Trans people are more obsessed with JK Rowling then they think she is with them

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It's strange, isn't it? They really can't keep her name out of their mouths. Very baffling.

Trans-identifying men are often predatory:

https://reduxx.info/transgender-youth-advocate-charged-with-rape-of-infant-girl-in-washington/

https://reduxx.info/exclusive-transgender-pedophile-convicted-of-raping-4-year-old-girl-files-legal-claim-requesting-transfer-to-womens-prison/

https://reduxx.info/australia-transgender-pedophile-who-raped-5-year-old-daughter-now-suing-womens-prison-for-human-rights-violations/

https://reduxx.info/transgender-reddit-moderator-deletes-account-after-being-exposed-as-registered-child-sex-offender/

you’re explaining facts. Worryingly, as prison is not representative of general population, but that is different to hate speech. You show well how we can do this without insulting people or making blanket statements that are purposefully offensive. I’m not gonna be involved in hate speech or breaking the law

You really need to read up on prison stats.

Men who say rhey are women are in jail for sexual offences at a rate 3 times higher than men who do not say they are women.

And a man who enters a female single sex space automatically is a predator because it is part of predatory behaviour. This is all well known stuff.

Right. So why is there any need to give women's proections to sad men, to the detriment of women? Why not protect these the sad men in the ways you are going to protect the other vulnerable men?

We have similar conclusions. Don’t fight each other, fight the real problem. Which I don’t think jkr is doing when she gets into it with tras online.
im going to leave this convo now. Some of you have been nice to talk to. Some of you have tone policed me after accusing me of doing it to jkr. Some of you are actually highly problematic and immature and like jk, isolating people who would have supported you.
men do help secure women’s rights if theyre allies. Insulting people who would have helped you is not strategic in my book

Still wondering how allowing Dave to get his knob out in women's spaces is the "pragmatic" and yea "strategic" move that's totally going to secure women't spaces.

One might speculate that Dave getting his knob out is the desired end point, and everything else is just rationalisation.

So was the other poster, you just didn't like the way that poster writes.

You seem to be taking an awful lot of offense at some random posts on an internet forum.

We’re not in prison thank god. What are your stats for gen pop?

I have taken offense and I’ve explained why. I’m not calling trans people predators becuase they’re trans. It’s hate speech.

Not focusing on Dave the perp and focusing on the victims of vawg instead would be my advice. But honestly idc if you take it or not.

Is there any female-designated space, service or activity that you think a man shouldn't be allowed to join on his own say so?

@butterfly231:

How do women tell the difference, in a quick glance because that’s all they’ll get, between a naice trans-identifying man in women’s clothing in the women’s toilet, and Dave the perp who is wearing women’s clothing to get into the women’s toilet for nefarious purposes?

Why do you think, when only 0.5% of rapes are even investigated, that this wouldn't be even higher amongst the general population?

It’s normally men who have an intimate relationship with the victim. We know this. I can prove it. Why argue over this? We need to keep shouting this so people believe victims if they speak up.

Id prefer to focus on lessening the number of victims in the first place, than hand-wringing about it afterwards.

That's called 'safeguarding'or it used to be.

Why should we keep increasing the number of victims just to not be mean to men who say they are women?

It's not about trans people it's about MEN.

No one here is calling trans people predators because they are trans. People on here are pointing out that MEN who identify as women are just as likely to be dangerous as your average bloke.

As a woman I personally think that any man who goes in the women's loos for example is a wrong un. The men that claim to be women as they do it worry me more though as they've already transgressed a boundary most men won't cross and barged their way in to a space they don't belong.

Wouldn't it be great if victims of vawg could be confident that they could attend a therapy group or refuge without worrying about the presence of men.

Maybe JKR could concentrate on that.

Oh wait a minute, she did. She opened Beiras Place and was called transphobic because it's female only

And that’s the conversation about safeguarding. That’s the real issue. Because it’s the same for any human being on the planet: anyone can potentially hurt you, and how do you protect people and keep them safe without infringing on others rights?

And trying to manipulate women to be kind to those who subscribe to a sexist belief system is ok?

No.

Transgenderism is sexism. Pure and simple. It's not ok to expect women to condone that.

There are damages to women other than rape, and "probably not a rapist" is not a good enough reason to accept womanhood being relegated to a feeling or a state of mind.

Oh, the irony!

A very basic one for women is single sex spaces and provisions.

A more subtle one is to ensure clear language.

Yes and men who say they are women also know women. Do you think they all jump out of alleys to rape and sexually assault people?
Often they like other predatory men will lure women in by being the nice guy before any attacks take place.

These are all well known tactics.

See I have no problem with this viewpoint because it’s women focused and not attacking a marginalised group. It’s not hard. Yes it probably is sexist to feel that we need such strict gender roles that people find experiences as living as the other so distressing they need to change it. This is interesting. This I like engaging with.
abusing trans people no not interested

Do you know the phrase “good men stay out so bad men stand out”?

That’s how safeguarding works. We see that on average, all men are a potential threat to women, whether they wear dresses for pure or impure reasons, and so we keep them all out.

For a start you keep men out of female single sex spaces. They have no right to be ther