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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Mass Shooting in Tumbler Ridge Canada

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fromorbit · 11/02/2026 07:59

Looks like it was a man in a dress. Another tragedy. More lives lost. Boys with violent tendencies cannot be told they are actually girls. The violent background of trans activism is a problem.

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https://x.com/reduxx/status/2021483339719311435

BREAKING

The identity of the Tumbler Ridge shooter can now be confirmed as Jesse “Jess” Strang.

Strang is a biological male who started to “identify” as a "girl" around 2023.

Strang was raised in a family that valued hunting, and began learning how to shoot rifles when he was just a child. Many guns were kept in the family's residence.

Facebook posts from his mother indicate he may have struggled with behavioral issues, including violent tendencies, from a very young age.

Strang fatally shot 10 people prior to taking his own life.

In 2021, Strang launched a YouTube channel that was promoted by his mother on her Facebook. The channel was dedicated to "hunting, self-reliance, guns" and his other interests. At some point, Strang deleted the content on the channel and changed his handle from "Jesse Boy" to "JessJessUwU." The only remaining post on the channel was made 6 months ago and reads "I've been pretty, um, aimless."

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BREAKING The identity of the Tumbler Ridge shooter can now be confirmed as Jesse “Jess” Strang. Strang is a biological male who started to “identify” as a "girl" around 2023. Strang was raised in a family that valued hunting, and began learning ho...

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AngelinaFibres · 11/02/2026 20:33

Teenage males with easy access to guns. Absolute recipe for disaster

Trans identifying biological males with access to hormones and guns utter, absolute recipe for disaster.

Dawnintheageofaquariams · 11/02/2026 20:35

For once, actually interested in what Trump has to say about this.

AngelinaFibres · 11/02/2026 20:36

MusicWasMyFirstLove · 11/02/2026 20:03

Not during intense grief but later the families of the victims will wants answers.
They will want to know why this young apparently autistic boy was encouraged by people on Reddit to transition to female at the age of 15 (even though that is not possible). That is child abuse and it has led to a lot of violence including the death of his own mother whom he murdered first.

Edited

So he was autistic, trans , hormone filled and had access to and understanding of ,weapons. He was a ticking time bomb.

CapacityBrown · 11/02/2026 20:36

AngelinaFibres · 11/02/2026 20:33

Teenage males with easy access to guns. Absolute recipe for disaster

Trans identifying biological males with access to hormones and guns utter, absolute recipe for disaster.

Teenage males inside yet another ideology based around victimisation, isolation and indoctrination.

AngelinaFibres · 11/02/2026 20:40

CapacityBrown · 11/02/2026 20:36

Teenage males inside yet another ideology based around victimisation, isolation and indoctrination.

Yes, if they're not Incels, they're running around in dresses being angry when people refer to them as the sex they clearly still are ( male). Its massively pathetic what modern manhood is turning into

BeeHive909 · 11/02/2026 20:41

he was a MAN , that monster was not a female and will never have been. Yes he liked wearing dresses but that’s it. His family have failed him and the people he’s killed and injured. He should have gotten therapy years ago . Why did he have a licence too?

MusicWasMyFirstLove · 11/02/2026 20:41

Shortshriftandlethal · 11/02/2026 19:55

Same first name, Jesse, different surname ( Strang)...maybe that is to do with divorced parents ( different surnames)?

Yes - he took his mother's maiden name for his trans persona.

JanBlues2026 · 11/02/2026 20:45

I’m fucking sick of this, I hope the tide is turning

DrBlackbird · 11/02/2026 20:49

RedToothBrush · 11/02/2026 20:32

Why did a 16/17 year old with mental health issues (confirmed by the police) have a sodding gun licence?

It’s been reported that the police removed the guns from the home because of earlier concerns with the boy and threatening violence, but that the gun owner petitioned to have them returned so they were. Doesn’t say who that is but likely one of the parents.

Five children dead. Abhorrent and those poor poor parents. Never in a million years who they have thought this would happen.

RedToothBrush · 11/02/2026 20:49

AngelinaFibres · 11/02/2026 20:36

So he was autistic, trans , hormone filled and had access to and understanding of ,weapons. He was a ticking time bomb.

I've not seen anything that really confirms the autistic bit, but the police have confirmed multiple mental health call outs to his home and it looks very much like he was also a recreational drug user from other sources.

Then he's on certain online forums which seem to have a worrying culture. And no Western government has yet gone "hmm maybe we should be looking at extremist violence in this area because there maybe seems to be some reoccurring themes here"

Let's be straight here we have some fairly high profile UK cases involving significant criminal behaviour to politicians never mind anyone else.

AngelinaFibres · 11/02/2026 20:49

DotAndCarryOne2 · 11/02/2026 18:52

Depends on how far away they were and how the shooter presented doesn’t it ?

Men move like men. Even the butchest of women is clearly biologically female , even from a distance. A camp man is clearly a camp man no matter how far away. Transwomen have male shoulders and a male pelvis. Those things affect how you walk no matter how hard you try. The shooter had just murdered his mother and brother. I doubt his mind was focused on ' walk like a woman ' 'be feminine'.He would have looked exactly what he was ....a man in a dress.

RedToothBrush · 11/02/2026 20:50

DrBlackbird · 11/02/2026 20:49

It’s been reported that the police removed the guns from the home because of earlier concerns with the boy and threatening violence, but that the gun owner petitioned to have them returned so they were. Doesn’t say who that is but likely one of the parents.

Five children dead. Abhorrent and those poor poor parents. Never in a million years who they have thought this would happen.

Mums social media looks like it will shape up to be a media car crash...

Alltheyellowbirds · 11/02/2026 20:53

DuchessofReality · 11/02/2026 20:10

Grrr. R4 news on the hour just played the ‘identified as female’ part and didn’t spell it out that he was male.

Hopefully Canadians will show outrage at the constant ‘she’ use by the police.

I think “identified as female” makes it very clear it’s a male.

Catiette · 11/02/2026 20:53

OK, you know what, I'm adding one more post because, like my first on this thread, this just makes me so, SO angry.

BBC: "the dead include an adult female educator, three female students..."

Are they sure? Did they ask? Did they explicitly ask the devastated families how their relative identified? Did they then cross-reference this in case the families were misgendering those individuals before publishing these updates?

Of course they didn't.

In cases like this, either the media are using female in two entirely different, contradictory ways - or, if gender identity does take precedence, they're respecting that of the killer more than that of his victims, whether by disregarding the latter entirely or by simply assuming it (and if so, how?)

And whatever they're doing, they're obscuring the almost universal sexed dynamic of violent acts like these.

To those who ask above whether the families would care about this at this time, I can't speak for them and nor would I try to. But I can tell you that, if I were in the midst of this, then yes, I'm absolutely certain that it would compound my grief.

In fact, I think that, over time, given space to reflect, it would make me sick with rage. Because it would mean that my relative had been, in her death, reduced to sharing an 'identity" that was, in a very real sense determined by her male killer. That she had been, effectively, described in his image, implicitly secondary to him in the very language used.

Talk about Adam's rib.

Bertiebiscuit · 11/02/2026 20:55

I blooming well knew it - the minute the newsreader on the BBC said "she", it's vanishingly rare for women to behave this way. I just immediately knew it was a bloke in a dress. The BBC is still so mealy mouthed. Horrible male pattern violence.

SwirlyGates · 11/02/2026 21:02

The BBC live reporting article now says, in what looks like a direct quote:

Here's what we learned from deputy commissioner of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police, Dwayne McDonald: The suspect was named as Jesse Van Rootselaar, 18, born a "biological male who approximately six years ago began to transition to female"

We all know YOU CANNOT TRANSITION TO FEMALE. YOU ARE MALE OR YOU ARE FEMALE, YOU CANNOT CHANGE SEX. Someone needs to shout at Mr/Ms/Mx McDonald.

RoyalCorgi · 11/02/2026 21:02

WonderfulSmith · 11/02/2026 20:25

It says front and centre on the BBC that Jesse was born male.

Yes, the BBC seems to be reporting what the deputy commissioner said in a press conference:

'McDonald is asked to expand with more information on the suspect.
He says the 18-year-old suspect was "born as a biological male, who.... approximately six years ago began to transition to female, and identified as female".'

The Guardian in its live blog also reports these words. In a separate story about the effect on the community, it writes:

"The suspected shooter, Jesse Van Rootselaar, 18, was also found dead. Her mother, 39, and an 11-year old sibling believed to be a step-brother were later found dead at a nearby home."

To think that the Guardian was once a respected newspaper.

MusicWasMyFirstLove · 11/02/2026 21:07

Cankerousa · 11/02/2026 08:34

This is the result of giving cross sex hormones and useless 'affirmation' to a turbulent teen who actually needed intensive psychiatric care.

This is what happens when mental illness gets rebranded as a totally normal and even positive thing. It stops being treated.

And then reality (and the predictable rage) hits when he is a fully-grown man with zero hope of ever passing as female. Everyone around him was "kind" but only when "kind" means lying to someone vulnerable.

It's not kind.
It's a form of cowardice.

You can predict the adult height of a new born baby by measuring the length of its foot at birth. I knew my son would be at least six foot tall the day he was born.

nicepotoftea · 11/02/2026 21:09

Now the sex of the shooter has been revealed, the BBC have no excuse if they refer to him as anything other than male.

ScrollingLeaves · 11/02/2026 21:14

Catiette · 11/02/2026 12:12

Thanks. I've read it. :(

It's the theft of the word "female" I just can't accept. I find it telling that there's never been the slightest acknowledgement of the immense concession that giving a subset of males the word "woman" involved (not that women were ever asked). It's acceding to our redefinition - in line with their (somewhat - immeasurably, in some cases - sexist) values and standards. I mean, I know we all know this, but I still find it hard to believe it's happened. And at least the adjective "trans" mitigated this. But then we had the inevitable slippage: transwoman > trans woman > woman > female. So "female"'s unforgivable to me. It leaves us with nothing, and it misrepresents the reality we all live and see, every single day.

In cases like this, it's distorting language to reconstruct reality in line with the murderer's self-perception - and this means implicitly absorbing all his victims, the fearful locals looking out for the wrong person (were older people less au fait with gender identity theory left proportionately more vulnerable because of this?), readers globally and every woman everywhere into his subjective framing of the world, regardless of their own. So after taking his victims' lives, he's given the power to subsume their identities, too - any females among them? well, according to the words used, they were "like him", and shared something fundamental with him. And those readers not au fait with this alternative reality (whole nations, cultures, demographics)? Excluded from fully understanding the truth of what happened - and implicitly posited as deserving of their own lack of understanding, or as irrelevant, even, because they're not OTRSOH: their own values are implicitly secondary to ours - secondary to his. It's unconscionable, and astonishingly Orwellian.

Distorting the word "female" leaves a fundamental part of human experience - half of humanity - undefined and unsayable. It shatters our shared understanding - and social cohesion. We need it!

As long as the Canadian authorities are prepared to misuse it in this way, I kind of agree that the BBC are stuck between a rock and a hard place. I too really resent their use of "gender" in place of "sex" - they're well bloody aware of the difference, and that everything hinges on it... but a more accurate '“That alert described a "female in a dress with brown hair" - but the person's name or gender sex are yet to be publicly released”* *wouldn't have been far from yelling Liar, liar! at the Canadian authorities. I still think there were ways to make it clearer, though, eg. “That alert described a "female in a dress with brown hair" - but there appears to remain some uncertainty surrounding the offender's status and identity.

I do feel kind of bad of theorising like this - my heart goes out to the victims, and speculation about this again detracts from the focus on them... but I think it's so, so important to discuss the implications of prioritising his identity above all else. They're huge. We've really got ourselves into an impossible mess with this. Never mind Orwell, it's the stuff of Swiftian satire.

As long as the Canadian authorities are prepared to misuse it in this way, I kind of agree that the BBC are stuck between a rock and a hard place. I too really resent their use of "gender" in place of "sex" - they're well bloody aware of the difference, and that everything hinges on it... but a more accurate '“That alert described a "female in a dress with brown hair" - but the person's name or gender sex are yet to be publicly released” wouldn't have been far from yelling Liar, liar! at the Canadian authorities.

It was awful writing on the BBC’s part to write the euphemism ‘gender’ instead of ‘sex’ here.

Their sentence was nonsense given the context.

Carolenarua · 11/02/2026 21:15

Dasesist · 11/02/2026 20:16

Irelands top news website.

https://www.rte.ie

Canadian school shooter identified as 18 year old woman.

Rte's article has been updated.
Mr McDonald said Van Rootselaar, who was born male but began to identify as a female six years ago, had first killed her mother, 39, and 11-year-old step-brother at the family home.
Thankfully!

Anactor · 11/02/2026 21:15

HolyGround13 · 11/02/2026 18:27

Yes exactly. The media literacy exhibited here today has been disturbing.

It is a total misunderstanding of what constitutes responsible reporting.

‘Responsible reporting’ - would that be ‘saying what the government wants you to say’?

Carolenarua · 11/02/2026 21:18

DownhillTeaTray · 11/02/2026 20:31

Yes, well, Ireland is similarly captured.

Perhaps cases and reports like this will wake some of them out of their trans trance.

ETA: Mind you, Ireland has always hated women.

Edited

Wow! Rte's article is updated and says male now.
I for one am proud of Ireland, we are addressing a painful past where women were mistreated.

HolyGround13 · 11/02/2026 21:19

Anactor · 11/02/2026 21:15

‘Responsible reporting’ - would that be ‘saying what the government wants you to say’?

I mean reporting things which are unsubstantiated, which they were at that time. Trans or not, it would have been wrong to report the sex of the perpetrator based on speculation and unverified sources.

MarieDeGournay · 11/02/2026 21:22

DownhillTeaTray · 11/02/2026 20:31

Yes, well, Ireland is similarly captured.

Perhaps cases and reports like this will wake some of them out of their trans trance.

ETA: Mind you, Ireland has always hated women.

Edited

From the RTE report:
Mr McDonald said Van Rootselaar, who was born male but began to identify as a female six years ago, had first killed her mother, 39, and 11-year-old step-brother at the family home.

I object very strongly to this demonisation of Ireland and the Irish as if there is and has been no hatred of women anywhere else in the world.

Can you name something anti-women that 'Ireland' did that you can not find anywhere else in the world?

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