a fuss wouldn't be made!'

"Woman" banned from Lothian buses - For Women Scotland

Exterion Media, the company that controls advertising space for Lothian Buses, refused to display the dictionary definition of the word “woman” on the grounds that the message was “likely to offend” the general public. This was reported in The Times he...

https://forwomen.scot/11/10/2018/woman-banned-from-lothian-buses/

Catiette · Yesterday 21:40

I was just thinking, a counter-argument to drawing a parallel between the two posters could be, "Yes, but the Woman = AHF poster 'targets' transwomen by 'denying their reality'" or some such.

So I thought, what would be a closer equivalent, then?

Maybe, "Women are just trying to exist"? Hm. Not possible, because the whole issue is that that word now includes transwomen.

Or perhaps, "Cis women are just trying to exist"? Nope, cos that excludes those of us who don't identify as "cis".

In which case, "Adult human females are just trying to exist"? Well, obviously not, because we then hit the exact same issue that got the poster above taken down.

There's nothing left.

NO way left to say this AT ALL.

So, tell me again: which group is being erased "from existence"?

IAmAHomewardBounder · Yesterday 21:44

heathspeedwell · Yesterday 18:04

I think this would be a wonderful place to share this quick clip about what happens when women attempt to 'just exist'.

Thanks for posting this, it's really highlights the craziness of what is being censored under the radar.

@Jo7890123
The problem would be if you wished to denigrate the rights of another group to exist, or to express themselves calmly, peacefully, and without harming anybody.
https://terfisaslur.com/

What were you saying about a line?

Does anyone know if there's a site documenting all the video footage of people being disciplined for not saying there are five lights? I know I saw one of a boy in Scotland getting suspended for saying there were two genders, I wouldn't mind rewatching it now to see how it stands up through the haze of COVID and all the news articles showing how there is in fact a very real clash of rights going on where we've all been told there isn't one.

At least the guidance will be out soon, there aren't really any more delays for Phillipson to try without reeeeaaaaallllllly showing the spotlight on it all!

tiredmummasita · Yesterday 21:46

Is trans short for transvestite?

Rhaidimiddim · Yesterday 21:54

TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · Yesterday 20:33

I notice that both the transpeople on the poster are men.

No transmen on display, even though presumably they're just "trying to exist" as well. They're an irrelevance to TiMs, just as all women seem to be.

It is quite the thing how women who claim a trans ID are becoming completely sidelined with time.

Almost like the whole trans thing is about the menz. Which was he vibe I got whe I first clocked the trans thing (and I don't claim any brilliant insight here, I was actuslly late to.the party) that it is a MRA thing.

A little bit lately the bearded ladies have been given a nod cos they've become useful for pushing men's requirements. As in, women can look like men now, so you gonna exclude the masculine women?

MNLurker1345 · Yesterday 22:00

Do we need to stop engaging in this? And here I am engaging!

Part of the warfare is to engage us.

OpheliaWitchoftheWoods · Yesterday 22:01

Unfortunately TiF have never been more than a side note that appears, as any interests of anyone female only ever does, when immediately useful to the cause of the men. I remember the instructions given about how much more oppressed the TiMs were and that good TiFs would give ground to them and see the men centred.

PolkaDotPorridge · Today 06:43

tiredmummasita · Yesterday 21:46

Is trans short for transvestite?

Yes. To me. They’ve ditched the word but it still applies. Men dressing up as women and less often vice versa.

EamonnFyre · Today 06:49

Honestly half the problem is them going on and on about it. If they just got on with things and said they’re trans. Like a third category nobody would care. It’s the insistence of the pretence that’s the problem. Men? No. Women? No. Trans? Yes. Third category. All good.

thirdfiddle · Today 08:42

ChaToilLeam · Yesterday 19:18

Do they think they're Tinkerbell, and will die if people don't believe?

Perhaps that's the problem. Maybe being trans is not something that really exists in the person themselves but a kind of cooperative roleplay between them and everyone else. Maybe they stop being trans if we don't all clap our hands.

Bertiebiscuit · Today 09:01

"trans people exist" is like "there are fairies at the bottom of my garden", "the world is flat" and "i am the Queen of Sheba". Nah. All 🐂💩

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