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Trans woman gym goer caught masturbating in women’s changing room

372 replies

LesbianNana · 10/01/2026 12:39

I’ve included the NY Post article, the original TikTok video and an American police officer YouTuber video (Officer Tatum). This was in California (naturally) at a Planet Fitness gym.

In the beginning of the YouTube video you can see him clearly masturbating (along with his huge gross feet all splayed out), and if you want to avoid YouTube commentary jump to 4:30 for the confrontation.

I’ll transcribe some of the confrontation. It’s a few gym employees, the woman and her boyfriend.

BF: Bro do you go to the Taco Bell restroom and jack off? (Probably.) What the fuck is wrong with you bro? (AGP.)

Woman: Minors walking through here…(Probably the point.)

Trans: You guys, I was IN the stall. (Tip of the hat for not jacking off while at the bench press.)

BF: It does NOT FUCKING MATTER bro.

Trans: I’m not harassing anyone in the stall…I’m allowed to be in here.

Woman: You’re IN THE WOMAN’S BATHROOM.

BF: It doesn’t matter, you’re not allowed to jerk off in here! That is so fucking weird! We have video fucking proof!

Trans: Um are you allowed to video in here? (Attention women: Never video the actions of a man committing a lewd act in public lest it make a man look bad.)

BF: It doesn’t matter, you’re in the women’s bathroom jerking your fucking penis bro!

Trans: I’m transgender! (Here we go! The magic word. All take the knee and beg for forgiveness for your blasphemous ways at the shrine of Transgender!) I was drying off…(HAHAHA.)

Woman: That was you in the shower, too. (Feck’s sake.)

Trans: Right…

At this rate, we’re probably a mere 5 years away from the normalization of public masturbation.

Masturbation Story Hour coming to a library near you! Bring the whole family!

https://nypost.com/2026/01/05/us-news/trans-gymgoer-caught-masturbating-in-womens-bathroom-at-california-planet-fitness/

https://www.tiktok.com/@borderlinebimbo_/video/7591708460211866910

Trans gymgoer caught ‘masturbating’ in women’s bathroom at California Planet Fitness

Disturbing viral video shows the moment a transgender gymgoer appears to be masturbating in a stall inside the women’s bathroom at a Planet Fitness in California.

https://nypost.com/2026/01/05/us-news/trans-gymgoer-caught-masturbating-in-womens-bathroom-at-california-planet-fitness/

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LeftieRightsHoarder · 11/01/2026 15:19

Lucky this didn't happen in Britain, or the woman and her boyfriend who remonstrated with the masturbating man would probably have been arrested. And the offending man might have got compensation for his hurt feelings.

Yes, this is TERF Island, and I'm proud of all the women and allies who make it so. But my god we've got our work cut out against the patriarchy-pleasing establishment and the police who are in it up to their necks.

TheKeatingFive · 11/01/2026 15:20

Kimura · 11/01/2026 13:43

Insisting that men should have the right to access women's single sex spaces, in the full knowledge that this kind of thing is going on and nothing is being done to stop it, is pretty problematic, no?

Broadly, yes. But while I disagree with them having this particular right, I don't like to start from a position of assuming that everyone fighting for it is primarily driven by a disregard for women's rights/safety, or an active desire to trample upon them.

And I certainly don't believe that when something like this happens, the majority of the community simply shrug it off.

But yes, telling a woman who genuinely fears for her safety in that situation that her rights don't matter is problematic.

I appreciate this is not what you support, but many in the TRA community do. It doesn't say anything positive about their consideration for women, does it?

If they're approaching it from a point of selfishness or with bad intentions, no. But again I don't believe it's fair to assume that's the default. I think it's possible that many do consider the impact on women, but come to a different conclusion.

I think it's possible that many do consider the impact on women, but come to a different conclusion.

What conclusion do they come to?

That having men masturbate in spaces that are supposed to be women only is just something women should have to put up with? 🙄

You're not really making the case for the TRAs here, if you don't mind me saying so.

1984Now · 11/01/2026 15:30

LeftieRightsHoarder · 11/01/2026 15:19

Lucky this didn't happen in Britain, or the woman and her boyfriend who remonstrated with the masturbating man would probably have been arrested. And the offending man might have got compensation for his hurt feelings.

Yes, this is TERF Island, and I'm proud of all the women and allies who make it so. But my god we've got our work cut out against the patriarchy-pleasing establishment and the police who are in it up to their necks.

The police are mucky pups.
Can't deal with the violent misogynists and serial offenders in their ranks (check the latest Met scandal) and won't deal with misogynists in public.
If only Phillipson would shift her arse with that advice.

Helleofabore · 11/01/2026 15:35

"Broadly, yes. But while I disagree with them having this particular right, I don't like to start from a position of assuming that everyone fighting for it is primarily driven by a disregard for women's rights/safety, or an active desire to trample upon them."

You might not "like to start from a position of assuming that everyone fighting for it is primarily driven by a disregard for women's rights/safety, or an active desire to trample upon them", however, how else do you describe the motivation to prioritise a group of male people's demands over female people's needs after female people have spent years and great effort describing their needs and why they need those male people to be fully and lawfully excluded?

What other motivation is there?

To protect the male people? Sure... by ignoring the needs of the female people that require that this group of male people are not prioritised above those of female people and if needed, after evidence provided that it is needed, alternative solutions are found. Is that what happens when people state that some male people should be allowed access to female single sex provisions?

No.

So, if the outcome is that women's rights or safety has been disregarded, even unintentionally because of the demands of a group of male people and those supporting that outcome know of women's concerns, then they really are effectively driven on that disregard because they have not acknowledged women's rights / safety in any way, have they?

Is the motivation primarily to ensure that a group's philosophical belief that is in no way reflective of material reality is fully supported by society? I consider the same logic applies that if someone does this by dismissing women's and girl's concerns without acknowledging them and acting to support those women and girls, how can it not be said that their primary position is driven by 'disregard'?

If to support male people's demands requires the disregard of female people's needs, how the fuck can someone twist the logic to dismiss this disregard as not being internal to their primary action? To achieve their objective actively requires the complete disregard for women's rights/safety, or an active desire to trample upon them.

LeftieRightsHoarder · 11/01/2026 15:39

While I disagree with [men having the right to access women's single-sex spaces], I don't like to start from a position of assuming that everyone fighting for it is primarily driven by a disregard for women's rights/safety, or an active desire to trample upon them.

I can accept that some transactivists may not start from an active desire to trample on women's rights, as their primary urge is for their own sexual pleasure. The harm to women would be a secondary goal or just unimportant collateral damage. Of course the trampling on women's boundaries would also be a source of sexual pleasure to many.

But there's no way you can seriously disagree that everyone fighting for it is driven by a disregard for women's rights/safety. No adult grew up in a society where all men had the right of access to all women (and children) at all times and places -- which is what transactivists are working towards.

Twenty years ago this was unheard of in any civilised society. Women's right to privacy was unquestioned. Obviously that didn't stop men assaulting women and breaking their boundaries, but that was recognised an an offence. So adult transactivists know what they are doing.

Kimura · 11/01/2026 15:50

AnSolas · 11/01/2026 14:58

Broadly, yes. But while I disagree with them having this particular right, I don't like to start from a position of assuming that everyone fighting for it is primarily driven by a disregard for women's rights/safety, or an active desire to trample upon them.

What exactly do you think these individuals are fighting for?

Their fighting objective is to have males in what should be female only spaces.

When the aim of their activism is to force women into mixed sex spaces how exactly is this not disregarding womens rights to their single sex spaces?

How is it not disregarding womens safety?

Please lay out the logic of what the you think would happen when they sucessfully create the situation of a male being allowed by management and/or by law to enter what should be a female only space?

is primarily driven by a disregard for women's rights/safety, or an active desire to trample upon them.

Because this ^ statement is reading as they dont actually need to recognise half the human race being worth recognising at all.

If they're approaching it from a point of selfishness or with bad intentions, no. But again I don't believe it's fair to assume that's the default. I think it's possible that many do consider the impact on women, but come to a different conclusion.

Can you outline what different conclusion is reached when their default option is known to be harmful to women?

When the aim of their activism is to force women into mixed sex spaces how exactly is this not disregarding womens rights to their single sex spaces?

I perhaps didn't explain myself very well. While the outcome may be the same (mixed sex space) I think that their perspective of it is that they're fighting for their own rights to be recognized, not to take a right away from women.

How is it not disregarding womens safety?

I expect most trans people honestly believe that most other trans people are not a danger to women, rather than not considering women's safety as important.

I want to be clear that I don't share those views.

PriOn1 · 11/01/2026 15:55

LeftieRightsHoarder · 11/01/2026 15:19

Lucky this didn't happen in Britain, or the woman and her boyfriend who remonstrated with the masturbating man would probably have been arrested. And the offending man might have got compensation for his hurt feelings.

Yes, this is TERF Island, and I'm proud of all the women and allies who make it so. But my god we've got our work cut out against the patriarchy-pleasing establishment and the police who are in it up to their necks.

I was thinking about this, following on from the suggestion that filming men in toilets is more problematic than men being there.

We have proof from the Peggie case that, when there is no recording of who said what, some judges will believe a man over a woman, even when he has shown himself to be a liar under oath.

I’ve had a completely unrelated case affect me, where a man and I both put forward our version of events, and even though I could prove he had lied about part of his evidence, the lawyers still chose to believe his account over mine.

I understand it’s a common phenomenon.

So any woman who takes on the risk of challenging a man in a women’s space should be strongly advised to film it as she will need all the evidence she can get if he accuses her later of a transphobic hate crime or incident.

Anyone suggesting women filming in those circumstances are the problem is either extremely naive or supports predatory men.

TheKeatingFive · 11/01/2026 15:55

Kimura · 11/01/2026 15:50

When the aim of their activism is to force women into mixed sex spaces how exactly is this not disregarding womens rights to their single sex spaces?

I perhaps didn't explain myself very well. While the outcome may be the same (mixed sex space) I think that their perspective of it is that they're fighting for their own rights to be recognized, not to take a right away from women.

How is it not disregarding womens safety?

I expect most trans people honestly believe that most other trans people are not a danger to women, rather than not considering women's safety as important.

I want to be clear that I don't share those views.

I perhaps didn't explain myself very well. While the outcome may be the same (mixed sex space) I think that theirperspective of it is that they're fighting for their own rights to be recognized, not to take a right away from women.

And once it is evident that they ARE taking rights from women, it would be shitty behaviour to continue that course, don't you think?

I expect most trans people honestly believe that most other trans people are not a danger to women, rather than not considering women's safety as important.

And once there is evidence that they ARE a danger to women, it would be shitty behaviour to continue that course, don't you think?

Women have been raising the alarm about this for years. Why are the TRAs determined not to listen to them? And/or disregard what they say?

Helleofabore · 11/01/2026 15:56

LeftieRightsHoarder · 11/01/2026 15:39

While I disagree with [men having the right to access women's single-sex spaces], I don't like to start from a position of assuming that everyone fighting for it is primarily driven by a disregard for women's rights/safety, or an active desire to trample upon them.

I can accept that some transactivists may not start from an active desire to trample on women's rights, as their primary urge is for their own sexual pleasure. The harm to women would be a secondary goal or just unimportant collateral damage. Of course the trampling on women's boundaries would also be a source of sexual pleasure to many.

But there's no way you can seriously disagree that everyone fighting for it is driven by a disregard for women's rights/safety. No adult grew up in a society where all men had the right of access to all women (and children) at all times and places -- which is what transactivists are working towards.

Twenty years ago this was unheard of in any civilised society. Women's right to privacy was unquestioned. Obviously that didn't stop men assaulting women and breaking their boundaries, but that was recognised an an offence. So adult transactivists know what they are doing.

I agree Leftie.

It can be said that their motivation may not be to disregard women's rights / safety. But it is illogical to say that it is not driven by a disregard of women's rights or safety or an active desire to trample upon them. Because the only way to centre those male people's demands, whatever they are, is to disregard women's rights or safety or an active desire to trample upon them.

And if someone did this unthinkingly and it was pointed out that they were doing this, if they did not then actively consider what female people need in their campaign, they then disregard women's rights or safety and they actively trample upon them.

It may come from any motivation at all, but the end result is only achieved by this disregard.

Helleofabore · 11/01/2026 15:58

"I expect most trans people honestly believe that most other trans people are not a danger to women, rather than not considering women's safety as important."

You now seem to be speaking on behalf of the majority of people with transgender identities, as an authority, to prove your point. Are you doing so from a position of having evidence, or are you doing so because you want to believe this point?

Either way, does it even fucking matter?

Distracting from the end result by creating excuses as to why some people do this is quite pointless when you consider the outcome.

Kimura · 11/01/2026 16:05

TheKeatingFive · 11/01/2026 15:20

I think it's possible that many do consider the impact on women, but come to a different conclusion.

What conclusion do they come to?

That having men masturbate in spaces that are supposed to be women only is just something women should have to put up with? 🙄

You're not really making the case for the TRAs here, if you don't mind me saying so.

What conclusion do they come to?

That having men masturbate in spaces that are supposed to be women only is just something women should have to put up with? 🙄

Don't be silly - I'm talking about wanting the right to access women's spaces. I expect most of them conclude that as they personally have no bad intentions towards women, nor do the majority of their community, so the impact in that regard is minimal.

Of course that's not their call to make, but I think it's far more likely than them simply not considered or caring about the impact on women in the majority.

You're not really making the case for the TRAs here, if you don't mind me saying so.

I'm not trying to - I just don't like this default position so many seem to take where every aspect of trans life is a calculated attack on women. It's absurd.

TheKeatingFive · 11/01/2026 16:10

Kimura · 11/01/2026 16:05

What conclusion do they come to?

That having men masturbate in spaces that are supposed to be women only is just something women should have to put up with? 🙄

Don't be silly - I'm talking about wanting the right to access women's spaces. I expect most of them conclude that as they personally have no bad intentions towards women, nor do the majority of their community, so the impact in that regard is minimal.

Of course that's not their call to make, but I think it's far more likely than them simply not considered or caring about the impact on women in the majority.

You're not really making the case for the TRAs here, if you don't mind me saying so.

I'm not trying to - I just don't like this default position so many seem to take where every aspect of trans life is a calculated attack on women. It's absurd.

No one is saying it's a calculated attack on women.

They are saying it is an attack on women, whether that's passive, unconsidered, viewed as acceptable collateral damage.

None of that is acceptable either. It is obvious now the harms being caused to women. Women have been speaking up for years.

Not engaging, not listening, not responding to women's concerns is demonstrating their total indifference to women's needs, isn't that obvious?

Helleofabore · 11/01/2026 16:16

"Not engaging, not listening, not responding to women's concerns is demonstrating their total indifference to women's needs, isn't that obvious?"

Yes. It is to anyone who is not trying to moderate the language used by women describing this exact impact. This includes people who need to have the situation described with language that they themselves can be comfortable. In the end, they end up not being able to accurately articulate their points of view. We see this quite often on these threads. I feel it is the same with those who declare 'there must be a way that you all have never discussed / discovered' and 'you are all so disrespectful that you insist on using accurate language to describe the most vulnerable and marginalised group in the world' .

MyCrushWithEyeliner · 11/01/2026 16:17

I’m so sick of perverted, entitled, selfish MEN 🤢

TheKeatingFive · 11/01/2026 16:18

MyCrushWithEyeliner · 11/01/2026 16:17

I’m so sick of perverted, entitled, selfish MEN 🤢

Yup. And those enabling them.

Helleofabore · 11/01/2026 16:21

Just a reminder that women accurately describing the behaviour patterns of some men and the negative impact on female people makes those men look bad.

Those women accurately describing the behaviour patterns of some men and the negative impact on female people should be vilified and demonised, or at the very least, told that they are mean and unkind and should change the way they speak about those patterns of behaviour and the men who act in this way.

Kimura · 11/01/2026 16:24

Is there one person on this thread declaring that ALL male people with transgender identities are like that?

There have been multiple instances on this thread where people have, for example, blamed situations like the one which prompted this thread on the response of the 'entire trans community' to previous incidents. Someone said they were happy to demonize all trans people.

My posts (which are getting lost in replies to multiple people) were in response to statements like that.

FlirtsWithRhinos · 11/01/2026 16:30

Kimura · 11/01/2026 15:50

When the aim of their activism is to force women into mixed sex spaces how exactly is this not disregarding womens rights to their single sex spaces?

I perhaps didn't explain myself very well. While the outcome may be the same (mixed sex space) I think that their perspective of it is that they're fighting for their own rights to be recognized, not to take a right away from women.

How is it not disregarding womens safety?

I expect most trans people honestly believe that most other trans people are not a danger to women, rather than not considering women's safety as important.

I want to be clear that I don't share those views.

Regardless of the primary/conscious reason, to believe one is justified in pushing for trans women and only trans women, only those men who claim to believe they are women, to be included in women's single sex protections, language, rights and opportunities, one must believe:

  • That these men are objectively more deserving of women's resources than other equally vulnerable or harmless men becauae these men, and only these men, share some mental or visual quality that is meaningfully "womanny". And you can only believe that if you believe that some ways of thinking or presenting are inherently and exclusively womanny in the first place. And you can only believe that if your mental idea of women is not simply the female half of the species in whatever way we happen to think or present, but some sexist and reductive idea of womanhood as a way of thinking, acting or dressing.

  • That the reasons women may want and need single protections, opportunities or even language that refers unequivocably to female people only are less importaht than whatever male emotional need it is that the trans "woman" identity meets.

FlirtsWithRhinos · 11/01/2026 16:31

Kimura · 11/01/2026 16:24

Is there one person on this thread declaring that ALL male people with transgender identities are like that?

There have been multiple instances on this thread where people have, for example, blamed situations like the one which prompted this thread on the response of the 'entire trans community' to previous incidents. Someone said they were happy to demonize all trans people.

My posts (which are getting lost in replies to multiple people) were in response to statements like that.

It is ok to reject sexism you know, even if the sexist people are quite nice in other ways.

Seethlaw · 11/01/2026 16:38

Kimura · 11/01/2026 16:24

Is there one person on this thread declaring that ALL male people with transgender identities are like that?

There have been multiple instances on this thread where people have, for example, blamed situations like the one which prompted this thread on the response of the 'entire trans community' to previous incidents. Someone said they were happy to demonize all trans people.

My posts (which are getting lost in replies to multiple people) were in response to statements like that.

But the fact is that "the entire trans community" is actively refusing to discuss women's needs and rights.

It used to be that they didn't even think of this issue. But now it has been brought to the forefront. Women have made it clear that this is what they are fighting for. And still, "the entire trans community" is refusing to engage with that issue.

This is very much actively trampling women's rights. The time is long passed in the UK when the trans community didn't know any better. Now they do, and they continually make their choice clear: to disregard women's needs and rights.

potpourree · 11/01/2026 16:54

I expect most trans people honestly believe that most other trans people are not a danger to women, rather than not considering women's safety as important.

That might actually be true depending on the numbers of female and male trans people. Nearly all female trans people are not a danger to women.

This is why no-one is asking for trans people not to come into female spaces, but male people.

This constant, deliberate dishonesty over what GC feminists are asking for has resulted in irrelevant arguments and irrelevant conclusions. That do not in anyway have women's safety as a priority.

ThatZanyFatball · 11/01/2026 17:09

ShowMeTheSea · 10/01/2026 17:01

I'm not demonising an entire minority on the actions of a few.

When an entire minority selfishly and indifferently open the door and enable dangerous actions of a few, they deserve to be demonized.

eatfigs · 11/01/2026 17:11

Kimura · 11/01/2026 16:24

Is there one person on this thread declaring that ALL male people with transgender identities are like that?

There have been multiple instances on this thread where people have, for example, blamed situations like the one which prompted this thread on the response of the 'entire trans community' to previous incidents. Someone said they were happy to demonize all trans people.

My posts (which are getting lost in replies to multiple people) were in response to statements like that.

We can blame the activists - who are broadly supported by the trans community as a whole - for pushing policy that enables disgusting men like this to pleasure themselves in women's spaces with impunity.

Seethlaw · 11/01/2026 17:16

Kimura · 11/01/2026 15:50

When the aim of their activism is to force women into mixed sex spaces how exactly is this not disregarding womens rights to their single sex spaces?

I perhaps didn't explain myself very well. While the outcome may be the same (mixed sex space) I think that their perspective of it is that they're fighting for their own rights to be recognized, not to take a right away from women.

How is it not disregarding womens safety?

I expect most trans people honestly believe that most other trans people are not a danger to women, rather than not considering women's safety as important.

I want to be clear that I don't share those views.

I expect most trans people honestly believe that most other trans people are not a danger to women,

I wouldn't be so sure. I'll just say that the relationships between transmen and transwomen in the community can get really nasty. Don't mistake silence for support...

Coatsoff42 · 11/01/2026 17:18

Seethlaw · 11/01/2026 16:38

But the fact is that "the entire trans community" is actively refusing to discuss women's needs and rights.

It used to be that they didn't even think of this issue. But now it has been brought to the forefront. Women have made it clear that this is what they are fighting for. And still, "the entire trans community" is refusing to engage with that issue.

This is very much actively trampling women's rights. The time is long passed in the UK when the trans community didn't know any better. Now they do, and they continually make their choice clear: to disregard women's needs and rights.

Oh there’s only discussion of if they can use the ladies toilets, how often they get comments positive or negative. There’s absolutely no discussion of how it is using men’s toilets, if they get comments there.

There’s very little discussion of third spaces, or how to minimise harm to women, or should they even be in there.