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Glinner Bullseye comment on X

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Thatcatsaflippingnightmare · 09/01/2026 20:41

Always trying to explain Glinner to DH, today he showed me on X JD Vance defending murder of the woman by ICE. Glinner had replied something like 'bullseye', as in agreement. I tried to comprehend with "satire?" but he said no he's on Liz truss show these days. I said well he's always been about protecting women and children, he's not suddenly supporting femicide, but the post convinced DH otherwise. Any insights? I'm not on social media

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selffellatingouroborosofhate · 10/01/2026 18:27

nameychangey99 · 10/01/2026 18:00

My DS1 married an American and went to live in the US. The first thing his new FIL told him, to help him settle in to his new life, was 'If law enforcement pull you over: 1. turn off the engine 2. put your hands on the steering wheel where they can see them'.

He knew DS1 was at a dangerous disadvantage by not having been born into the US gun culture.

This event is a tragedy for everyone involved.

Ex-BIL warned me of that too, and that was just for a two week holiday in Florida.

catmothertes1 · 10/01/2026 18:30

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 09/01/2026 23:39

I never thought I'd find myself agreeing whole-heartedly with Brendan O'Neill.

Disappointed with Glinner and anyone else rushing to judgement about who is right or wrong here. There will be an inquest and the truth will out then.

I feel sorry for the three children who have lost their mum.

Are you sure there's going to be an inquest? I'm not so sure.

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 10/01/2026 18:33

catmothertes1 · 10/01/2026 18:30

Are you sure there's going to be an inquest? I'm not so sure.

Fair point. And also, we still can't really judge without one.

UtopiaPlanitia · 10/01/2026 18:38

catmothertes1 · 10/01/2026 18:30

Are you sure there's going to be an inquest? I'm not so sure.

There’s usually an investigation after officer-involved shootings so that will uncover some information.

But I would hope that the woman’s family will be able to push for an inquest. Americans have a lot more codified rights as citizens, with regards to their relationship with the state, than people in a lot of other countries, so I’m hoping this will allow this to be investigated properly.

People wanting to make political capital out of this, on both sides, may muddy the water somewhat though which would be very unhelpful in uncovering the truth but seems inevitable given the state of politics these days.

VimesandhisCardboardBoots · 10/01/2026 18:41

nameychangey99 · 10/01/2026 18:19

Plus, while I know the hands on the wheel advice is standard, presumably that doesn't apply anymore. Since having your hands on the wheel can also be a threat of violence.

That's why #1 is Turn the Engine off

Which also doesn't work any more because loads of people now have electric cars, so how can someone outside the car tell when the engine is off.

Not that it matters. This dickhead wanted to kill someone. Shed have been dead no matter what she did.

RhannionKPSS · 10/01/2026 18:52

Over a million dollars raised on Go Fund Me , hopefully the children will get that money in trust and it won’t go the irresponsible & cocky partner to waste on lawyers fees

comeondover · 10/01/2026 19:07

@LostittoBostik would you mind linking to some info about the dark money wrt this topic please?

thatsthewayitis · 10/01/2026 19:12

I'll post this again as I'm American and was a lawyer. ICE are Federal law enforcement officers. It's a federal crime to interfere with them. You will be arrested. ICE has posted this on x.
R. Good was following ICE officers all day and then boxed them in with her car. She deliberately put herself in this situation.The Minnesota police refuse to help ICE officers when in danger.

When an officer tells you to get out of your car, you obey. They can break into the car and arrest you for failing to do so. If you disobey and drive your car forward into the officer , that's vehicular homicide and you shoot to kill.
And no you don't let the person drive away, they're wanted for attempted murder and may potentially kill someone else

nameychangey99 · 10/01/2026 19:25

VimesandhisCardboardBoots · 10/01/2026 18:41

Which also doesn't work any more because loads of people now have electric cars, so how can someone outside the car tell when the engine is off.

Not that it matters. This dickhead wanted to kill someone. Shed have been dead no matter what she did.

Your first point is good, and it may be that the US will have to address this.

5128gap · 10/01/2026 19:29

nicepotoftea · 10/01/2026 10:14

I think 'Gender Critical' has a specific meaning - people who criticise societal expectations of how a man or woman should behave, whether that it is by imposing gender identity or insisting that pink toys are for girls.

However I agree that it is used far too widely, and a woman who doesn't want to share a hospital ward with a man is not expressing a view on gender. She just doesn't want to share a hospital ward with a man.

I think that depends. If the woman is saying I don't want to share a ward with a man, even if he says he's a woman, and has taken steps to appear a woman and behaves in a stereotypically female way, I don't want to share a ward with him because he's a man; then she is expressing a view on gender. The view that its not something of importance when it comes to women's space, because it doesn't override sex.
She may not have got there via the GC pathway of believing that personality traits, preferences and life choices are not tied to sex (she may believe they are, that girls naturally prefer dolls and boys should climb trees) but she will know that liking dolls isn't the thing that makes her daughter a girl and that her son would still be a boy if he liked dolls too.
I think this is a strong statement about gender, as it combines a belief that it exists and the stereotypes are 'real', with the belief sex matters more and can't be changed. I think a lot of people are in this camp. Most men who reject TI while hanging onto sexism are.

nicepotoftea · 10/01/2026 19:41

@5128gap I mean a philosophical view on gender

I don’t think most people are aware of a distinction between sex and gender.

Seagull72 · 10/01/2026 20:11

Same.

WowFantastic · 10/01/2026 20:35

UtopiaPlanitia · 10/01/2026 17:15

In situations like this when you or your car is surrounded by armed men, and they feel you aren’t co-operating, you’ll be asked for your driving license/ID, they’ll run your numberplate through databases, they’ll ask you questions about who you are, where you’re going, what you’re doing. They’ll want you to get out of the vehicle to search it and search you. It’s effectively an ad hoc checkpoint. And it’s very intimidating and unpleasant.

Yes, it was certainly unpleasant. They shot her in the face three times for trying to slowly leave. It was not a checkpoint.

RhannionKPSS · 10/01/2026 20:37

Maybe, just maybe she should have done what she was requested to do. She was cocky, as was her partner. I’m sad for her children, but she was clearly not very good at making decisions when faced with someone with a gun.

Incredible66 · 10/01/2026 20:47

You people will do anything except look at yourselves, won't you? NOW Glinner disappoints you?!

TheBeaTgoeson1 · 10/01/2026 20:48

@thatsthewayitisThanks for the laugh.

Incredible66 · 10/01/2026 21:08

This is a dismal bootlicking take from someone who clearly hasn't watched any visuals evidence of what happened. Are you not ashamed to live in the world and say things like this from such a place of ignorance?

IwantToRetire · 10/01/2026 22:01

I have to say I cant believe that so many allowed or even wanted to be part of hijacking this thread by engaging with someone who clearly is not committed to FWR.

From the moment the comment was posted about dark money and all that other crap, why respond. They aren't going to listen. Each time posters like this turn up, feeding their ego only meanst they keep coming back.

Something like 10 pages of bat shittery.

stomachamelon · 10/01/2026 22:05

TheBeaTgoeson1 · 10/01/2026 20:48

@thatsthewayitisThanks for the laugh.

I actually think that’s quite a patronising thing to say and comes from a place of privilege. Are you American? If you are I will apologise but it appears what they are saying is factual and a reality. Shocking as it is the government is not always on our side and doesn’t always obey the law (as they see it)

From what I have read about the ICE officer he was in the job over twenty years and had within the past year been plowed down before. I expect the inquest will show a sad combination of human failure on both sides.

No one should be applauding or mocking as no one wins this.

stomachamelon · 10/01/2026 22:06

@IwantToRetirei agree. Nothing in this thread is in good faith.

MorrisZapp · 10/01/2026 22:21

If you're Scottish you might know of an account called Wings, he was a huge part of social media during the independence referendum, then latterly became very gender critical. His long essays are superbly referenced and argued.

He's been drifting towards 'the kind of people who irritate me really loathe Trump, so I think I'll start quite liking Trump' for a while. His comments yesterday however were so shocking I was convinced he'd been hacked.

I was dumbfounded at his remarks when the 'fucking bitch' comment came out. He said that's what I'd say if some cunt tried to run me over.

For my troubles, he blocked me. I gave up on KjK a while back, and I unfollowed a whole load of GCs who had turned to outraged defence of Israel.

It's a funny old world. I don't expect to agree with anyone about everything, but it gets to a point it's embarrassing to be associated with them in any way at all.

Gutted about Glinner but I've probably overlooked shit in the past if I'm honest.

IwantToRetire · 10/01/2026 22:22

To get back to the topic.

Yes, it does seem, like KJK has drifted or decided to go right, that Glinner, after his experience in the UK both public and private, has just lost faith, or sucked into a strand of US politics.

But it is possible to make a note of this, as with KJK, of this turn of events.

Which doesn't mean that the work that either of them have done in high lighting the harm to women by TRAs hasn't been positive.

As to the incident itself, as most of us being UK based have not had experience of living in a country where "officials" have guns, I really dont think any of us should make bold statements about how to behave.

But worse still, is to try and negate the experience relayed in posts from those of us on FWR who have lived with that.

And not only that, even though they are fewer, just how many examples are there in the UK where armed police have been sent out and what seems like 9 times out of 10, when they do end up shooting someone, investigations then reveal there was a misunderstanding or misinterpretation of the movement(s) of the person being confronted.

Added to which, as others have said, if I say a man with a gun I would comply because I have absolutely no faith in the male brain, hyped up with power, doing the right thing.

How can any of us as women, not have this thought in their head?

Surely anyone who has gone of a demo, thinking it will be peaceful know that things can spiral out of control.

And without victim blaming, but given the circumstances of hostile (and that is what Trump intends by putting them there) ICE agents who will have been groomed (sorry "trained") to see protestors as the enemy, would you as co-mothers of a 6 year old put yourself forward to confront ICE.

I totally support people's right to demonstrate, but - and this probably or usually makes women more than men hesitate - would you take the risk of violence (from ICE) and go on a demonstration with the knowledge that you might never go home and your child/ren become orphan/s.

I am asking this, not to place any blame on Renee Nicole Good (or her wife), but given that many on FWR say how they wouldn't risk being publicly GC at work for fear of getting the sack, would you go on a demo confronting armed representatives of the state?

Just to be clear, and to repeat myself. He should NOT have shot her.

He should not have been on duty as it appears it was known he still had PTSD.

But this is the world we live in today, magnified in MAGA America.

And in fact whether a mother or not, would you go on a demo where there is a high likelihood of violence?

BrickBiscuit · 10/01/2026 22:24

HopeSpringsEternally · 10/01/2026 16:30

I'm not on X so can't read what he wrote about this incident.
If you are accusing him of something, you should include a quote from him so we can see what you are referring to at the very least.

Edited

First post in the thread tells you how. The link provided worked for me just now.

persephonia · 10/01/2026 22:41

IwantToRetire · 10/01/2026 22:22

To get back to the topic.

Yes, it does seem, like KJK has drifted or decided to go right, that Glinner, after his experience in the UK both public and private, has just lost faith, or sucked into a strand of US politics.

But it is possible to make a note of this, as with KJK, of this turn of events.

Which doesn't mean that the work that either of them have done in high lighting the harm to women by TRAs hasn't been positive.

As to the incident itself, as most of us being UK based have not had experience of living in a country where "officials" have guns, I really dont think any of us should make bold statements about how to behave.

But worse still, is to try and negate the experience relayed in posts from those of us on FWR who have lived with that.

And not only that, even though they are fewer, just how many examples are there in the UK where armed police have been sent out and what seems like 9 times out of 10, when they do end up shooting someone, investigations then reveal there was a misunderstanding or misinterpretation of the movement(s) of the person being confronted.

Added to which, as others have said, if I say a man with a gun I would comply because I have absolutely no faith in the male brain, hyped up with power, doing the right thing.

How can any of us as women, not have this thought in their head?

Surely anyone who has gone of a demo, thinking it will be peaceful know that things can spiral out of control.

And without victim blaming, but given the circumstances of hostile (and that is what Trump intends by putting them there) ICE agents who will have been groomed (sorry "trained") to see protestors as the enemy, would you as co-mothers of a 6 year old put yourself forward to confront ICE.

I totally support people's right to demonstrate, but - and this probably or usually makes women more than men hesitate - would you take the risk of violence (from ICE) and go on a demonstration with the knowledge that you might never go home and your child/ren become orphan/s.

I am asking this, not to place any blame on Renee Nicole Good (or her wife), but given that many on FWR say how they wouldn't risk being publicly GC at work for fear of getting the sack, would you go on a demo confronting armed representatives of the state?

Just to be clear, and to repeat myself. He should NOT have shot her.

He should not have been on duty as it appears it was known he still had PTSD.

But this is the world we live in today, magnified in MAGA America.

And in fact whether a mother or not, would you go on a demo where there is a high likelihood of violence?

As a mother I wouldn't go to a demo where there was a high risk of violence. I am however a coward and fully own that. The problem is, if ICE are always armed and apparently ready to shoot then any confrontation with/protest against them carries the risk of violence. Actually that applies to all protests
If I was travelling in Morocco and there was a protest for civil liberties there I would be kind of dumb to insert myself and if anything happened it would be reasonable for the UK government to issue a travel advice on the lines of avoiding protests against the government. But if the narrative is that as an American citizen you are responsible for putting yourself in harms way if you are shot while exercising your civil liberties then they are effectively saying that Americans don't have civil liberties anymore. The argument about whether she was just passing through and got caught up by accident or whether she was there because she wanted to confront ICE is a moot point because being politically active, protesting is not a reason to be shot.
Tragedies do happen, and rogue police officers/ICE agents also happen but the response from the US government along the lines of "she had it coming" is actually much more concerning than if it was just an agent with PTSD or aggression issues. Though her death would still be a tragedy.
That Glinner and others can't see this is particularly worrying given that when he was cancelled/threatened (not shot) there were people who condemned this and received a backlash against themselves for doing so. It's troubling that a man can't emphasize with a woman even after women supported him. So it goes.

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