Men dressing as women; what really motivates them.

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Malcolm Clark does not hold back on what really motivates men dressing as women.
https://www.spiked-online.com/2026/04/02/kristi-noems-husband-and-the-dark-secret-of-trans/

Quite. That’s also when they demand that society bend over backwards and remodel itself around their wants.

BTW IIRC most of those I’m A Laydeee sketches showed quite clearly that the Laydeees knew that they were men and they were uncomfortable when acceptance went too far.

Edited as double post - no idea why!

There was an interview with a man parodying as a woman a couple of years ago which ended with him rollerblading away with the children merrily, showing off his 'stunning and brave' credentials, while his poor wife scurried after them carrying various coats, water bottles etc. He wasn't doing any of the boring, necessary stuff.

The best one IMO was the swimming pool changing room one.

Exactly the one I was thinking of!
https://www.tiktok.com/@slightlyconstipated/video/7239270572281187610

I hadn't seen that before. Nails it to an uncomfortable degree.

It really does.

Jeez where do you live, sounds like you are living in Trans Mad Land, Bristol?

“BTW IIRC most of those I’m A Laydeee sketches showed quite clearly that the Laydeees knew that they were men and they were uncomfortable when acceptance went too far.”

yes, because for the hyper-fem flouncy TiMs is actually about attention and making people treat them as ‘special’

there are TiMs who dress in jeans & jumpers and don’t present like drag queens, they still don’t ‘pass’ but, they also don’t make everything about how stunning and brave they are.

Az Hakeem should be understood within the frame of what he's trying to accomplish. Blanchard's approach was essentially observational with an attempt to reduce suffering of trans identified individuals. He felt AGP should be a neutral word (he created it to be neutral) and shouldn't imply a value judgement or condition the rights of trans people.

At the time Blanchard was most active, a large number a TIMs lied about sexual orientation and the sexual aspect of their identification in order to get treatment. (Gender clinics were heavily biased toward treating very effeminate homosexual men) Blanchard tried to destigmatise that and noted that, in fact, heterosexual AGP was the more stable form of transgender identification rather than a contraindication.

Hakeem's frame is one of treatment with an emphasis of desistance where possible. For him it's important to recontextualise and refine the sexual aspect of trans identification in males in order to tailor treatments that might be successful in helping them desist. Hakeem doesn't deny the sexual aspects of a large majority of heterosexual identification but he feels that it's secondary or misdirected in a large number of cases, rather than primary. He's not disputing Blarchard's finding of 80% AGP among adult heterosexual men seeking to transition, instead he's disputing Blanchard's diagnostic criteria for AGP as being overly blunt, and refining the meaning of AGP.

I'm sympathetic with Hakeem's approach - obviously the term 'AGP' is capable of eliciting a huge negative presumption when talking about trans identification. But I think it's a mistake to redefine what is a highly robust clinical typology (AGP) just because of its present-day connotation of political incorrectness.

Bloody hell. Those comments could only come from men.

Whilst I am sure there are many women with fantasies about being overpowered and submitting in sex or even being humiliated. I dont believe any of them would confuse these fantasies with their everyday life and say things like these men do about that.

Sexual fantasies are just that 'fantasies' and if they are played out, they should be done in private with trusted partners only

Trust some men to believe that their private sexual fantasies are soooo important that they belong in the open, in public , impinging on other people's normal lives. That every inner desire they have has to be shown and 'validated' Talk about narcissistic.

Whilst all trans women dont fall in the AGP category, a lot of them do and these men absolutely do not belong in female only spaces

Kristi Noem doesn't just want to 'preserve biological women's spaces'. If you don't accept that trans people are who they say they are then the only alternative is that they are mentally ill or perverts.

Lots of people on Mumsnet would agree with that, but I'm guessing that they're not going to believe that homosexuals are mentally ill or perverts. That's what people used to say about them, that's what the traditional view is, and that's what people like Kristi Noem believes.

Do you think that Kristi Noem would accept someone like Kathleen Stock wearing men's clothes, having short hair and no makeup? She wouldn't accept it any more than she would accept men wearing women's clothing, no matter how much Kathleen Stock might insist there's nothing sexual about it or that she's not trying to be like a man.

Do you think that Kristi Noem would accept Kathleen Stock's marriage to another woman? She is against gay marriage. She isn't going to believe that Stock's lesbianism isn't a paraphilia.

I think most women ( conservative or liberal or whatever) understand that paraphilias and sexual fetishes are far more prevalent in males than in females, and that the male sexual drive -whether in a homosexual or in a heterosexual man - is different to the female sex drive. Sexual offfending, fetish, paeodophilia and other transgressive behaviours are far more associated with males - regardless of their sexual orientation or 'identity'.

I 100%. Believe that trans people are who they say they are.

the clue is in the trans.

I 100% believe that hot dogs are dogs. The clue is in the dogs.

If someone said “I 100% believe that people are who they say they are” I would 100% believe that this individual was too naive and innocent to even have a front door key. And I doubt I would be alone in this. What is it about the “trans” prefix that causes people to suspend all rational thinking?

I believe that they want to change gender. I don’t believe they can change sex.

I 100% believe trans people are who they say they are. I just think they are saying it using the wrong words.

(And that doesn't mean I think they are using the word "woman" when it shoukd be man or vice versa, it means I think they are incorrectly labelling some feeling, emotion or desire as "being a man/woman" when it's nothing to do with ones sex, then insisting those words now have to mean their feelings instead of their sex.)

All of them? Are you implying that trans-identifying people are all one amorphous group, all with the same wish and the same motivation? Again, a very naive thing to believe.

Trans-identifying people certainly want something, but what they want varies enormously. Some are afraid, traumatised or confused and are trying to figure out what will make them feel safe and happy. Some want to make society relate to them differently because they believe that this will make them happier, some want to make their bodies look different for the same reason. Some are struggling to come to terms with their sexuality, and need to ‘be’ the opposite sex in order to accept that they are attracted to the same sex. Some are looking for sexual thrills, whether via the way they want to look or to think about themselves, or by the way they can force others to interact with them. Some are outright liars who are trying to get away with criminal behaviour or to serve their sentence in a cushy prison.

This.

It's a catch all phrase for numerous different motivations.

And all feel entitled to use women's bodies, consenting or not doesn't matter, as a resource to meet their own needs - emotional, spiritual, sexual, what difference does it make to the woman being used?

Are women just walking aids for men?

Isn't a man who would do this to women an abuser?

Transphobe.

Good question!

I think some build up a fantasy around the surgery, and are probably rather disappointed in the actual results.

There are really people with abusive mothers.

Two I know had or have daughters that had a trans identification, pretty clearly related to the abuse imo.

One was not directly abusive but draggged the kids around from one abusive man to another, before finally taking them to live with one of them in a two room shack with no indoor plumbing. The other was a narcissist in a codependent violent marriage who told the kids she wished she had aborted them and consistently sabotaged their efforts to do things like get an education or leave home.

I don't think it's crazy to think men might also have effects from an abusive mother.