Trans people are more obsessed with JK Rowling then they think she is with them

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It's strange, isn't it? They really can't keep her name out of their mouths. Very baffling.

I disagree with you. But I suspect that we will have to agree to disagree on this.

'Live not by lies' is only a short essay; however, Solzhenitsyn did also write 'The Gulag Archipelago', which is probably his most well-known work.

Very good question. Most of these people obsessed with whataboutery who want Rolling to discuss anything, anything but this issue that desperately needs a spokesperson, never do so themselves. They don't care about the issues they raised. Their sole goal is to stop Rowling from talking about the one issue they are desperate to quash discussion. It's so disingenuous.

I’m really sorry I can’t take you seriously.
jkr doesn’t hate trans people. She’s never said that. She’s got carried away beefing with people who did vile things to her and no one remembers her original child and women safeguarding points, which were extremely important and needed to be said.
i think there are better ways to get people onside than beefing with tras for 5-6 years until moderate people are too frightened to go near the subject, yes. If that’s silencing her or redirecting her you tell me

This is victim-blaming. They bait her. Not the other way around. They tweet her abuse, and she has the right to call them out. If they left her alone she would have nothing to say. You're basically saying she should sit there and take the abuse, death threats and rape threats. You're basically attacking the victim who punched his bully back, after the bully punched them first.

Males are NOT a 'minority' group. They are 50% of the population, and are the oppressor sex class. Putting 1% of males in a dress instead of a suit and tie doesn't make those males a vulnerable minority. This is insulting.

Womens rights have always pissed people off. Imagine where we'd be if the suffragettes gave up.

lol omg I’m really not. Jk is intelligent and has other options (including criminal charges) instead of social media shade.
please can you learn what these terms mean before you throw them around on Mumsnet. I just can’t seriously engage with you otherwise

Can you just do one long respisne instead of these mini replies I can’t keep track of?

I don't agree with ourselves using the terf label (though I call myself merf - male exclusionary, that's more accurate). Though some feminists have adopted the reclaimed the label to remove the slurs and pain, much like African Americans have with the n word.

No, she is pissing off the right people, the people who badly need to be pissed off.

The world has more than enough people going on about Epstein, child abuse, Putin, whatever whataboutery you want to throw in because you just don't want this topic discussed by anyone.

Why the f should women always be the 'bigger person'? Why?

The issue of the conflict between womens rights and trans rights is very much a live issue and will remain so for a long time, with our without JK Rowling adding
anything.

How would it have "died a quiet death years ago"? There is still FWS vs Scotland, Sandie Peggie, etc etc. Now the IOC. Sports. Without Rowling this issue is not ever going away any time soon.

Please tell me how I’m tone policing?

You want JK to sit there, take their attacks and death and rape threats, and not defend herself.

Even more than that, you don't want her to talk about the topic, at...all.

No, you are the one being offensive trying to gaslit an oppressed sex to allow our oppressors to appropriate our oppression. An oppressor deserves zero respect. It damages and HARMS women by demanding we mis-sex men. It causes IMMENSE damage and harm. When you ask the oppressed to mis-sex our oppressor to cosplay, you cause immense damage and harm. You've never truly, deeply and genuinely thought about this, have you? Defending men's demands appears to be your default setting. I suggest you read Pronouns are Rohypnol • Fair Play For Women to understand the harm and damage you are causing.

The point is, a male putting on a dress does not change Male Pattern behaviour. You want to think a male's WORD should be taken. Yeah well us women all know all too well from civilisation how 'wise' it is to take men at their word.

Yet for a supposed minority group, they have managed in less than 10 to 15 years, get society reorganised, the definition of women changed/removed, men in womens prisons, change rooms and rape crisis centres and battered womens shelters - and nailed rats to the door of battered womens shelters who wouldn't comply and had their funding cut off and the shelter closed, women called menstruators, bleeders, cervix havers, birthing person and 'front hole person' (true, from a 'health' organisation in Canada), managed to get children removed from their parents if their parents won't agree to trans them, girls as young as 13 and 14 having double mastectomies, infiltrated the highest echelons in government, health and education.

Not even gay men had this power, they had to struggle for many decades to get anywhere.

The enormous speed that trans have infiltrated and upturned every single section of society, and it's tenacles reach into every single section and area of society - shows and proves this is a group of ENORMOUS power, privilege and protection. They are the highest of sacred castes. And they could not do it even it weren't driven by the patriarchy.

There is no group at the highest level of the totem pole, no group more celebrated, more powerful, more privileged, more protected, than trans. They are the most powerful of sacred castes. So lets cut this 'minority', 'marginalised' bs. They are THE single most powerful - and successful - lobby group in history!

Aggressive TRAs march through London, Scotland, etc with signs saying death to terfs, decapitate terfs, the only good terf is a dead terf, while pulling out their penises and urinating - literally - urinating on feminist statues in public.

You think they are not going to be noticed if Rowling's name isn't attached? Aggressive TRAs are in-your-face live on tv in rallies. Even if Rowling was a TRA and not on our side, we'd still notice the violent TRAs.

Nope, the LGB want a divorce and it's now with many groups, officially the LGB now. Nothing else.

Trans people face discrimination.

If you mean positive discrimination, yes. Trans are the crem de la crem (sp?). They are the highest point of the totem pole. The sacred caste which is the most powerful, privileged and protected. Even the 'cis' man is way below them.

Sorry, but Lily is a predator and no different than Dave. Any male in a female only single sex space knows he is not welcome there. He knows he doesn't belong there. He knows he is violating boundaries. He knows that. He knows it. Yet he puts his self-serving wishes above the needs and rights of those vulnerable and marginalised (for real) females. There is no difference in action and motivation between Dave and Lily.

The fact you think womens rights campaigns are 'anti-trans' tells us you ADMIT that being pro-trans is anti-women. Feminists fund womens rights campaigns. That is not a surprise to anyone with room IQ. You are saying a lot when you admit that women having sex based rights is anti-male/anti-trans.

Get back to us when feminists give males and trans identified males rape threats and death threats and threaten to stab, punch and decapitate them and urinate all over feminist statues. Because the violence is all one way, and you know it.

Per capita, it's a large amount. Women are more safer with 'cis' men than they are with transwomen, sadly. That is what the data clearly proves.

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There is no evidence whatsoever they face male violence. The evidence shows they are more likely to dish out violence, than receive any back.

It takes two to beef. Why don't you go and lecture and scold those that hunt out JK and attack her and start the beef, in the first place. Oh, never mind. We know why.