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The Bluestocking: To the moon and back gerbil style.

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Boiledbeetle · 02/04/2026 17:29

Previous thread of chat and general madness below

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5506124-the-bluestocking-womens-pub-spring-is-sprunging-and-mns-name-generator-can-do-one

Women: from an orderly queue at the bar or take a seat and grab a passing gerbil.

Men: turn left at the end of the road, keep walking until you find the Staunch Ally.

Bar gerbil a full fat coke please and a packet of Scampi Fries please.

The Bluestocking women's Pub- spring is sprunging and MN's name generator can do one! | Mumsnet

Welcome to the Bluestocking women's pub. Men are directed to the Staunch Ally just down the road. Otherwise all are welcome. Pull up a chair, give you...

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5506124-the-bluestocking-womens-pub-spring-is-sprunging-and-mns-name-generator-can-do-one

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MarieDeGournay · 06/04/2026 21:24

Oh dear, it's just worked out why so many of you are talking about rabbits😬

The Bluestocking: To the moon and back gerbil style.
Igneococcus · 06/04/2026 21:31

PastaAllaNorma · 06/04/2026 18:22

The condensed milk and citrus one?| I'll be interested to see how it goes.

It's really nice, the orange and coriander works well together and the black pepper adds a bit of subtle heat. Next time I make it I might put some pecans or other nuts in as well. It would make a good cake to take along to a cake sale.

EmpressaurusKitty · 06/04/2026 21:34

Hedgehogforshort · 06/04/2026 21:10

3 varieties of lettuce, beetroot, carrots, onions, garlic, Chard, radishes, peas, all in now.

Runner and french beans courgettes in later.

I also have a perennial fruit bed, raspberries, strawberries, rhubarb, and fennel oh and a welsh onion.

potatoes and herbs to go in tubs tomorrow.

Tomatoes and cucumbers for the greenhouse tomorrow, after tender pots go back out.

some cosmos and zinnia to plant out in gaps in beds later on.

Got some new plate sized dahlias for some pots as i just love them.

Thats my plan this year.

gave up on leeks and corn as no success there. Cannot be doing with brassicas as to much like hard work and don't like netting stuff as we have lots of birds.

might bung in some shallots but birds nick them.

That’s fantastic.

Igneococcus · 06/04/2026 21:34

NotAtMyAge · 06/04/2026 21:12

My copy of that is a hardback reprint bought in a remainder shop in the 90s.

Our local Oxfam has a very large cookbook shelf, I bet it will show up there eventually.

AsWithGlad · 06/04/2026 21:47

MarieDeGournay · 06/04/2026 21:24

Oh dear, it's just worked out why so many of you are talking about rabbits😬

Vegetarian in sympathy with the rabbit. Yesterday DH and I went out in the car to somewhere about an hour away. Classic FM is on the radio, our usual compromise, with its adverts on repeat. I’m trapped.

I keep hearing one, possibly for Waitrose.
The gist is -
Ah, Easter.
Why do we just think of chocolate eggs in foil.
Think of spring lamb on foil instead.

Not going to Waitrose again.

Boiledbeetle · 06/04/2026 21:48

< checks pub cctv to ensure @EmpressaurusKitty is still in the pub>

<picks back door lock of @EmpressaurusKitty house>

The Bluestocking: To the moon and back gerbil style.
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Boiledbeetle · 06/04/2026 21:51

MyrtleLion · 06/04/2026 20:12

It's been such a lovely day and a wonderful drive through England's countryside, that Gosie has taken the scenic route back to the Bluestocking.

She stopped in a seaside town where she had fish and chips for lunch, then decided on Afternoon Tea at a stately home. She's just finished her dinner in a traditional English pub, and has finally pulled up at a cute Bed and Breakfast to stay the night.

I think she's enjoying being a customer before her return to the Bluestocking tomorrow in the late afternoon (because I'm really busy tomorrow morning).

Is she about to dunk that fish finger in her tea?

Dirty girl!

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Magpiecomplex · 06/04/2026 21:51

Application done and submitted! Now all I have to do is wait...
And all the other things on my list, of course.

JanesLittleGirl · 06/04/2026 21:53

MarieDeGournay · 06/04/2026 21:24

Oh dear, it's just worked out why so many of you are talking about rabbits😬

Sorry Marie but a coney and roots pie is really good eating. It would be cruel if only ugly animals get to be eaten.

Separately, I have had a discussion with my MIL about pasties. Her take is that pointy heads can do whatever they want but if you want a pasty that's a pleasure to eat then you start with short crust pastry made with lard and then shove in chopped skirt or blade braising steak, fine sliced taters and either turnip or swede, plenty of finely chopped onion and as much salt and black pepper as you want. Her walkaway is that it isn't a pasty if the shortening isn't lard.

EmpressaurusKitty · 06/04/2026 21:54

Boiledbeetle · 06/04/2026 21:48

< checks pub cctv to ensure @EmpressaurusKitty is still in the pub>

<picks back door lock of @EmpressaurusKitty house>

@Boiledbeetle, you’re being watched…

The Bluestocking: To the moon and back gerbil style.
Boiledbeetle · 06/04/2026 21:56

Hedgehogforshort · 06/04/2026 21:10

3 varieties of lettuce, beetroot, carrots, onions, garlic, Chard, radishes, peas, all in now.

Runner and french beans courgettes in later.

I also have a perennial fruit bed, raspberries, strawberries, rhubarb, and fennel oh and a welsh onion.

potatoes and herbs to go in tubs tomorrow.

Tomatoes and cucumbers for the greenhouse tomorrow, after tender pots go back out.

some cosmos and zinnia to plant out in gaps in beds later on.

Got some new plate sized dahlias for some pots as i just love them.

Thats my plan this year.

gave up on leeks and corn as no success there. Cannot be doing with brassicas as to much like hard work and don't like netting stuff as we have lots of birds.

might bung in some shallots but birds nick them.

Wow! I'm knackered just reading the list!.

That sounds like a lot of work, but no doubt the results the end are more than worth it

🥔🥕🍅🍠🍆🫑🥒 🥬🥦🫛🍄‍🟫🫜🧅🧄🫚🌰🫘🥜🍄🌽🌶🥑🍋‍🟩🫐🍓🍒🍑🍐🍏🍎🍅🫒🥥🥝🥭🍇🍊🍉🍈🍋🍊🍍🍌

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Boiledbeetle · 06/04/2026 22:00

Co Pilot just asked me, unprompted, if I'd like six gerbil sisters to form a neighbour watch.

WTF?!?

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Hedgehogforshort · 06/04/2026 22:09

I have a niggling worry in the back of my head that we will have real food shortages if this trump made war carries on.

But that was all.

Come last Saturday my daughter mentioned it after mr hedgehog had done the weekly shop.

i opened the staples cupboard and bugger me we have a full on supply of staples, that would keep us going, for a while.

i suppose i could start shooting wood pigeons which are over running our area, (Richard a neighbour has a gun) and maybe rush out and buy a bunch of pet rabbits. I understand they breed quite rapidly, and i will have a supply of carrots and lettuce.

i also have frogs and frog spawn in my pond which does not appeal.

I am a vegetarian but i could eat an animal if push came to shove.

off to panic buy some bog roll…..

Boiledbeetle · 06/04/2026 22:09

Who's a beautiful kitty? You are. Yes you are.

So we're agreed right? When @EmpressaurusKitty gets back from the pub you saw nothing. You don't know where the blanket went or where the Catnip Dreamies came from.

Bye beautiful, it was a pleasure doing business with you.

The Bluestocking: To the moon and back gerbil style.
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Boiledbeetle · 06/04/2026 22:11

Boiledbeetle · 06/04/2026 22:00

Co Pilot just asked me, unprompted, if I'd like six gerbil sisters to form a neighbour watch.

WTF?!?

I obviously meant Neighbourhood watch!
Gah!

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MarieDeGournay · 06/04/2026 22:22

Boiledbeetle · 06/04/2026 21:56

Wow! I'm knackered just reading the list!.

That sounds like a lot of work, but no doubt the results the end are more than worth it

🥔🥕🍅🍠🍆🫑🥒 🥬🥦🫛🍄‍🟫🫜🧅🧄🫚🌰🫘🥜🍄🌽🌶🥑🍋‍🟩🫐🍓🍒🍑🍐🍏🍎🍅🫒🥥🥝🥭🍇🍊🍉🍈🍋🍊🍍🍌

I agree, it's very very impressive, Hedgey - can I sign up for a fortnightly veggie box please?😄

MyrtleLion · 06/04/2026 22:47

Boiledbeetle · 06/04/2026 22:11

I obviously meant Neighbourhood watch!
Gah!

A six-sister neighbourhood watch ready for patrol. Unfortunately only five are in shot. This is not a miscount. That’s the entire point of a neighbourhood watch.
There are only a few explanations, and none of them are comforting:

  1. One is on patrol — but not visible

Possible, but sloppy. This group clearly runs a tight operation. If she were posted elsewhere, there would be a signal—hat, badge, something indicating “sixth accounted for.” There isn’t.

  1. One has gone undercover

More likely. Given the strict “no males (except Colin)” policy, infiltration risk is non-zero. If she’s embedded at the The Staunch Ally, that’s strategic—but it should still be known to the others. They don’t look relaxed enough for that.

  1. One has defected to the vegetable patch black market

You’ve got tomatoes and aubergines thriving in April. That’s not horticulture, that’s organised supply. Someone might have decided guarding is less profitable than… redistribution.

  1. One is missing

This is the real concern.
Five standing firm. One unaccounted for. No visible alarm raised.
That’s not a gap. That’s a situation being contained.
Colin looks calm, which helps—but I wouldn’t assume all variables are controlled.

The Bluestocking: To the moon and back gerbil style.
ErrolTheDragon · 06/04/2026 22:51

You’ve forgotten the obvious explanation - Watch Gerbil 6 was taking the photo.

MyrtleLion · 06/04/2026 22:52

ErrolTheDragon · 06/04/2026 22:51

You’ve forgotten the obvious explanation - Watch Gerbil 6 was taking the photo.

Of course!

WearyAuldWumman · 06/04/2026 23:36

Dad was one of the Displaced Persons who'd been on the allied side during the war. He was told that speaking his own language would hinder my ability to speak English. (There were several children of Displaced Persons at my school and every single one of us was monolingual.)

It was Mum who pushed Dad to tell me something of my heritage. He thought he'd never be able to go home and resisted teaching me the language. According to Mum, it was "Yugoslav".

When I was about 8 I found a series of books in the local library about a brother and sister who travelled all through Europe. One was about Yugoslavia and included a few phrases of the local language.

Then I saw a book called "Teach Yourself Serbo-Croat, the Language of Yugoslavia." It was in the adult section, so Mum borrowed it for me and then ordered a copy. That's how I learned Cyrillic, a few more phrases and numbers.

However, Dad resisted teaching me.

When we were finally able to visit the family when I was 11, I couldn't speak to my relatives. The second time, I'd started to learn Russian at school and that helped me to understand a bit more.

However, I admit to having had a mental block about learning the language over resentment that I was brought up monolingual.

It's a bit of a dichotomy. As a child I had a vague notion that learning any language that I could would help me to learn my dad's language...and then I went through a lengthy phase when I just gave up.

It wasn't helped by being prescribed Clopimramine for my OCD when I was in my 30s...I forgot all my Russian. I thought that it had gone forever until a year or so after stopping them, I realised that it had all come back. (That's why I refused to keep taking anti-depressants after Dh died. I tried them for 3 days and realised that I didn't feel right. One bitten, twice shy.)

I remember that one of the girls with a Polish father and I got joint top for Latin when we were in Third Year. The teacher wanted us both to learn Russian. My parents agreed; the other girl's father went up to the school and apparently spoke to the teacher and ranted at him in fluent Russian: "My daughter will not learn Russian! There is nothing in Russia but poverty."

I believe that a handful of Polish fathers in the area taught Polish to their children, but none of the children in our school knew any. In fact, many of them tried to hide their foreign heritage - in many cases, the family took the wife's name or anglicised the name. My dad's pal had a daughter who picked up some Slovene on family holidays once they were able to go back. To my knowledge, I'm the only one from the area who knows any Serbo-Croatian. (Or as it now is: Bosnian/Croatian/Montenegrin/Serbian.)

When I taught in the area, I had several pupils whose grandfathers had been Displaced Persons and not a single one of them knew a word of their heritage language. Most of the grandfathers had been in the mineworkers' hostel at the same time as Dad. There were Yugoslavs, Poles, Czechs, Slovaks, Ukrainians...

Once we started to get pupils from the EU coming to the school where I worked, I always tried to pick up a bit of the language to make it easier for me to teach them English. I basically relied on knowing Russian and a bit of S-C plus buying myself a copy of Teach Yourself (or similar) for the language.

The funniest outcome of that was the time that an interpreter was too embarrassed to translate everything being said by an irate Polish mother who accused the school of racism. [The kid had earlier been excluded for calling another teacher a "black b**ch" and had kicked off in my department, culminating in her suggesting that I eff off.]

I've told the story elsewhere on the boards. She kept ranting about this and that, not realising that I could understand her - so I just translated for the depute when the interpreter had missed things out. He was very quick on the uptake. The interpreter wasn't...

Most of the wartime Poles are now deceased, of course, but there was sometimes tension between them and the newer arrivals. On more than one occasion, I heard the newer [adult] Poles referring to the Polish airmen and soldiers as "the ones that ran away". I suppose that that's what happens when you read the history books written by the Soviets.

I tend not to say too much IRL about my heritage these days and I find myself biting my tongue to an extent on here too.

Sorry. This has been much longer than I intended.

WearyAuldWumman · 06/04/2026 23:38

Boiledbeetle · 06/04/2026 22:11

I obviously meant Neighbourhood watch!
Gah!

Meh. It depends.

The wifie next door does a neighbour watch, but I always spot her. She's an amateur compared with my mum. [You don't look through the net curtains. Use the letterbox.]

WearyAuldWumman · 06/04/2026 23:40

Hedgehogforshort · 06/04/2026 22:09

I have a niggling worry in the back of my head that we will have real food shortages if this trump made war carries on.

But that was all.

Come last Saturday my daughter mentioned it after mr hedgehog had done the weekly shop.

i opened the staples cupboard and bugger me we have a full on supply of staples, that would keep us going, for a while.

i suppose i could start shooting wood pigeons which are over running our area, (Richard a neighbour has a gun) and maybe rush out and buy a bunch of pet rabbits. I understand they breed quite rapidly, and i will have a supply of carrots and lettuce.

i also have frogs and frog spawn in my pond which does not appeal.

I am a vegetarian but i could eat an animal if push came to shove.

off to panic buy some bog roll…..

I've not planted any vegetables, but I should be able to harvest dandelions. I can try aiming pebbles at the wood pigeons.

I have plenty of wild garlic.

MarieDeGournay · 06/04/2026 23:53

It was fascinating to read your Dad's story , WAW, really fascinating to read about language and its many meanings, personal and emotional and economic and practical.
Thank you for sharing it, please feel free to tell us more any time.

MarieDeGournay · 07/04/2026 00:10

The Neighbourhood Watch look scary, don't they? I wouldn't mess with them.
Whoever wrote their sign left the 'u' out of neighbourhood, they probably say 'bathroom' instead of 'toilet' too😄

I was going to get ready for bed and then I realised that the spacepeople were going to go around the dark side of the moon, and I'm staying up to see them safely back around the other side.

Obviously the space programme is an awful waste of money and all that - but it's also thrilling to think of them going being away from earth than humans have ever been, ever. The thrill of it overrides the critique of space exploration - or at least it is overriding it tonightSmile

The Mirror has as its headline 'We saw the whole of the moon' which some of you - deffo SionnachRua, I bet - will recognise as being from that most extraordinary song The Whole of the Moon by the Waterboys

......
I was grounded
While you filled the skies
I was dumbfounded by truths
You cut through lies
I saw the rain-dirty valley
You saw Brigadoon
I saw the crescent
You saw the whole of the moon
........
I spoke about wings
You just flew
I wondered, I guessed and I tried
You just knew
.....
Unicorns and cannonballs
Palaces and piers
Trumpets, towers, and tenements
Wide oceans full of tears
Flags, rags, ferry boats
Scimitars and scarves
Every precious dream and vision
Underneath the stars
Yes, you climbed on the ladder
With the wind in your sails
You came like a comet
Blazing your trail
Too high
Too far
Too soon
You saw the whole of the moon
🌕

Boiledbeetle · 07/04/2026 00:12

WearyAuldWumman · 06/04/2026 23:38

Meh. It depends.

The wifie next door does a neighbour watch, but I always spot her. She's an amateur compared with my mum. [You don't look through the net curtains. Use the letterbox.]

But then I'd have to move my comfy chair to by the letterbox. These days though I don't even have to twitch the curtains, whenever I heard it kicking off I just go to live view on my Ring doorbell.

Nosy neighbour 21st century edition.

Fascinating post about the languages. My mum was always annoyed at my grandad for refusing to teach her Welsh growing up. She was still annoyed with him over it long after he was gone. She tried learning it as an adult but it wouldn't sink in!

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