Row breaks out over event’s single sex policy: bbc

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Row breaks out over event's single-sex policy https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c8jxek8w8m0o

I cant say i have ever heard the word Femme used in relation to trans culture - but then I am not involved in it. But it has for years, decades been about gay culture, and it was part of 70s women's liberation feminism which was against gender stereo typing that meant lesbians who were also women's liberationist campaigned against.

But almost worse, and isn't that just typical of the trans community, stealthing by men in hetrosexuality has been an act of male violence that women's groups have long campaigned to be recognised for what it is. Male sexual violence against women.

So please do not let the distorted logic of the trans community try and appropriate the word.

Although of course it does reveal how gross their minds are that they would want to use a word that is how recognised by the legal system in the UK as rape of a biological woman by a biological male.

https://rapecrisis.org.uk/get-informed/types-of-sexual-violence/what-is-stealthing/

Reading the Reddit Thread was like stepping into a parallel universe, where up was down and in was out. They're nuts, everyone knows they're nuts right. 🤯

The trans-identified woman who attends sisters heal has posted. I've changed my mind about her attendance. It seems every one is comfortable with her being there, she appears thoughtful and not wanting to cause any upset, and my goodness does she need the support after truly horrendous childhood abuse. It's remarkable to me that the main support group includes trans-identified men but denies trans-identified women.

Wow, she laid it all out for them, and all she got was a dismissive 'sorry' before being chastised for consorting with the enemy.

I hope the cancelling helps her deal with the nightmare experience she was subjected to.
I also hope she comes to her sense's and realises who's on her side and who isn't, and dump the sorry, waste of space people she see's as her 'community'.

The whole thing is very sad. No wonder she rejected her female body. Of course there's no empathy from the men in dresses or their trans-identified handmaidens. I'm glad at least that she is getting support from sisters heal.

That post from the trans man is heartbreaking. There should be no need to justify getting support. It shows that as long as there is full transparency, and the women are made aware beforehand then including trans men in women’s service can work.

"Stealthing" in the trans sense predates "stealthing" as the description for pretending to wear a condom or stealthily removing it.

' ...it saddens me to see members of our community siding with TERFs over their sisters against transmisogyny.'

This 'siding' consists of attending support sessions for survivors.

Christ. You'd think they could have a glimmer of empathy.

Those pesky trans exclusionary women going about including women who are trans its almost like they aren't actually trans exclusionary at all.

She talked.about being pregnant at 13 and trauma, and got comparisons with Nazi collaborators.

I suppose it shouldnt shock me by now.

Yes presumably by her father who was raping her from the age of just 7. Truly horrendous abuse. How could anyone react to that story by chastising her for seeking some support?

Yes, sad she felt the need to justify herself but I can see why from the way she was being spoken about. Imagine being a survivor of that kind of abuse and coming across a post where your so called community spoke about you like that. I hope she’s ok.

I still remember how shocked I was when I saw how TRAs spoke to detransitioners. I learned a lot that day.

There's no humanity, no empathy, just nothing but zeal for the cause, and people are either useful tools to the cause or they are not. Its one of the reasons I find the emotive pleading for feelings so hard to take - it's only because those feelings fit the speaker's agenda, if those feelings change they'll abandon the person on the spot.

Also, logically, if say a Transman is a man, then if that ‘man’ becomes a woman she is really a wonderful, brave, transwoman.

Exactly!

Make it make sense!

It's almost as though we aren't excluding people on the basis of being trans at all... but on their sex...? Who would have guessed?!

TERF watch are beyond a joke aren’t they? Posting more Instagram pictures of Sisters Heal staff and writing a Substack about how Sisters Heal are definitely not being harassed.

Bluntly, personality disorder. I really hope she has good support. Its unconscionable that they talk about her in the way that they have, the heartless fuckers.

You're starting from the point of a group of people who live in their own personal reality, shutting out the bits they don't like and believing hard in what they would like to be the truth.

Not much is going to make sense.

They are completely nuts but I think most people want to be kind and be a good LGBTQ ally and these activists do a really great job of convincing people that women’s groups like Sisters Heal are transphobic.

I don’t think most people realise there is a world of difference between these activists (who are completely nuts) and regular trans people just living their lives.

The most shocking thing were the OP’s responses to her though one of them has been deleted by the moderators as it was too egregious even for them. The OP is also a trans-identified woman but very much sucking up to trans-identified men with talk of solidarity and ‘transmisogyny’. Just like the real world, the men are centred above all else.

I think a significant proportion of all trans people are just as nuts. The reasonable ones are few and far between, though the woman attending sisters heal seems like a decent person.

I do not understand why they haven't been reported to the police.

Not asking Sister Health to do this as they have enough to cope with, but surely there must be women of some sort of feminism in Brighton, the Brighton area who can report them.

This is stalking.

This is intrusion of privacy.

This is encouraging violence against women.

This is intimidation of provision of women only (sex based) support service which is legally allowed in the UK.

Presumably there are no local politicians in Brighton who could be asked to investigate.

Is there a Women of Sussex group?

I have several acquaintences who are otherwise very nice people, fun to be with, not activists. They are all also rabidly behind the destruction of women's rights and support all the 'die in a grease fire' stuff, and it's all over their feed all the time. The 'just getting on with their lives (and not supporting the destroying women's rights and child safeguarding)' is probably as much a myth as the slightly fraudulent, lovely, sensitive and fully transitioned accountant, who is the reason given as to why men should be allowed into women's prisons.

Sisters Heal were at the same event as KJK in Nottingham yesterday. I wonder if they came to her attention? I got the impression all the orgs there were completely captured and TWAW.

They are, but there is nothing remotely funny about this level of harassment. It's designed to intimidate and silence women.