Trans people are more obsessed with JK Rowling then they think she is with them

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It's strange, isn't it? They really can't keep her name out of their mouths. Very baffling.

There is zero evidence transwomen face any male violence. In fact, transwomen have said they are safe in the mens, the worst they get is a smirk. Two well known transwomen on X have even filmed themselves entering the mens. Nothing. No abuse. Nothing. The fact that even some women cut the womens loo queue and go into the mens confirms this.

Regardless, male on male violence is male on male violence. It doesn't make a male any more or any less susceptible. And women are not human shields for male-on-male violence.

Sorry but I am replying as I go along the thread. This is usually how threads go on mumsnet. We don't bulk reply. We reply to individual posts as we go progress through the thread.

It is odd how a few people believe they can tell the rest of the population what to think, believe and how to act.

What I am going to do this morning, rather than engage with you, is report every single baseless lie you’ve posted. Trans women don’t face male violence? I’m tone policing feminists? I can’t: people like you are the reason jk has no support. Stop telling me what to do or explaining what I’m doing wrongly. You look ridiculous. You’re embarassing jk and feminists

That’s what you’re doing with trans people! Oh good lord. Paint drying would be a more effective use of my time.

Can't cope with the truth

Look. Trans women are in reality no closer to being women than any other man. They may believe they are, but it's just in their heads.

Why should we accept some sort of middle ground where some men are really women some of the time? It's not true. And it demeans and belittles women to pretend it is.

Acceping men as women, or even pretending to as a kindness, is accepting the reductive idea that being a woman is in part down to thinking or feeling a certain way.

But feelings are not the arbitrer of women's reality. And women's lives and spaces are not resources for the benefit of sad men in need of comfort, no matter how genuinely those men may feel they are entitled to them.

Women deserve to be allowed to exist in our own right and on our own terms without being required to adjust ourselves into the shapes men require us to be. I'm very sad you think so little of women that you do not see that.

If she’d provided facts for this I would have coped but she didn’t. Trump is setting a bad example.
i will not cope with being tone policed and called not a feminist by someone who is tone policing and not a feminist. I hope mn report her to the police for hate speech; I honestly do. What you say online has consequences. People read it

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We do, the difference between me and you is I’m pragmatic and you’re idealistic. It just depends which you think is more effective at securing women’s rights

You might think this is funny but the police and the equality act won’t

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Do you see why I think this is just embarassing to be hateful though and not cool? You can’t accuse others of bullying you if you bully others. You can’t play the victim if you’re doing it to others. Why? Becuase people don’t respect hypocrites

You know who suffers the most violence and indeed murders at the hands of men? Other men.

Plenty of men are vulnerable. Plenty of men fear attacks by other men. Plenty of men find all male spaces intimidating or unpleasant. Plenty of men are no threat to women.

And yet, only one group of men are seen by people like you as having a moral right to the protections that are supposed to be for women.

It's very weird.

The statistics show that trans people are in fact the least marginalised and the least vulnerable of all protected groups:

thecritic.co.uk/neither-marginalised-abused-nor-vulnerable/

Hang on. Really? You want MNHQ to report a poster to the police? For what? Disagreeing with you? Because, as you say yourself, you won't cope with being tone policed and called not a feminist?

Wow!

I see we escalated pretty quickly from "JK should be more strategic and she'd win friends for her positions that I support" to "you big meanies are all getting dobbed in to the rozzers"

For calling all trans women predators yes. It’s hate speech. It she said it about a gay person or a black person or anyone else id report it too.
its hate speech this is not hard.

My belief is that everyone has a moral right to protection and we all have a duty to provide it

I don’t think they’ll do anything but hopefully she’ll think twice before making comments like that.

Men who identify as women are just as likely to be a predator as every other man on the planet. In fact the prison stats show they are actually MORE likely to be than your average man.

You may not like that fact but it's not hate speech.

I'm watching the BBC news at the moment. A report about how non crime hate incidents have been scrapped and the police will no longer be attending or investigating reports.

TRAs can no longer weaponise the police when they don't like what people post online

I know you won't secure women's rights by giving them away.

You won't secure women's rights by diluting the idea of womanhood to include some men based on feelings.

What you will do is create a world where women's rights are harder and harder to justify, because you've disconnected the social concept of "women" from the underlying experiences and challenges that women's rights exist for.

There are plenty of ways to support and protect people who believe they have trans identities without treating them like they actually are the opposite sex. It is a TRA manipulation to pretend the only possible solution involves taking from men to give to men.

And by God do they want to keep you focused on that, on the question of just where on a line between women and men trans women get to be, instead of you asking the very simple question of why should they be on that line at all when in reality they are just men?