Eva Vlaadingerbroek has been banned from travelling to the UK

[happydappy2]

https://x.com/EvaVlaar/status/2011480716165484637?s=20

I am seriously worried for the future of this country.

I think she probably does but pp are not identifying the correct religion, just going by the few quotes and summary it’s aimed at a different one.

It's aimed at both.

Good riddance! Why do so many on this board seem sympathetic to far right racists? Feminism doesn't need to go hand in glove with racism! X really is a toxic hell hole which is poisoning the minds of so many in this country.

Have you seen a direct quote on that?

Freedom of speech. You don't have to be a leftie to be a feminist

We don't need to know about what your winkie thinks tyvm

Given that Starmer, Cooper and Lammy publicly welcomed el Fattah into the country recently, I just wish they were more consistent

El Fattah is a British citizen. We can all wish he wasn't, but that's done. Of course citizens have more rights than a random prospective visitor. The idea that the two should be treated consistently is absurd.

I don't have a winkie, but my baby does. After years of dashed hopes, heartbreak and misery. I'm 7 months along now and I have my hospital bag ready.

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/pregnancy/5445782-looking-at-prams-and-feeding-equipment-and-broke-down-when-i-got-home

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/pregnancy/5405613-pregnant-with-first-baby

I compliment another woman on her looks (yes, it happens and it's allowed), therefore I must be a man.

So tiresome.

It is. The pp got it wrong assuming you were male.

@YorkshireGoldDrinker congratulations on your precious winkle. A wonderful spring is almost here for him

I thought this might be of interest to the thread, a DM profile of Vlaadingerbroek:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15467567/Dutch-activist-barred-UK-criticising-Keir-Starmer.html

Now I remember her. She spoke at a protest in London last year. She actually spoke very well. I'd no idea who she was that day.

Thanks for that link-I don’t see her as a threat, she should be welcome here

But I do see her as a threat and I don't want her here.

Ultimately, neither of us have access to all of the relevant information or intelligence, so neither of us get to decide. In this case, those who have access to the relevant facts have made a decision that she is a threat. That's how immigration control works.

"What exactly makes her far right?"

Um, the fact that she describes herself as far right? And her views are essentially neo-Nazi.

It's heartening to see the government has banned her from entering the UK.

She describes herself as a "Shieldmaiden of the far right":

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eva_Vlaardingerbroek

I think the case of WMP this week has shown us that those apparently in possession of the intelligence still make flawed decisions.

Without wishing to derail the thread, I should point out that Maccabi Tel Aviv was sanctioned after their next match in Europe by UEFA because their 'fans' did what WMP warned they would do. WMPs documentation was appalling (exaggerating one incident, ignoring many others) but their conclusion wasn't wrong and I'm grateful my Villa supporting DS and friends were kept safe.

"As others have pointed out but you have ignored. Radical Muslims etc have also been banned from entering the UK. As have people with criminal records."

The radicals that haven't at some point been defended by Starmer. Alaa Abd el-Fattah was released from prison in Egypt and then he and his family were brought to the UK. The man is a nutcase and hates white people, but apparently a harmless individual otherwise. He shouldn't be anywhere near the British Isles, but Starmer obviously disagrees.

Totally ignoring the point as so many are. Football fans can be hooligans, we know that.

Just a few weeks later, Aston Villa welcomed the Young Boys known to be violent who indeed kicked off and the match had to be halted. But no Muslim leaders expressed concern about them visiting Birmingham.

I wonder why.

Why do people keep comparing a citizen to a random prospective visitor? Of course governments aren't going to treat the two equally, and it couldn't possibly be otherwise. I can't imagine any of the people arguing that Eva ought to have the same considerations as a British citizen would argue that for a random they disagree with.

She can sneak in on a dinghy as she seems to think that's very easy.

He is a UK citizen so it is different. A better comparison would be to ask if Israel (or any other country) for example, should be obligated to let in Abd El Fattah. He is a non Israeli citizen who has spent a lot of time on Twitter very vehemently criticizing them. Often in very aggressive ways. No, absolutely no way would I be demanding Israel let him in in the interests of free speech. In the same way Eva, not a citizen of this country, has made it very clear she dislikes our values and the way it is run. In particular she seemed very angry about UK plans to try to stop Grok producing sexualised images of children. We have free speech in this country but also enough paedophile apologists not to start importing them from the Netherlands. Someone living in this country who thinks that Grok should be allowed to make as many Pervy images as it wants is gross IMO. But we can't/shouldn't strip them of their citizenship for saying it

I respect her human rights as much as I respect everyone else's. I would defend her rights as a woman the same way I would anyone else's..however, those rights don't automatically extend to being allowed to enter the UK
The Netherlands,.Israel, Egypt, every other country in the world is allowed to restrict who they issue visas to. (In fact America goes much further and in my opinion to far.)

Just to add I have no idea if her stance in support of AI images of non consenting woman and minors is the reason she was asked to apply for a visa with the possibility of it being refused "Banned". Probably it isn't. But it's enough for me to be basically fine with her not coming into the country. People are falling over themselves to defend her rights but she doesn't seem to have much empathy with the rights of young girls being digitally undressed by men. Ho hum.