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Datun · 11/04/2026 13:48

Cailleach1 · 10/04/2026 16:51

Ditto. It was quite odd as they said it was ‘unkind’ to call something a cult. Imagine that! It is unkind to call something what it is. I’m sure many victims of cults, and their loved ones, will think that ‘kindness’ is grossly misplaced.

For fuck's sake, the double standards are appalling. It's 'unkind' to call something a cult, it's not even personal, it's an ideology.

But it's absolutely fine to allow a man who threatens to rape women with a rolling pin to post on here??

OpheliaWitchoftheWoods · 11/04/2026 14:37

Datun · 10/04/2026 14:10

Exactly. Everyone knows that Eddie Izzard was completely upfront about being a transvestite, albeit a fairly low-key one in public.

And now he is still a transvestite in public. And more than happy to wear men's clothes and switch on boy mode when it affords him an advantage, of course.

Everyone can see it for what it is. There's no fucking way Eddie Izzard thinks he's a woman.

So what the bloody hell is this very well-known, completely straight man doing in a women's toilet?

I mean what the hell is any man doing in a woman's toilet. But most of them come up with some bullshit excuse, this is just taking the piss - whilst telling everyone you're taking the piss.

It often occurs that the kick is less in the enacting than the control over others and watching them all obediently perform 'believing you', when you know they really don't at all. It's always the game of how far can you push the socially required 'belief' and enablement. With lots of hurt looks and social button pushing (kindness, tolerance) and innocent wide eyed bullshit when anyone questions it, and all of that lets you push a little more, get a little more, and laugh a little more at the gullibility of these twits without boundaries.

And that's how you convince nice, well intentioned people to let you abuse them. Someone playing this game is not appreciating what a lovely, socially developed and evolved person you are; they're thinking how you're a weak idiot. We're seeing this on an international scale at present, it's specific to people with major issues and almost all of those people are men.

OpheliaWitchoftheWoods · 11/04/2026 14:43

And of course there is always a group of men who are not just enjoying the control of performed obedient belief, but are most excited by reluctant, distressed, angry women who are forced to perform, in women's rights terms most often by removing clothing or submitting to intimate touch if you go into the narrative of those men desperate to strip search, and do post rape exams. If the woman is scared, angry, distressed and having to hide it through fear of consequences and forced submission to the man concerned?

Oh the lovely power to wallow around in there.

Two minutes on the relationship board finds plenty of male abusers for whom this is utter catnip. This is a particular bucket of catnip to splash in, but it's not really different to the kind of man who loves messing with contact and causing all the distress possible knowing the court order means she can't do anything but submit.

CassOle · 11/04/2026 14:55

I have had a few deletions also, The one that stands out was when one of our visiting men (who identify as the opposite sex) posted a load of demonstrably untrue, utter stupid claims regarding medicine and medical care not being different in any way for males and females.

Now I know to not reply directly to the poster in that situation. I actually had an email from MN about it.

Carla786 · 11/04/2026 15:57

TinselAngel · 10/04/2026 12:07

Yes it was a strange day.

I bet! Kudos, can't have been a pleasant experience but thank goodness you documented it.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 11/04/2026 16:21

OpheliaWitchoftheWoods · 11/04/2026 14:43

And of course there is always a group of men who are not just enjoying the control of performed obedient belief, but are most excited by reluctant, distressed, angry women who are forced to perform, in women's rights terms most often by removing clothing or submitting to intimate touch if you go into the narrative of those men desperate to strip search, and do post rape exams. If the woman is scared, angry, distressed and having to hide it through fear of consequences and forced submission to the man concerned?

Oh the lovely power to wallow around in there.

Two minutes on the relationship board finds plenty of male abusers for whom this is utter catnip. This is a particular bucket of catnip to splash in, but it's not really different to the kind of man who loves messing with contact and causing all the distress possible knowing the court order means she can't do anything but submit.

Spot on.

DramaAndBullshit · 11/04/2026 16:57

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GreyskySexRealistsky · 11/04/2026 17:58

Such timing, MN! 😂

DramaAndBullshit · 11/04/2026 19:31

Oh look. Deleted again.

2021x · 12/04/2026 06:22

I have listened to Dr. Az Hakeem on this as it would be impossible for me to actually know why this is the case. It is noted that he has only spoken about cross dressers than those how appear to have gender dysphoria.

I beleive that he reports that most of them are cross-dressers and only a small subset are AGP. It mainly describes Fetishistic and non-fetishisitc cross dressers. He says that it is a nevous system reaction to having a trauma- in this case an overbearing mother/female caregiver-, and points out that a fetish (any fetish) is a sexualisation of a trauma.

PrettyDamnCosmic · 12/04/2026 08:22

2021x · 12/04/2026 06:22

I have listened to Dr. Az Hakeem on this as it would be impossible for me to actually know why this is the case. It is noted that he has only spoken about cross dressers than those how appear to have gender dysphoria.

I beleive that he reports that most of them are cross-dressers and only a small subset are AGP. It mainly describes Fetishistic and non-fetishisitc cross dressers. He says that it is a nevous system reaction to having a trauma- in this case an overbearing mother/female caregiver-, and points out that a fetish (any fetish) is a sexualisation of a trauma.

Dr. Az Hakeem reckons that the proportion of fetishistic cross-dressers to AGPs is about 4:1 but that it's a sexual motivation for all of them. How could it not be?

DramaAndBullshit · 12/04/2026 11:30

2021x · 12/04/2026 06:22

I have listened to Dr. Az Hakeem on this as it would be impossible for me to actually know why this is the case. It is noted that he has only spoken about cross dressers than those how appear to have gender dysphoria.

I beleive that he reports that most of them are cross-dressers and only a small subset are AGP. It mainly describes Fetishistic and non-fetishisitc cross dressers. He says that it is a nevous system reaction to having a trauma- in this case an overbearing mother/female caregiver-, and points out that a fetish (any fetish) is a sexualisation of a trauma.

Shhhhhh don’t use the F word!! You’ll get deleted….

JellySaurus · 12/04/2026 13:23

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PrettyDamnCosmic · 12/04/2026 13:30

DramaAndBullshit · 12/04/2026 11:30

Shhhhhh don’t use the F word!! You’ll get deleted….

I think fetish is OK now. It's describing them as perverts &/or members of a cult that gets you deleted now.

Pingponghavoc · 12/04/2026 13:37

Dr. Az Hakeem reckons that the proportion of fetishistic cross-dressers to AGPs is about 4:1 but that it's a sexual motivation for all of them. How could it not be?

I wonder how its decided who is a cross dresser and who is AGP? One is wanting to dress as, but not be a woman, the other does?

So if your lovely trans friend knows he's not a woman, he's likely to be a fetishistic cross-dressers, otherwise he's AGP?

PrettyDamnCosmic · 12/04/2026 13:58

Pingponghavoc · 12/04/2026 13:37

Dr. Az Hakeem reckons that the proportion of fetishistic cross-dressers to AGPs is about 4:1 but that it's a sexual motivation for all of them. How could it not be?

I wonder how its decided who is a cross dresser and who is AGP? One is wanting to dress as, but not be a woman, the other does?

So if your lovely trans friend knows he's not a woman, he's likely to be a fetishistic cross-dressers, otherwise he's AGP?

I wonder how its decided who is a cross dresser and who is AGP? One is wanting to dress as, but not be a woman, the other does?

It is subtle but the fetishistic cross dresser is an old school tranny who gets off on wearing female clothing. The AGP gets off on the idea of becoming a woman. I do wonder if with AGP there is some internalised homophobia as they want to be rogered by a big strong man but cannot admit to being homosexual.

JellySaurus · 12/04/2026 13:58

No idea why I was deleted. I didn’t say anything about perversion or cults. I’ll break up what I said into several sections. Maybe that way it will be clearer what exactly it is that we are banned from saying.

JellySaurus · 12/04/2026 14:00

2021x · 12/04/2026 06:22

I have listened to Dr. Az Hakeem on this as it would be impossible for me to actually know why this is the case. It is noted that he has only spoken about cross dressers than those how appear to have gender dysphoria.

I beleive that he reports that most of them are cross-dressers and only a small subset are AGP. It mainly describes Fetishistic and non-fetishisitc cross dressers. He says that it is a nevous system reaction to having a trauma- in this case an overbearing mother/female caregiver-, and points out that a fetish (any fetish) is a sexualisation of a trauma.

What, so it’s women’s fault, hmm?

JellySaurus · 12/04/2026 14:03

Nothing wrong with fetish or kink, or any other kind of sexual fun, as long as it is between consenting adults in private. The problem is when men bring it into the open and society is required to bend over backwards to enable them.

JellySaurus · 12/04/2026 14:04

What does it matter whether AGP or fetish? Both are sexual arousal due to transgressing societal boundaries.

JellySaurus · 12/04/2026 14:07

PrettyDamnCosmic · 12/04/2026 13:58

I wonder how its decided who is a cross dresser and who is AGP? One is wanting to dress as, but not be a woman, the other does?

It is subtle but the fetishistic cross dresser is an old school tranny who gets off on wearing female clothing. The AGP gets off on the idea of becoming a woman. I do wonder if with AGP there is some internalised homophobia as they want to be rogered by a big strong man but cannot admit to being homosexual.

Then why would AGP remain married to women? Especially after they have had penectomy and orchiectomy.

DramaAndBullshit · 12/04/2026 14:45

PrettyDamnCosmic · 12/04/2026 13:30

I think fetish is OK now. It's describing them as perverts &/or members of a cult that gets you deleted now.

I said it was a fetish and a kink, didn’t say pervert or cult. Both times my comment has been deleted.

DramaAndBullshit · 12/04/2026 14:49

JellySaurus · 12/04/2026 14:03

Nothing wrong with fetish or kink, or any other kind of sexual fun, as long as it is between consenting adults in private. The problem is when men bring it into the open and society is required to bend over backwards to enable them.

It’s when they deny it’s a fetish/kink and insist they are real women, that’s when it’s a problem.

Men dressing as women; what really motivates them.
TinselAngel · 12/04/2026 14:54

JellySaurus · 12/04/2026 14:07

Then why would AGP remain married to women? Especially after they have had penectomy and orchiectomy.

It doesn’t stop them wanting a support human.

PrettyDamnCosmic · 12/04/2026 14:56

JellySaurus · 12/04/2026 14:07

Then why would AGP remain married to women? Especially after they have had penectomy and orchiectomy.

Then why would AGP remain married to women? Especially after they have had penectomy and orchiectomy.

Their AGP is so all consuming that they are prepared to overlook the disadvantages of no longer having a cock & balls. They also quite like having a wife to look after them while they carry on being male albeit with a parody of female secondary sexual characteristics. Jan Morris is the obvious example.

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