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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Mass Shooting in Tumbler Ridge Canada

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fromorbit · 11/02/2026 07:59

Looks like it was a man in a dress. Another tragedy. More lives lost. Boys with violent tendencies cannot be told they are actually girls. The violent background of trans activism is a problem.

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BREAKING

The identity of the Tumbler Ridge shooter can now be confirmed as Jesse “Jess” Strang.

Strang is a biological male who started to “identify” as a "girl" around 2023.

Strang was raised in a family that valued hunting, and began learning how to shoot rifles when he was just a child. Many guns were kept in the family's residence.

Facebook posts from his mother indicate he may have struggled with behavioral issues, including violent tendencies, from a very young age.

Strang fatally shot 10 people prior to taking his own life.

In 2021, Strang launched a YouTube channel that was promoted by his mother on her Facebook. The channel was dedicated to "hunting, self-reliance, guns" and his other interests. At some point, Strang deleted the content on the channel and changed his handle from "Jesse Boy" to "JessJessUwU." The only remaining post on the channel was made 6 months ago and reads "I've been pretty, um, aimless."

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BREAKING The identity of the Tumbler Ridge shooter can now be confirmed as Jesse “Jess” Strang. Strang is a biological male who started to “identify” as a "girl" around 2023. Strang was raised in a family that valued hunting, and began learning ho...

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nicepotoftea · 11/02/2026 21:25

So started to transition in 2020, just when the world went on-line.

ArabellaScott · 11/02/2026 21:27

AngelinaFibres · 11/02/2026 20:49

Men move like men. Even the butchest of women is clearly biologically female , even from a distance. A camp man is clearly a camp man no matter how far away. Transwomen have male shoulders and a male pelvis. Those things affect how you walk no matter how hard you try. The shooter had just murdered his mother and brother. I doubt his mind was focused on ' walk like a woman ' 'be feminine'.He would have looked exactly what he was ....a man in a dress.

Footage of 'Evie' Amati's machete attack was instructive (and horrifying). He may have had long hair and been wearing a dress, but he had the physique and swing of a lumberjack.

Slothtoes · 11/02/2026 21:27

In the Canadian authorities anxiety not to misgender the perpetrator I predict a lot of ableism will be voiced. I am confident that the apparent autism angle will be highlighted as a blame factor in this horrific crime, because nobody in power in Canada will want to consider whether the gender identity grooming this young man went though in recent years or whatever doctors or psychologists may or may not have provided to him around that, might have in any way have been a contributing factor.

CapacityBrown · 11/02/2026 21:43

Mark Carney has a daughter who has been to the Tavistock, so don't expect any change in Canada around this.

SwirlyGates · 11/02/2026 21:43

Catiette · 11/02/2026 12:12

Thanks. I've read it. :(

It's the theft of the word "female" I just can't accept. I find it telling that there's never been the slightest acknowledgement of the immense concession that giving a subset of males the word "woman" involved (not that women were ever asked). It's acceding to our redefinition - in line with their (somewhat - immeasurably, in some cases - sexist) values and standards. I mean, I know we all know this, but I still find it hard to believe it's happened. And at least the adjective "trans" mitigated this. But then we had the inevitable slippage: transwoman > trans woman > woman > female. So "female"'s unforgivable to me. It leaves us with nothing, and it misrepresents the reality we all live and see, every single day.

In cases like this, it's distorting language to reconstruct reality in line with the murderer's self-perception - and this means implicitly absorbing all his victims, the fearful locals looking out for the wrong person (were older people less au fait with gender identity theory left proportionately more vulnerable because of this?), readers globally and every woman everywhere into his subjective framing of the world, regardless of their own. So after taking his victims' lives, he's given the power to subsume their identities, too - any females among them? well, according to the words used, they were "like him", and shared something fundamental with him. And those readers not au fait with this alternative reality (whole nations, cultures, demographics)? Excluded from fully understanding the truth of what happened - and implicitly posited as deserving of their own lack of understanding, or as irrelevant, even, because they're not OTRSOH: their own values are implicitly secondary to ours - secondary to his. It's unconscionable, and astonishingly Orwellian.

Distorting the word "female" leaves a fundamental part of human experience - half of humanity - undefined and unsayable. It shatters our shared understanding - and social cohesion. We need it!

As long as the Canadian authorities are prepared to misuse it in this way, I kind of agree that the BBC are stuck between a rock and a hard place. I too really resent their use of "gender" in place of "sex" - they're well bloody aware of the difference, and that everything hinges on it... but a more accurate '“That alert described a "female in a dress with brown hair" - but the person's name or gender sex are yet to be publicly released”* *wouldn't have been far from yelling Liar, liar! at the Canadian authorities. I still think there were ways to make it clearer, though, eg. “That alert described a "female in a dress with brown hair" - but there appears to remain some uncertainty surrounding the offender's status and identity.

I do feel kind of bad of theorising like this - my heart goes out to the victims, and speculation about this again detracts from the focus on them... but I think it's so, so important to discuss the implications of prioritising his identity above all else. They're huge. We've really got ourselves into an impossible mess with this. Never mind Orwell, it's the stuff of Swiftian satire.

It makes me so mad. In calling themselves women/girls/female/she/her, they are redefining us, without our consent.

BettyBooper · 11/02/2026 21:44

HolyGround13 · 11/02/2026 21:19

I mean reporting things which are unsubstantiated, which they were at that time. Trans or not, it would have been wrong to report the sex of the perpetrator based on speculation and unverified sources.

They knew early on that the sex of the suspect was unconfirmed and they knew full well likely a male. Of course they did. And yet they repeated over and over 'female in a dress'.

Yes, yes I know it was in quotes. But they could have immediately qualified it with 'but the sex of suspect is unconfirmed'. They didn't. Why didn't they? I know the answer.

It was deliberate, misleading and irresponsible.

FallenSloppyDead2 · 11/02/2026 21:50

It is worth having a look at Seen in Journalism's coverage of the last 12 hours, on X. They compare and contrast a variety of news channels. BBC could have done better imho. Should definitely have said sex instead of gender

Anactor · 11/02/2026 21:50

HolyGround13 · 11/02/2026 21:19

I mean reporting things which are unsubstantiated, which they were at that time. Trans or not, it would have been wrong to report the sex of the perpetrator based on speculation and unverified sources.

Rubbish. “Social media reports are claiming that the perpetrator may have been born male, but the BBC has not yet been able to verify this.”

The BBC used to report news. That the Canadian authorities are calling a shooter female but social media is reporting them as male is, in a normal world, news. Sex is not actually that difficult to determine; that there was even the slightest disagreement between the authorities and social media was a massive red flag.

And even if the shooter had turned out to be female, it would still have been a story - one about the unreliability of social media, but still an important story.

Responsible reporting is just another way of saying ‘we’re not going to tell you what actually happened, because we don’t like what actually happened.’

Gymnopedie · 11/02/2026 21:57

Carolenarua · 11/02/2026 21:15

Rte's article has been updated.
Mr McDonald said Van Rootselaar, who was born male but began to identify as a female six years ago, had first killed her mother, 39, and 11-year-old step-brother at the family home.
Thankfully!

But still refers to 'her' mother.

CapacityBrown · 11/02/2026 21:57

HolyGround13 · 11/02/2026 21:19

I mean reporting things which are unsubstantiated, which they were at that time. Trans or not, it would have been wrong to report the sex of the perpetrator based on speculation and unverified sources.

What is the point of BBC Verify then?

Igneococcus · 11/02/2026 21:58

Der Spiegel is also using female versions of words as well throughout their article about the shooting like "Schützin" and "Täterin"

Sammidge · 11/02/2026 22:06

What is the significance of his being trans in relation to the crime?

I guess in terms of potential causality but then trans is so confounded with other factors that sorting that out is going to be difficult.

Is there any good data or reviews on the association between violence and kids who have been through the various stages of transition, if you'll forgive my use of the word?

Playingvideogames · 11/02/2026 22:09

Amid questions over how Van Rootselaar was described in alerts, McDonald said police “identified the suspect as they chose to be identified” in public and in social media.
“I can say that Jesse was born as a biological male who, approximately six years ago, began to transition to female and identified as female, both socially and publicly,” he said.

So now how a mass murderer ‘chooses to identify’ takes precedence over giving factual information about their identity to help people avoid being shot.

Says it all really.

EasternStandard · 11/02/2026 22:10

nicepotoftea · 11/02/2026 21:09

Now the sex of the shooter has been revealed, the BBC have no excuse if they refer to him as anything other than male.

No one does, that headline below with woman is terrible.

ThisHappyHiker · 11/02/2026 22:12

Questions being asked at the press conference regarding potential bullying when he started to "transition".

So already the TRA excuses and blaming anyone but the scumbag murderer are starting, absolutely disgusting.

Playingvideogames · 11/02/2026 22:12

Sammidge · 11/02/2026 22:06

What is the significance of his being trans in relation to the crime?

I guess in terms of potential causality but then trans is so confounded with other factors that sorting that out is going to be difficult.

Is there any good data or reviews on the association between violence and kids who have been through the various stages of transition, if you'll forgive my use of the word?

It’s highly relevant.

  1. It proves, yet again, that transwomen follow the same offending patterns as any other male. They’re no less risky
  2. In fact, the opposite appears to be true. They’re over represented in sex offending and
  3. Now there appears to be an overrepresentation in spree killing, which is such a niche crime area that it very rarely happens. So when you have multiple trans spree killers, it would be prudent to investigate why
  4. Finally because we urgently need to find out whether the experimental hormones they’re hopped up on is feeding aggression or homicidal/suicidal tendencies

This is no different to safeguarding when it comes to any form of mental illness.

Playingvideogames · 11/02/2026 22:13

ThisHappyHiker · 11/02/2026 22:12

Questions being asked at the press conference regarding potential bullying when he started to "transition".

So already the TRA excuses and blaming anyone but the scumbag murderer are starting, absolutely disgusting.

He shot and killed 12 and 13 year old boys and girls. How much ‘bullying’ can they do to a 17 year old male who would be much bigger and feel much older than them?

BackToLurk · 11/02/2026 22:15

Weird reporting on BBC News at 10. Canadian reporter referring to the shooter as “her”. Clive Myrie saying “he”.

ThisHappyHiker · 11/02/2026 22:15

Playingvideogames · 11/02/2026 22:13

He shot and killed 12 and 13 year old boys and girls. How much ‘bullying’ can they do to a 17 year old male who would be much bigger and feel much older than them?

He started to "transition" around age 14 and dropped out of school so the question was asked if he dropped out due to bullying. Scraping the barrel of excuses for him in my opinion.

BettyBooper · 11/02/2026 22:16

Playingvideogames · 11/02/2026 22:12

It’s highly relevant.

  1. It proves, yet again, that transwomen follow the same offending patterns as any other male. They’re no less risky
  2. In fact, the opposite appears to be true. They’re over represented in sex offending and
  3. Now there appears to be an overrepresentation in spree killing, which is such a niche crime area that it very rarely happens. So when you have multiple trans spree killers, it would be prudent to investigate why
  4. Finally because we urgently need to find out whether the experimental hormones they’re hopped up on is feeding aggression or homicidal/suicidal tendencies

This is no different to safeguarding when it comes to any form of mental illness.

Yes. And to add, gender identity being considered first rather than treatment of comorbidity mental health issues.

Playingvideogames · 11/02/2026 22:17

ThisHappyHiker · 11/02/2026 22:15

He started to "transition" around age 14 and dropped out of school so the question was asked if he dropped out due to bullying. Scraping the barrel of excuses for him in my opinion.

Ugh, who cares. I was bullied, I didn’t shoot anybody. This is male violence, dressed up as some kind of vulnerability to make the trans aspect more palatable.

Playingvideogames · 11/02/2026 22:17

BackToLurk · 11/02/2026 22:15

Weird reporting on BBC News at 10. Canadian reporter referring to the shooter as “her”. Clive Myrie saying “he”.

Guardian are using ‘she’.

NoFineBalance · 11/02/2026 22:17

BBC News at 10 using male pronouns but saying “he” “transitioned to a female”. No. Born a male and always a male. BBC still have not learned that nobody is buying this shit.

CapacityBrown · 11/02/2026 22:17

Sammidge · 11/02/2026 22:06

What is the significance of his being trans in relation to the crime?

I guess in terms of potential causality but then trans is so confounded with other factors that sorting that out is going to be difficult.

Is there any good data or reviews on the association between violence and kids who have been through the various stages of transition, if you'll forgive my use of the word?

Being trans has changed a lot from 2010 onwards. It's become a lot more politicised with activist groups openly calling for violence. There's now an ideology around it, and it's this that I think is leading to the violence.

FriedGold32 · 11/02/2026 22:18

Who knew that giving angry lonely young men a victimhood category that they can opt into and then telling them constantly that the world hates them and wants them dead would cause any problems?

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