I want to be clear that I don't share those views.
As I said its about the logic
How did they see women.
And by they I dont (just) mean "transpeople" rather TRA and TRA supporters.
Do you see them as fully formed competent adults who can take multiple factors into account when forming opinions and making choices?
I perhaps didn't explain myself very well. While the outcome may be the same (mixed sex space) I think that their perspective of it is that they're fighting for their own rights to be recognized, not to take a right away from women.
What is the rights the male people are aiming to obtain?
Is it to be included in the group called women or or to be added to a different group or to create their own new group?
Is the aim to be given access to womens spaces or for new extra spaces to be provided?
Take the solgan "stunning and brave"
What is stunning ie shocking about a male deciding he is removing himself from the men group and moving into the womens group.
Why is that choice classed as brave?
Other than using trans = gay what is the social dynamics of the slogan?
What extra rights do that sub-group of male people need?
I expect most trans people honestly believe that most other trans people are not a danger to women, rather than not considering women's safety as important.
Lets reword that statement?
I expect most trans people males¹ honestly believe that most other trans people only some males are not a danger to women, rather than not considering women's safety as important.
( ¹ it is males women teach young girls (and boys) that some males can be very dangerous and girls learn the same lessons as they grow)
So activism and honest belief...
Lets take the law in Scotland for the provision of specialist SA medics. TRA wanted to have the term sex removed and replaced with the word gender.
So if a woman requested woman or in TRA world a same gender medic, a male medic who called himself a woman could turn up in a in exam room and carry out a physical exam to provide evidence for a criminal trial. He would then go into court and explain how he put his body parts and objects on and in the woman.
What is that TRA objective saying about the character and ethics/morals any and all male (or female) individuals who would seek employment in that service and carry out such an action?
For the activists who wanted to replace the word sex with gender to create a world where that action was possible, are they individually a danger to women or are they focusing on the safety of women?
What did that activism say about their morals, their understnding of the social contract and the world they want to create?
FYI the male Canadian activist who claimed to be a woman and now a female still campaigning (25+ years) to defund any rape crisis service which provided female only services rolled out his avid support for the Wax-my-ladiee-balls case while having no shame in claiming that TIM are more likely than the general male population to be pervered and therefore more of a risk to women. And he is not the only TRA to hold that belief eg "Rapist Gender".
So the honest belief is based on what exactly?
What moves a sub-group of males into a more safe than other males group?
Am I to believe that the individuals making the assessment of likely outcomes are somehow less able than you or I to work out the issues which result in harm to women and womens rights?