Hannah Spencer harassed in Manchester

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Despite the fact that certain very vocal sections of this board are aggressively anti-trans and anti-Green, I'd gently suggest that this kind of confrontation and abuse is unacceptable in any civilised society, regardless of personal ideologies.

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Perhaps the saddest irony here is that these male bigots claim to be protecting women's rights whilst trying to attack a woman MP. On International Women's Day.

I'd be curious to see how other MNetters feel about this situation...

How would these people cope if the word "problematic" was banished from their vocabulary?

Despite being immersed in this shit for about nine years, I continue to be astonished by how unbelievably thick these people are. Maybe one day I'll come to terms with it.

Ooh it's those folksy "folks" again!

What do they mean by "events" here?

What a surprise....

So, are they going to debate her findings with her? Or just try to drown out her session so no one can hear? Because one would be the mature way to interact and the other not so much....

The woman in the sparkly green jacket with the old trope pontificating about violence against women and girls being perpetuated by 'cisgender men' doesn't watch news or read a newspaper or read online! Where has she been? Bonkers absolutely bonkers

But at least she didn't punch Matrix or swear at him.

The problem is, when your arguments amount to shouting unintelligibly about bigotted brands and toxic pitchforks, you probably are better off taking the drowning-out approach.

No doubt you are correct there Catiette.

That’s about the size of it, I think.

Is anyone in touch with her, she should be made aware.

We want to focus on three things:

1. low quality of her academic/policy work

Yeah, she probably only got a job as Professor at UCL because no-one else applied and they were desperate, or something🙄

Am shocked at the violence from the man in the green hat who as far as I can understand, works for unison. I hope he is arrested soon

Has OP actually condemned the Unison man who punched the women in the face?

Or is this another case of ‘hurty words’ (asking questions of an MP) actually worse than literal physical violence towards women?

OP has left the chat after being shown up for not understanding the situation properly

Just back down, TRA. You've had your arguments disproven. You can't even outline what you, or trans activists want, instead you're asking us to? How can we, when you can't.

You think that transgender feeling is more important and takes precendent over women's rights. You're avoiding facing the truth and it shows. Just think, for one moment, without all of your ingrained brainwashed slogans. Think about it logically and you will see. It's okay to admit that you were wrong.

Apologies, I’ve not watched either of them before but wanted to see the story for myself.
OP seems to have the completely wrong end of the stick from what I can see.

1. low quality of her academic/policy work,
2. her problematic connections to organizations such as Sex Matters, and
3. how she and her work have impacted trans folks in the UK.

1. says the researcher of a Professor's work. If they're soliciting information from Reddit, they'll likely to be nothing more than a low grade researcher for the rest of their career.
2. Sex Matters is a women's right's organisation, only an anti-women misogynist would think a connection was problematic.
3. Easy to answer, it hasn't impacted on them in anyway whatsoever.

Heaven forbid they actually attend the event and learn something, while they're in a place of higher education. They'll get nothing from the Reddits but dribble.

Thick and mean. So many who are incredibly thin skinned, quick to take offence, short sighted, yet self righteous and arrogant.

Wait, are we talking about genderists or university faculty? I’m happy to include the lot together ie genderists academics.

Maybe academics more broadly. Maybe all university staff 🤔

Edited to add that coordinating an attack on an academic’s professional standing simply and only because she holds a different view on a matter is ruthless and the opposite of what education is supposed to mean based on values of open discussion and careful interrogation of a concept for its validity.

Women posting on boards organised around feminism and women’s rights outing themselves as… feminists concerned about the attack on women’s rights. It’s shocking.

Some people will take any opportunity to patronise and demonise women.

You’ll know the quip about why academic competition is so bitchy? Because the stakes are so small…

The male Unison Rep punched a female journalist in the face. TRAs also started the physical conflict. So put the blame where it belongs OP. On TRAs. It's more evidence of TRA violence. They're really a cliche at this point.

Yes, and look at the abuse and death threats Rosie Duffield got from TRAs. She had to pull out of going on the hustings at one point. I bet the OP never condemned that.

You're not pro womens rights if you think it's ok for fully intact males to enter female only changing rooms and toilets because they wear a dress and claim to be a transwoman.

What is it you think trans people want?

Males in female spaces, sport, etc.

Males are 50% of the population and are the predator and oppressor sex class. That doesn't change because a male puts on a dress. The fact that trans were able to obliterate womens sex based rights and spaces in one decade, have us redefined, reorder society promoting them on IWD, and getting women sacked who say no, is PROOF of that they are the most protected, most privileged and most powerful Sacred Caste there is.

Point out the 'transphobia'. If being pro womens sex based rights is 'twwwannnsphobic', then being pro trans is anti women. Jezebel seems to be a hotbed of misogynistic femphobic political ideology.

So your definition of women does not include transwomen then? Please clarify if that's what you're saying?