Transgender Refugees fleeing the USA

[zanahoria]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/jan/19/i-was-afraid-for-my-life-the-transgender-refugees-fleeing-trumps-america

Most men don't use the women's toilets. But in the smaller instances it happens, it doesn't make them predators. Making appeals to the law isn't a good argument, because laws are often stupid.

Also, if you insist that people use the toilets based on sex, then that would result in trans men using the women's room, despite looking like this. If someone who looks like a man is to use the women's restroom, then that would make it all the more easier for men to go in and claim they are actually biologically female, and you wouldn't be able to know either way.

But it's all pointless, given that it doesn't actually matter.

That is what some people are saying. I've seen them, which is why I took issue with it to begin with. Just as there are people claiming that men wearing dresses is indication of being a predator. A weird thing for 'gender critical' people to accuse.

I responded to a comment that specifically brought up public toilets. I didn't bring it up. Nice projection though.

Bloody good point, well made.

You actually responded to a post which gave a very brief summary of what the article said about why the American was leaving the US, which included what he said about his use of women's toilets.

And you then proceeded to go on and on and on about toilets.

If it's because of their stupid accept cookies or pay us thing, use Brave browser. It blocks it.

Yes, the law is unenforceable in many settings in the practical sense.

However, the law does put a societal expectation and defines the norms of behaviour. So even though, for example, shoplifting is also not being enforced due to lack of police resources, 99.9% of people still refrain from shoplifting because of the mere existence of the law against it.

If shoplifting were not against the law, the rate of offending would be much much higher than it is in the illegal but not really enforced gray area it exists in.

It’s the same with the single sex stuff. Given the ability of plastic surgeons and hormone treatments to transform appearance, those that pass will use the toilets for their gender, and those that do not will not. Women will feel comfortable as they won’t know the difference, as it’s all women and those who can pass for women. If there’s no law, then women will accost even masculine women because the lack of a law generates fear and insecurity.

Everyone has their opinion. I think everyone need to be shown the good ways and be supported as people.

If it "doesn't actually matter", then why in heaven's name can't the men - all of them - just eff off into the men's toilets and leave us in peace?
For god's sake, is it really too much to ask?

All part of the performance that is 'trans'.

Actually they aren't decisions people are free to make.

There are laws which mean certain facilities they should be single sex in the UK.

1. you aren't looking very hard then
2. even there isn't evidence (there is) absence of evidence isn't evidence of absence is a very basic known scientific concept.

Way to show you're not a rape survivor. Any male in a space where women are vulnerable and are specifically designed for females only. makes that space unsafe. Why do you think we have male only and female only toilets then?

Women flee to the ladies to escape a man. We cry. Seek help. We miscarry there. We change out at the sinks to go clubbing. We wash blood-stained underwear at the sink, and baby sick off our blouses. We are in a semi state of dress if not momentarily fully naked. We don't want MALES there, understand!

Mixed sex spaces actually predate sex segregated rooms.

WRONG! Google the 'Urinary Leash'. Before female only toilets, women could not participate in society.

Not for any highly important reason.

Way to show how ignorant and deeply, deeply ill-informed you are. Female only spaces exist to allow females to participate in society. To leave the house. And to have safety, privacy and dignity when we are in a state of undress, miscarrying, changing sanitary products, or fleeing from a man. You ignorance and lack of education on WHY feminism created these spaces is very embarrassing for you.

Any male in a female only intimate single sex space both is unsafe, and makes females feel unsafe. Now you only joined up today and went straight to the feminism section so it's obvious you're simply trolling to cause trouble and to upset women on here and trauma survivors.

given that men and women share nude spaces

No they don't. And even if they did, some being happy with that doesn't make that choice the default. It doesn't mean the choice for female only single sex spaces are taken away for the OVERWHELMING MAJORITY of women and girls who want and need our hard won single sex spaces. The choice of one, does not mean all single sex spaces should therefore not exist. The argument that men commit more sexual crimes is THE argument for single sex spaces. Ask any rape survivor, such as myself.

Then you haven't paid any attention. Also, on change rooms:

Mixed-gender changing rooms becoming a 'magnet' for sexual predators, according to new report | LBC

No male has any good intent being in a space where women flee men and where women are vulnerable and in a state of undress. NONE. He is automatically a PREDATOR. And so, btw, is anyone who defends this behaviour.

This is where you men don't even understand your own sex. It's not about attraction. Some men who hate women literally get off on hurting us, having power over us and making us feel uncomfortable. Some men enter female only spaces out of spite, just to see how uncomfortable they make us.

By calling the police on the men, and have them charged with Indecent Exposure and/or Voyeurism, like we used to.

And if the filthy fucking predator survived the beating he got from neighbourhood men, he never entered the ladies ever again!

No, accusing a MALE of being in an intimate female only space AUTOMATICALLY makes him a predator!

Oh it's been approximately 1.5 days since we've had the photoshop 'what about trans men' test. This has only been addressed 40,000 times on this board over the last 2 years alone! You're not the first, you won't be the last, you're not original. You have no point, and fell flat on your face.

feminine trans women who are attracted to men

Men who are sexually attracted to men are gay men, they're not women and should not be in women's spaces.

Whatever problem men might have with being in men's spaces is for the men to sort out, it's not the function of women to sort out all of men's problems for them. We are not support animals, nor are we a 'safe space' for men. Women don't want men in their spaces, we don't need to explain it nor justify it, us not wanting it is enough.

OK, I'm up at stupid o'clock because of sciatica, what's your excuse Black Cat. 😁